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Thanks a lot. They should sticky this post. Which one is more important for judging battery, standby or usage?
They are both important. Depends on what you did with phone. I ran phone for 11 hrs usage and 105 hours standby. Another test I ran 16 hours 11 min usage and 16 hours and 11 min standby. First test phone sat for days sleeping. Other test the screen never went off for total time.
 
Thanks a lot. They should sticky this post. Which one is more important for judging battery, standby or usage?

They're both useful, which is why they would include both. If you're the type of person who glances at notifications and then puts it back down, standby is very useful so that you can find out if background tasks are killing your battery. It can also be useful to find out if you got a full day of battery. If your standby gets up to 18 hours, then you definitely got a full day's use out of your phone assuming that you sleep 6 hours/night. (woohoo!)

If you are the type of person who watches videos constantly, plays video games, or browses the web constantly, usage might be more useful as you can see the battery effect of what you do most. If you track your usage over time and find an anomaly day, you can use usage to see if you have a runaway app, or if you simply had the screen on for a longer amount of time that day (which really, your screen is one of the biggest battery-drainers).

The battery usage is more geared towards battery hygiene. If something is taking up a disproportionate amount of battery, you can decide to:
1. Disable background refreshing 2. Use the app less 3. Disable notifications for the app 4. Find a different app that does generally the same thing, but uses less battery, or 5. Delete the app

The battery monitoring preference pane gives you a good idea of what to expect from modifying these behaviors.
 
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Why so many phones??

First one had a faulty home button. It only worked if you pressed the top right on the edge. Anywhere else didn't react when pressed. Worst home button ever.

Second one the screen kept dimming really badly and it looked a dark, smokey yellow when it did. Even with auto brightness off it did it, despite several restores.

Third one had major lag straight out of the box. As the others had been speed demons with zero lag, this bothered me massively. It also had an awful screen. Blue as heck, major dark binding effect at the top and I just wasn't having it. Took this one back the soonest of all.

Fourth one had a dreadful battery life. Almost in 6S territory. It had the best screen of the lot but no matter what I did, the battery life was terrible. It also lagged but due to the amount of restores I did to try and cure the battery issue the lag went away.

My latest one has another crappy screen, a Lightning port that is so loose you can't pick your phone up from the bedside table without the cable dropping out. It also has a very dark pressure point at the lower left of the screen. The battery life is phenomenal though and this phone is the fastest I've had. I'm sick to death of exchanging so might ask if the Lightning port can be replaced rather than the whole phone. Probably not...
 
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First one had a faulty home button. It only worked if you pressed the top right on the edge. Anywhere else didn't react when pressed. Worst home button ever.

Second one the screen kept dimming really badly and it looked a dark, smokey yellow when it did. Even with auto brightness off it did it, despite several restores.

Third one had major lag straight out of the box. As the others had been speed demons with zero lag, this bothered me massively. It also had an awful screen. Blue as heck, major dark binding effect at the top and I just wasn't having it. Took this one back the soonest of all.

Fourth one had a dreadful battery life. Almost in 6S territory. It had the best screen of the lot but no matter what I did, the battery life was terrible. It also lagged but due to the amount of restores I did to try and cure the battery issue the lag went away.

My latest one has another crappy screen, a Lightning port that is so loose you can't pick your phone up from the bedside table without the cable dropping out. It also has a very dark pressure point at the lower left of the screen. The battery life is phenomenal though and this phone is the fastest I've had. I'm sick to death of exchanging so might ask if the Lightning port can be replaced rather than the whole phone. Probably not...
Damn, that's disheartening. On the two I got everything seems to be fine, don't want to even look any closer at them for fear might find something.it would be interesting to find out the return rates and reasons for the various iPhone since the beginning. Wondering what is trending up vs down in frequency per million. Course Apple would never disclose that information. And can't use this forum as there is no way this forum represents average cross section of users. Wishing you luck in sorting out this poor experience.
 
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For the record I trust Samsung more than TSMC. They're a bigger company. From that perspective I'm glad I got Samsung.

How can I test how many hours I'm getting?
Hours with Sammy chip? Ahahah... If your iPhone will not turn off after 10 mins you are lucky :p:D
 
Hours with Sammy chip? Ahahah... If your iPhone will not turn off after 10 mins you are lucky :p:D

More like 10 hours. 10 minutes is probably not even the case for android phones. Minimum you would need is 2-3 hours of batter life.
 
I got 6.5 hours useage and 9.5 hours standby.

Is that normal?

Yes. No. Maybe. Depends on what you're doing. Things like games and talking or using data in poor coverage will eat your battery much faster than reading ebooks or listening to music stored on your phone.

Just use your phone. Return it if the battery doesn't live up to your expectations.

Just FYI though... I haven't used my phone much today, so on my 6s, battery is at 48%, with 4:52 usage and 12:41 standby.

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Yes. No. Maybe. Depends on what you're doing. Things like games and talking or using data in poor coverage will eat your battery much faster than reading ebooks or listening to music stored on your phone.

Just use your phone. Return it if the battery doesn't live up to your expectations.

Just FYI though... I haven't used my phone much today, so on my 6s, battery is at 48%, with 4:52 usage and 12:41 standby.

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Wifi only. Internet browsing mainly and Apple Music.

Is that that bad for what I was doing?
 
I just want my batter to last all day.

Monitor your usage on the stock battery app and adjust judiciously.

Honestly it's not that complicated.

When I had my iPhone 6 I didn't worry about whether the device lasted all day, it did. I didn't play games all day or stream music all day. I used it when I needed to. Part of the day I was at work and otherwise occupied. I wasn't on it 24/7/365. So I would easily get the device to last the whole day.

If you don't work and you don't go to school and your expectation is to be on the device all day nonstop, no device will do that.
 
Wifi only. Internet browsing mainly and Apple Music.

Is that that bad for what I was doing?

You tell us. What do your usage stats say? How much of that 6.5 hours did you spend surfing the web? How many hours streaming? What else was going on with the phone?

I don't think you're helping yourself by trying to get others to judge how good your battery is. If your 6s lasts most of the day on what you consider to be normal usage then you're golden.
 
Usage is how long it's been on with the screen on since last full charge.
Standby is the time the phone has been on since last full charge with the screen on or off, so they do overlap. You can get more standby than usage, but you can't get more usage than standby.

Tapping on the items in the list show the number of minutes for on and off-screen time, for instance, a chat will run in the background since it needs to know when a message arrives, but it won't take up too much of the battery while doing it.

The percentage per app shows what percent of the total battery used was used by a specific app, so while you could technically run the battery down, charge the battery and then run it down again within 24 hours, the % from each app won't add up to 200%. You could also only use 1% of the battery, and the percentages beside the apps will add up to 100%.

Usage isn't screen on time. Usage is the total time the phone is 'awake' Listening to music with the screen off is considered usage. Fetching email in the background while it's in your pocket is usage. It's far from SOT.
 
To be fair, usage is subjective depending on a variety of factors imo, what other people report is entirely not exactly what you will do in most days, because each person has their own individual way of utilizing their iPhones daily. Some factors include:
1) Signal strength?
2) Wifi all day or 4G all day or a mixture of both.
3) Do you play intensive games
4) Screen brightness level?
5) and many more...

For me I play game quite a bit (Rival Kingdoms and Vain Glory) as two prime examples, quite heavy graphics with the latter being very intensive yet surprisingly my phone never or heats up very little to none... which is impressive in contrast to previous android samsungs i used...

Today I got about 7.5 hours usage time [i have about 3-4 hour screen time on or so if that helps because usage time does not mean screen on time only, it includes background and foreground processes] and 12 hour standby on my 6s+ running samsung chip.

Most of the time I'm on 4G most of the day with a few check ins to wifi, Screen brightness adjusts because I dont use auto brightness, but mostly hangs around the 50% mark.

But given today was my day off I was playing and engaging my phone a lot more than usual on the go around city, therefore I wouldn't expect the usage time to be "HIGH" because i'm constantly engaging the phone a lot most of the day and on screen is a major battery drainer [due to those pixels]

If was in University studying, I could get a higher usage time and standby time with a better % because i dont use the phone often even though i leave wifi on...

So yea, it is hard to ask people how their battery life is like. you have to test it yourself, record what you do, eg 2 hours facebook 1 hour gaming 15min reading emails etc...
then gauge that accordingly... as an example

For me i game a lot so i dont know if that apply to a lot of other 6s/6s+ users. surely if they were not like me they'll get like 10 hours usage no problem :)

hope this sorta helps, like i said you must test it yourself how u will use that phone on a daily basis... we can't do that for you.
 
I got 6.5 hours useage and 9.5 hours standby.

Is that normal?
You establish what is and isn't normal for your usage by setting a baseline and comparing it to that. Asking is X time for doing Y normal won't get you anywhere. Usage and battery life are tied and vary from person to person.

Stop fretting over it and use your device. You'll notice if you're getting abnormal battery life as it will be obvious to you. If you have to keep fretting over it and repeatedly asking if your battery lif is ok then it probably is.

For the record I trust Samsung more than TSMC.
That's an issue with you, not your battery life. Don't rely on such oversimplifications such as trusting a company or country or assuming that battery life is only dependent on a single processor.
 
Can someone please just tell me if my battery is normal or not?

I don't want to switch it out and get the same battery life BUT a yellow screen, shoddy Touch ID, and be worse off.
 
Nobody can tell you that. There's too much variance on what you might be doing and on the different phone hardware. I'd say you're "within range", if that makes you feel any better.

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I don't believe this. There has to be a way of knowing whether or not your battery is defective or not. This is hardly a subjective matter.
 
I don't believe this. There has to be a way of knowing whether or not your battery is defective or not. This is hardly a subjective matter.

Believe what you like. The problem is that you're not trying to test the battery specifications, but power consumption. And power consumption is a combination of many factors. Too many to try to standardize and provide a "normal" number.

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Believe what you like. The problem is that you're not trying to test the battery specifications, but power consumption. And power consumption is a combination of many factors. Too many to try to standardize and provide a "normal" number.

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Give em a break guys, yes you are within normal range. You can rest easy. If you want more life try doing screen manual, and keep it as low as comfortable. It's easy to change screen brightness by just swiping up and adjust. If it ever falls off drastically just take it to Apple Store, they can test battery, to see if cell went bad.
 
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