How can Apple top the iPhone X next year?

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  1. parajba macrumors 6502

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    Apart from the usual spec bump including much faster FaceID, there will be the obvious X Plus model. So that they can charge even more. I reckon the base model will be £1,149 and top model £1,349...
     
  2. Relentless Power macrumors P6

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    Undoubtedly the X Plus will be more expensive. But I'm sure they will also add some sort a type of exclusivity to the larger model with features that the smaller 5.8 iPhone X would not have. Apple has to create a separation in order for the consumer to justify the price point and why they would want the larger model.
     
  3. aakshey macrumors regular

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    4GB RAM

    A processor which is say 50% faster. Say A12.

    Graphics which are perhaps twice as fast.

    Smoother and clearer OLED.

    ProMotion 120 Hz

    Better cameras

    Thinner, lighter

    Better battery

    Perhaps even a slight design change.

    Gigabit LTE

    BT 5.0

    Better water resistance

    Face ID 2.0

    Etc
     
  4. powerocool macrumors 6502

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    - A12
    - iPhone X Plus
    - ProMotion display
    - Faster Face ID
    - Smaller Notch
    - Gold color
     
  5. powerocool, Nov 11, 2017
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    powerocool macrumors 6502

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    2019
    - No Lightning port
    - All wireless

    EDIT:
    - No SIM slot either, E-SIM
     
  6. Hanson Eigilson macrumors member

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    - USB-C now that they committed to it on macbooks
    - 4.7" version like SE edition
    - with touch ID in the power button, no face ID, no front facing cameras
    - 3.5mm jack
    - thick to make room for lots of battery, cheaper electronics and a flush camera lens on the back
    - same edge to edge design
    - ss frame with soft buffer towards screen and ceramic back
     
  7. pika2000 macrumors 68030

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    Well, the X could be a one off model. I mean I don’t think there will be an X-2.
    I think next year Apple would discontinue the X, and implement all the X features like FaceID into the 2018 iPhone 11, making the form factor standard for the iPhone. IMO it could be one reason why Apple increased the base price this year, to offset the possibly increased BOM next year.
    I don’t think Apple would keep the current X next year. It would be weird having a $900 phone that has slower SoC than the $700 iPhone 11.

    Of course, the pessimist in me would see Apple keeping the $999 as the “new” base price for 2018 iPhones, and simply dropping the current X to $900 and keeping the current lineup intact.
     
  8. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    I dont really care about the science behind it, if they cant get it to work then come out with something better.
    Im not an engineer or designer of such tech, just the end user.
     
  9. KingslayerG5 macrumors 65816

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    I was thinking the same thing back in June 2010. How could Apple topple the 4? It was so so perfect! I was still intoxicated by it calling it the best phone ever made. Then iPhone 4s came out nearly 16 months later, looked like it except offered dual-core CPU, 7x faster GPU, and better antenna bands.

    The 4s had a foursome of slits. It lasted all the way up to iOS9 while 4 only lasted up to iOS7 and its GPU was so weak, games like Candy Crush, Subway Surfers, and Sonic Rush would lag and stutter on it. This was only 2-3 years later having dropped frames.

    June 2010 - Oct 2011: iPhone 4 had the longest time ever to be considered the Apple flagship. Like 15.5 months before its successor was released.

    Didn't you just watch PhoneBuff show how the Note8 beat the X? Apple is stingy with RAM. Maybe if X had an extra gig more, it would've won. Look at the iPhone 6 / 6 Plus now on iOS11 because it only had 1 GB of RAM.

    The iPhone 4, 6, and X are considered freshmans. It always gets better every year.

    Freshman - 2G, 4, 6, X
    Sophomore - 3G, 4s, 6s,
    Junior - 3Gs, 5, 7
    Senior - 5s/SE, 8

    Moral of the story: We don't know what the future holds. Hard to future-proof anything in tech. So speculate all you want and look foolish once next year arrives and you're totally wrong with your assumptions that the X is nearly perfect right now. I made that same mistake with the iPhone 4.

    [​IMG]
     
  10. fischersd macrumors 601

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    Actually, I was wondering why no-one (especially the Alphabet evil empire) hasn't yet developed nanites that can tap into the optic nerve, so we can have UI's transposed on what we already see.
    We're getting there though.
    https://www.newscientist.com/articl...-images-direct-to-the-brain-to-restore-sight/

    It will happen. Curing the blind will be the vehicle that gets us there.
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    When they get rid of that lightning port: water resistance rating of 50 meters under ISO standard 22810:2010
     
  11. Lyn2012 macrumors regular

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    • Dual SIM
    • 16:9 display with no bezels
    • Screen with no blue tint, no colours changing if you look at it off centre, and most importantly flicker free. If these things are inherent and unavoidable with OLED, then stay with LCD
     
  12. CiccioAtSea macrumors regular

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    Do you really believe there’s an actual need for more ram on the iPhone? Honest question
     
  13. fischersd macrumors 601

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    Dual SIM is a way of the past. All of the carriers will eventually support eSIM provisioning (see the Apple Watch 3).
    You can have at least a half dozen roaming profiles on your device once everyone supports eSIM provisioning. (I hope they make it geo-fenced...so it automatically switches as you travel).
     
  14. ipedro thread starter macrumors 68040

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    While the iPhone 4 was beautiful, it was clear that it had a long way to go in terms of speed, graphics and components. The camera was pretty terrible, the speed and graphics were not up to part of other computers at the time and the screen was still far from the dream of an all screen device. We knew this at the time. It’s not just a retrospective view. We knew iPhone had a long way to go and a clear path of upgrades ahead of it.

    The follow up to iPhone X is not quite as clear. This thing is blazingly fast, it’s capable of running apps that are on par with a Mac. The camera is reaching a point of where it can only be improved by software due to physical limitations on hardware. Battery is also fantastic. The longest lasting iPhone despite being the most powerful.

    The obvious thing is moving facial recognition components behind the screen but that is not going to happen next year.

    So the question remains: what do they do next year? How do they top the iPhone X other than some minor bumps in speed that it clearly doesn’t need?

    This thread isn’t a wish list. It’s a question of what can be realistically introduced next year.

    Perhaps we’ll see the iPhone X lowered in price to become the default iPhone, offered in new colours and with most updates being done in software.

    I’m legitimately curious what iPhone will be introduced next year. I’m also pretty confident that whoever bought the iPhone X will probably have a longer replacement cycle than what we’re used to with huge leaps in speed and functionality year over year.

    Jony Ive hinted that the iPhone X will be a vessel for major upgrades that’ll happen in software.
     
  15. xxray macrumors 6502

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    I don't think it's a necessity now, no. But iOS will only require more resources in the future, and the more the phone can hold in short term memory, the better. It saves a lot of a time.
     
  16. EnderBeta macrumors 6502

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    If you believe that I have a bridge for sale at a price so good you can’t afford to not buy it from me.
     
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  18. KingslayerG5 macrumors 65816

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    Over seven years ago, I thought this iPhone was perfection...



    ^ Three years later, it can't even play Candy Crush and Subway Surfers without lagging.

    Five years ago, I bet some people thought this was the perfect iPhone...



    Perfection can be improved. You learn from the previous days to try to become a better and more knowledgeable human being. That's how technology works too. Learn from the previous to get better and wiser.

    Prisoner of the moment. Honeymoon phase intoxication. I get it. New car scent. Those new swipe gestures copied from webOS are wowing some of you right now. I understand. Just a wait awhile. Reality returns.

    The iPhone X is the best iPhone ever made (so far). In ten months, a different narrative. The best iPhone with plenty of room for improvements like more RAM, better cameras especially the front, longer battery life, more color options, etc.

    Relax. X is great. But it will continue to get better with its successors. The X is a template for the next 3-4 years. A foundation. It's vanilla ice cream without the toppings and sprinkles yet.
     
  19. ipedro thread starter macrumors 68040

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    I have a 2012 iMac that has been a vessel for incredible improvements done in software and to this day, it’s fast and reliable and runs the latest software. And I’m sure it has a few more years in it.

    Mac’s didn’t get to that point overnight. iPhone appears to have reached this inflection point.

    Nobody said that Apple is going to stop hardware development on iPhone but according to Ive’s comments and according to the history of the company and precedents set by technology in the past, the iPhone X might be around for a long time as a viable phone for those who wish to keep using it. They’ll get a lot of use out of it and major improvements delivered via iOS like Mac users have gotten in macOS.
     
  20. ob81 macrumors 65816

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    The plus size version alone wouldn't be much. They are going to add something to the plus size to set it apart for high margins. I honestly think that people can use the iPhone X for 2-3 years and be fine if they wanted too. The RAM and CPU are solid. The camera is awesome. We are doing 4k with this thing. The average user is good with 1080p. 12mp photos. The iPhone 6, the revolution that it was, as an example, was solid for three years. It only lacked force touch, cpu speed/RAM, and an improved camera by the time the 7 came out.
     
  21. Sunnyday2017, Nov 11, 2017
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    I saw one YouTube comparison between the iPhone X and a Samsung galaxy note with more memory. The one with more memory, galaxy, could have more open apps then the iPhone X. It also showed that the more memory it had (galaxy note), it did not have to reopen as the iPhone did in gaming and some other apps. And that is why in my opinion, more memory the better




     
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    Better cameras, faster, last longer, better screen quality etc like every iPhone.

    And the launch of a Plus model with a 6.8” or thereabouts screen and bezelfree design.
     
  24. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    Hell yeah, then I could do facebook live while Im scuba diving :D
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    Judging by the way their ios 11 software has been so far a complete disaster Im not too confident that they will put out incredible improvements in software. They cant even get them to run properly without tons of bugs and issues never mind improvements.
     
  25. EnderBeta macrumors 6502

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    Obviously software gets updated. You're quoting double talk about Ive not having a clue what's next. So he blabs on about software updating.

    If you believe that the software will be vastly different though you would be wrong. Even if it is better the iPhone 8, 7 and 6s are fast enough to run the software too if it isn't artificially restricted.

    In truth the man has no direction. That's why he is a one trick pony with making everything thinner and chopping out ports. It's all he knows how to do without a leader telling him what to do.
     

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