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How about a (digital) Photography forum?

neut said:
Hey, that's Mike's fault ... not mine. :p

:D

I don't spend enough time in the Design/Web/DV forums as i should (i think the Pic. Assoc. thread was taking too much of my time), so i haven't seen the intrusion, but i have seen you complain about it a time or two. ;)

I'm actually trained as a graphic designer, e-learning and flash dev. by trade, and a digital/analog artist (a/v/traditional) @ home. You'd think i'd be in there trading secrets and what-not, but i haven't been all that creative this past year. Digital photography is just so quick to turn-around that it's about all i've been into lately ... but now i don't have a working camera. :(

Oh well, i need to catch up on all the latest and greatest ... more MR for me i guess. :p


peace | neut (hey mike, i expect royalties if you add that to your sig.) :D
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one hapenny for each time! :)

my fault about the canon/nikon wars? Hardly. just expressing the cold hard facts: one DSLR isn't better than any other if used the right way.

if some posters can't admit that, it's not my issue. ;)

haha
 
neut said:
Hey, that's Mike's fault ... not mine. :p

:D

I don't spend enough time in the Design/Web/DV forums as i should (i think the Pic. Assoc. thread was taking too much of my time), so i haven't seen the intrusion, but i have seen you complain about it a time or two. ;)

I'm actually trained as a graphic designer, e-learning and flash dev. by trade, and a digital/analog artist (a/v/traditional) @ home. You'd think i'd be in there trading secrets and what-not, but i haven't been all that creative this past year. Digital photography is just so quick to turn-around that it's about all i've been into lately ... but now i don't have a working camera. :(

Oh well, i need to catch up on all the latest and greatest ... more MR for me i guess. :p


peace | neut (hey mike, i expect royalties if you add that to your sig.) :D
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Could we also make it a rule that you have to actually show your work in the photo threads? ;)
 
Moxiemike said:
I have no agenda other than to share techniques (and if i've helped, buy a print or three, right efoto :p ). To me, the thing that helped me in the early stages of my career is having good, nice, supportive people to talk to and learn from.

I'm at the point now where i can provide that. So bring it on.
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You know I don't have any money Mike :p Once I sell a few of my own prints, I'll buy some of your stuff....assuming I find something I like of course ;) :p
 
Moxiemike said:
Could we also make it a rule that you have to actually show your work in the photo threads? ;)
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I think it would be cool to have threads dedicated to that, but of course some of the topics will be Q&A based 'what do you think of buying this lens?' kind of stuff. I think it would be great and helpful to post images/examples of what you have questions about though, much easier to understand/troubleshoot.

When I had ISO related questions about noise I posted a few small 100% crops and had good responses in relation to those. Without showing the images it would have been hard for people to judge if the noise was acceptable or not....but of course that type of question necessitates an image to be posted.

As far as who moderates it (if moderators other than the general ones), it shouldn't matter if they are a pro or not a photographer at all (assuming they would want to read/moderate photography :p), they just need the time and the balls to stop petty arguments over brands or other issues. Hopefully we can all just get along and share technique/images/feeeeeelings :D
 
pubwvj said:
There are already several good forums on digital photography so what is the point in starting another one? Check out:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/

and

http://www.stevesforums.com/forums/

There are many others - those are just two of the ones I read.
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I haven't done Steve's forums; but have done DPR's. No thanks! No real moderation, and when there is it is heavy handed. And given the heated posts that we have seen here about Nikon and Canon, DPR is much worse.

I like MR being a one-stop shop of interests. Most here are level headed, and the Mods keep those that aren't in check.
 
What, and more work for the moderators?

I think Picture Gallery should still be separate from a digital photo forum.

I'm leaning back and forth between having a photo forum, or just lumping all mac media into one big gigantic Digital Media forum, like how Community Discussions' topics vary widely.
 
Lacero said:
What, and more work for the moderators?

I think Picture Gallery should still be separate from a digital photo forum.

I'm leaning back and forth between having a photo forum, or just lumping all mac media into one big gigantic Digital Media forum, like how Community Discussions' topics vary widely.
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Well not wanting to weigh the mods down more is why the discussion of some forum-specific mods came up. It would be great to have some resident pros watch over that forum, even if they only have that power in the one forum.

The Picture Gallery is cool, but it doesn't get used the way that I think it was intended. There are rarely threads with actual image content....it's a lot of discussions and debates. There were a few were someone started a thread about 'my pics from this weekend' where they were asking for feedback about their pictures....but most just die out fast or are not even started with pictures. Perhaps if that was more strict about content, and the 'digital photography thread' was most about discussions and advice, then the two could co-exist well.
 
Lacero said:
What, and more work for the moderators?
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No, I have better faith in most members here on MR. I can't say the same for some other photography forums that I have been with.

I think Picture Gallery should still be separate from a digital photo forum.
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I am mixed on this. Putting it in a Photography Forum would give more exposure perhaps. I have not visited the Picture Gallery much. One thing that does work on another forum is a Words/No Words (W/NW) thread.

I'm leaning back and forth between having a photo forum, or just lumping all mac media into one big gigantic Digital Media forum, like how Community Discussions' topics vary widely.
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As noted in other posts I am a proponent of separate forums/threads. It makes it easier for MR members to find topics that interest them. And for others to just stay away, if they have no interest in that "group". The recent GayWay "blow-up" does seem to indicate that separate forums may be more manageable in the long run. Much like the Political Forums here.
 
efoto said:
Well not wanting to weigh the mods down more is why the discussion of some forum-specific mods came up. It would be great to have some resident pros watch over that forum, even if they only have that power in the one forum.
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Hope that is possible.

The Picture Gallery is cool, but it doesn't get used the way that I think it was intended. There are rarely threads with actual image content....it's a lot of discussions and debates. There were a few were someone started a thread about 'my pics from this weekend' where they were asking for feedback about their pictures....but most just die out fast or are not even started with pictures. Perhaps if that was more strict about content, and the 'digital photography thread' was most about discussions and advice, then the two could co-exist well.
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If debates and discussion are based on the images posted, I see little problem. That is the purpose of art IMO.

I am not sure that I would want a sub-forum in a Photography Forum for commenting on pictures as a normal course of things. There is an excellent website for that: www.photosig.com. I would prefer that for its broader member base. But for general discussions of photographic matter, I would like to make MR my home.

I should add, just what is "digital photography"? Is it dealing with only cameras with a CMOS or CCD sensor? What about the scanning of negatives and prints? We also need to ask the question, do we exclude those that still use film, yet have no scanning ability?

BTW: I have not seen any indication from the Mods on this topic as of yet....
 
Chip NoVaMac said:
If debates and discussion are based on the images posted, I see little problem. That is the purpose of art IMO.

I am not sure that I would want a sub-forum in a Photography Forum for commenting on pictures as a normal course of things. There is an excellent website for that: www.photosig.com. I would prefer that for its broader member base. But for general discussions of photographic matter, I would like to make MR my home.

I should add, just what is "digital photography"? Is it dealing with only cameras with a CMOS or CCD sensor? What about the scanning of negatives and prints? We also need to ask the question, do we exclude those that still use film, yet have no scanning ability?

BTW: I have not seen any indication from the Mods on this topic as of yet....
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If the debates and discussions are based on the images, I'm all for it. What I have seen in the Picture Gallery are threads started without images where discussions take place. That is a valid thread, but to me doesn't belong in a Picture Gallery if there are no pictures. If we get a Digital Photography section then I think there could simply be two subs-forums; Pictures-Related Discussions and Word Discussion (like the W/NW someone said).

As far as 'what is digital photography', well that is obviously a somewhat difficult question. I would tend to limit it to CMOS/CCD bearing cameras, however I would have no problems with scanned film images as well. On your last point, I'm not sure how we could include those shooting film with no scanning abilities....how would they upload images? :confused:

As far as the mods go, sadly their lack of indication may be their indication :(
Have any PMs been sent to high-ranking officials?
 
efoto said:
On your last point, I'm not sure how we could include those shooting film with no scanning abilities....how would they upload images? :confused:
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Why should images be a requirement to post to this new forum? That is what I meant.

So many of the threads about photography I dealt with really did not need images. And some of those indicated that a film based camera was the way to go.

As far as the mods go, sadly their lack of indication may be their indication :(

Have any PMs been sent to high-ranking officials?
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Hope not. But by now I would have hoped for some guidance from the Mods as to this request.
 
Lacero said:
I'm leaning back and forth between having a photo forum, or just lumping all mac media into one big gigantic Digital Media forum, like how Community Discussions' topics vary widely.
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As somebody who likes to help out in the Design & Graphics Forum and checks it often, I would find the idea of everything in one forum — video, graphics, photography — a disincentive to looking much further than the top and most recent posts.

And for those of you who keep suggesting other forums on other boards — that's not the point. If I want to go to another forum to discuss iPods or digital video or audio, I could do that as well... but I don't want to.

Furthermore, there are those who bring their camera and photography-related questions here and these topics end up scattered across differerent forums. Why not put them in one place? Simple.

Surely the idea is bring people in, not send them elsewhere?
 
Blue Velvet said:
Surely the idea is bring people in, not send them elsewhere?
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indeed.

i think there should be a Digital Life Forum,
sub forums for Design, Photography, iPod, and Digital Filming

does that make sense, then we have one large broad forum for everything Digitial Lifestyle organized into their respective niches....

or at least a Digital Photography forum would be a welcome addition in my eyes.
 
PlaceofDis said:
indeed.

i think there should be a Digital Life Forum,
sub forums for Design, Photography, iPod, and Digital Filming

does that make sense, then we have one large broad forum for everything Digitial Lifestyle organized into their respective niches....

or at least a Digital Photography forum would be a welcome addition in my eyes.
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Your idea may be the best yet!
 
While it would be a nice addition (or modification, depending on what would be done) arn't there whole forums dedicated to this subject?
 
amacgenius said:
While it would be a nice addition (or modification, depending on what would be done) arn't there whole forums dedicated to this subject?
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Respectfully but have you not read this thread? There are also entire alternate forums dedicated to graphics, iPods, digital audio and video... yet their inclusion here as distinct forums is not dismissed.

It makes no sense to me to see threads like this in a Design & Graphics forums.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/161544/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/159015/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/159673/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/159246/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/157282/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/154891/
 
PlaceofDis said:
i think there should be a Digital Life Forum,
sub forums for Design, Photography, iPod, and Digital Filming
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I would like to see iPod = Music and Digital Filming = Video.

These would need to be broken down further into, Artistic appreciation and Technical talk ... as a loose separation of those who actually practice these skills and those who sit in the audience. :)


peace | neut
 
Have any mods read this or commented on this? :confused:

I think this could really be a good idea, especially the Digital Life forum that Dis suggested. If we could break that down into the large groups of 'Digital Life' that we all use; photography, video, graphics/design, etc. we could really have a highly viewed and highly function forum I think.

Like BV has said at multiple points, there is a lot of overlap into other forums with new threads that don't really have a home. Putting all of this digital talk into one place could really help organization and flow for the overall forums.
 
so...

"Digital Photography" as a new forum. sound good?

arn
 
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