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Because Apple knows it's a pointless little gimmick fapped over by fanboys only, and those are going to buy the new iPads anyway. The iPhones need to be announced with some kind of gimmick to cater to wide-eyed people, but fortunatelly the iPads have been catering to more mature audiences. It was the same thing with Siri - Apple made a big splash announcing a (still broken to this day) feature for the iPhone that would not be available to the same year's iPad.

Wrong....

Im no Apple fanboy, and the only apple products Ive ever owned are the iphone 5 and 5S.

TouchID is the biggest feature for me making the jump, and now I dont think I can purchase another handheld Apple device without it.
 
Notice that on the iPad that the least amount of time one can set to elapse before the lock screen enables is two minutes. On the iPhone, it's immediately. The majority of people use their iPads at home and don't use a passcode. While the corporate sector for iPad is important, the lack of touch ID will not inhibit sales as the merits of the hardware and iOS will still sell the iPad. People, i.e. law enforcement, have been clamoring for Apple to build in deterrents to theft. iOS 7 brought that and touch ID strengthened it more, but the core problem with theft is with the iPhone. I'm not saying iPads don't get stolen, just that it's a bigger problem with iPhones.
 
This behavior is standard for Apple since years.

Really? Why would you say that?

I really doubt that Apple would intentionally hold back a key feature like this at the start of the holiday shopping season just so they can inflate their figures for next year.

If they don't include it, it will be because of production issues. Not everything is an anti-consumer conspiracy.:cool:
 
When all devices, phones, iPads, laptops and computers (with appropriate keyboards or touch pads) all have the fingerprint technology then finally passwords can be eliminated for those of us who hate them intensely.

This can't come fast enough. My fear is that Apple is thinking more about quick access to iTunes, Apps and social media and may not cooperate with developers who would take this technology further and eliminate passwords for all things.
Fingerprints are a username, not a password.
TouchID is a convenience feature, not a security one.

I really doubt that Apple would intentionally hold back a key feature like this at the start of the holiday shopping season just so they can inflate their figures for next year.
Just look at what happened with the iPad 3. They wouldn't wait for proper worldwide 4G chips, a GPU capable of actually driving the retina display, or the upcoming Lightning connector.

Instead they shipped an under-performing iPad 3 and replaced it 6 months later.

Apple has a history of holding back features to push sales of the next machine.
 
Notice that on the iPad that the least amount of time one can set to elapse before the lock screen enables is two minutes. On the iPhone, it's immediately. The majority of people use their iPads at home and don't use a passcode. While the corporate sector for iPad is important, the lack of touch ID will not inhibit sales as the merits of the hardware and iOS will still sell the iPad. People, i.e. law enforcement, have been clamoring for Apple to build in deterrents to theft. iOS 7 brought that and touch ID strengthened it more, but the core problem with theft is with the iPhone. I'm not saying iPads don't get stolen, just that it's a bigger problem with iPhones.

What makes you think that the majority of iPad owners use them at home. Do you have any evidence to show that. I don't think that's the case as I see people every day using iPads on the train, bus, in cafés and in restaurants and fast food places. I myself use my iPad regularly away from home and use a pass code. I would welcome the finger print ID sensor to be included in the new iPads. They said its not a deal breaker for me.

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Fingerprints are a username, not a password.
TouchID is a convenience feature, not a security one.

Just look at what happened with the iPad 3. They wouldn't wait for proper worldwide 4G chips, a GPU capable of actually driving the retina display, or the upcoming Lightning connector.

Instead they shipped an under-performing iPad 3 and replaced it 6 months later.

Apple has a history of holding back features to push sales of the next machine.

Fingerprint sensor ID is not a user name. It is a password and is an alternative to entering the pass code and much faster. It is a security option and not just for convenience.

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Because Apple knows it's a pointless little gimmick fapped over by fanboys only, and those are going to buy the new iPads anyway. The iPhones need to be announced with some kind of gimmick to cater to wide-eyed people, but fortunatelly the iPads have been catering to more mature audiences. It was the same thing with Siri - Apple made a big splash announcing a (still broken to this day) feature for the iPhone that would not be available to the same year's iPad.

That is all a load of absolute rubbish and you have no idea what you're talking about.
 
I wish to have it too and it would be kind of not smart not to include it in ipad5, who like entering stupid passwords all the time?
 
I ask, very simply: how on earth can Apple not put Touch ID on the iPad 5? I've seen rumors that suggest it won't get this feature, and to be honest I can't imagine how that would be possible. I'd honestly love to hear someone straighten me out and give me a reason as to why they wouldn't, because the more I think about the less it seems possible. While the iPad is clearly the king of tablets, its market share is dropping fast. This is an important iPad for Apple, and I find it really hard to imagine they'd make people wait a year to experience their new flagship feature. I really think it would get some bad press and a ton of reviews from people wondering where the feature is. Thoughts?

I wouldn't trust this monkey known as Kuo.
I bet Kuo get his source from reading from the forums. :rolleyes:

Touch ID is coming to the iPad 5.
The video by unboxtherapy showing how the Touch ID from iPhone 5S fits into the iPad 5's glass cover made me a believer.
 
This behavior is standard for Apple since years.

You're wrong. Sure, they hold things back if they're not ready to be introduced, or if they're exclusive to s "professional" product, but I challenge you to show me a single major company that sabotages one years profits in favor of the next. The stockholders would kill them for that.

But, if you can somehow show some kind of proof that Apple deliberately let one holiday season's sales slide just so they can inflate the next year's sales, I'd love to see it.

Like I said, it's not a conspiracy. But please... prove me wrong.
 
You're wrong. Sure, they hold things back if they're not ready to be introduced, or if they're exclusive to s "professional" product, but I challenge you to show me a single major company that sabotages one years profits in favor of the next. The stockholders would kill them for that.

But, if you can somehow show some kind of proof that Apple deliberately let one holiday season's sales slide just so they can inflate the next year's sales, I'd love to see it.

Like I said, it's not a conspiracy. But please... prove me wrong.
He's right they do it but they obviously aren't going to outright say it to the consumer, you're joking about wanting "proof" right?
 
I ask, very simply: how on earth can Apple not put Touch ID on the iPad 5? I've seen rumors that suggest it won't get this feature, and to be honest I can't imagine how that would be possible. I'd honestly love to hear someone straighten me out and give me a reason as to why they wouldn't, because the more I think about the less it seems possible. While the iPad is clearly the king of tablets, its market share is dropping fast. This is an important iPad for Apple, and I find it really hard to imagine they'd make people wait a year to experience their new flagship feature. I really think it would get some bad press and a ton of reviews from people wondering where the feature is. Thoughts?

Do you really think this would be a smart move? I know friends who've been waiting for a 5S and still haven't gotten it and they've ordered 3-4 weeks ago. IF they're having such a tough time with a phone, it wouldn't be smart to put it on an iPad especially since their sales will probably take a hit because of constrained supplies. Just my 10 cents.
 
Just look at what happened with the iPad 3. They wouldn't wait for proper worldwide 4G chips, a GPU capable of actually driving the retina display, or the upcoming Lightning connector.

Instead they shipped an under-performing iPad 3 and replaced it 6 months later.

Apple has a history of holding back features to push sales of the next machine.

So what are you saying they should have done, not release the iPad 3 when they did? Imagine the outcry if they hadn't released an iPad in the spring of 2012 -- "No new iPad? Apple is falling behind! Woe! Doom! Fire Tim Copk!"

IMO, the early release of iPad 4 was a marketing decision. When they decided to switch from a Spring to a Fall release, they either had to have a gap of a year and a half between iPads, or they had to release one a half year early. Considering how competitive the tablet market is, I can't fault them for going for the latter.
 
There is no "sabotage". It just ensures the next release having enough new features.
I do not understand your blabla about a "conspiracy". Maybe you are a little bit into drama? It is just a clever planning of product cycle.

You're wrong. Sure, they hold things back if they're not ready to be introduced, or if they're exclusive to s "professional" product, but I challenge you to show me a single major company that sabotages one years profits in favor of the next. The stockholders would kill them for that.

But, if you can somehow show some kind of proof that Apple deliberately let one holiday season's sales slide just so they can inflate the next year's sales, I'd love to see it.

Like I said, it's not a conspiracy. But please... prove me wrong.
 
Fingerprints are a username, not a password.
TouchID is a convenience feature, not a security one.

Just look at what happened with the iPad 3. They wouldn't wait for proper worldwide 4G chips, a GPU capable of actually driving the retina display, or the upcoming Lightning connector.

Instead they shipped an under-performing iPad 3 and replaced it 6 months later.

Apple has a history of holding back features to push sales of the next machine.

I don't think Apple deliberately withheld features here. The technology simply wasn't ready by March, so they had no choice but to ship the iPad with the existing technology they had.
 
It is just a clever planning of product cycle.

Clever planning is releasing a product when demand is high, if possible. Like now. A lot of people want the TouchID, me included.

It's NOT waiting a year, until Christmas 2014, to cash in. That's kind of ridiculous, really. A month or two, maybe, but a year? If we don't get it now, it's because of logistics, supply, and manufacturing capacity. By next year Google, Samsung, and all the others will have similar technology, and Apple knows that.

But feel free to think that Apple is trying to save business for next year, and sacrifice the bottom line this year. :rolleyes:
 
Personally I don't think Touch ID is as important for the iPad. Most people use the iPad for a fairly prolonged period of time before it being set aside again - it's rare for people to constantly use their iPad in short bursts like one would when checking emails, notifications etc on a phone.

Touch ID would be nice, but I just don't think it's a necessity on an iPad.

It's important if you own a 5s. I've adapted to just placing my finger and not sliding and unlocking. It's going to be a pain going back and fourth. Bad user experience.
 
It's important if you own a 5s. I've adapted to just placing my finger and not sliding and unlocking. It's going to be a pain going back and fourth. Bad user experience.
Do you have to physically click the button for the fingerprint to register or does it unlock when you simply place your finger on the home button?
 
Do you have to physically click the button for the fingerprint to register or does it unlock when you simply place your finger on the home button?

Have to wake up the device somehow -- so most of the time, you wake it up by clicking the home button, and then leave the finger on the button until it unlocks. But if the device is already awake, like when you are responding to a notification, you don't need to click first.
 
It's important if you own a 5s. I've adapted to just placing my finger and not sliding and unlocking. It's going to be a pain going back and fourth. Bad user experience.

Yeah I can't decide if the 5 has touch id and the mini doesn't which I would rather have. I think still the mini but it would be a pain.
 
Clever planning is releasing a product when demand is high, if possible. Like now. A lot of people want the TouchID, me included.

It's NOT waiting a year, until Christmas 2014, to cash in. That's kind of ridiculous, really. A month or two, maybe, but a year? If we don't get it now, it's because of logistics, supply, and manufacturing capacity. By next year Google, Samsung, and all the others will have similar technology, and Apple knows that.

But feel free to think that Apple is trying to save business for next year, and sacrifice the bottom line this year. :rolleyes:
A lot of people have zero business sense. But can still type.
 
Have to wake up the device somehow -- so most of the time, you wake it up by clicking the home button, and then leave the finger on the button until it unlocks. But if the device is already awake, like when you are responding to a notification, you don't need to click first.
They should have had it where you just place your finger over it can't stand clicking that damn home button
 
This sucks hell why don't they push the release back a few weeks if they have to? They probably want to just keep it as an iPhone 5s exclusive so as to be a selling point for it.

What if "a few weeks" still can't dramatically increase the output of the fingerprint sensors?

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Thinking about the "still have a lot to cover" line in the invite,

Perhaps the iPad Smart Cover will somehow integrate the TouchID sensor. So that your iPad will only unlock if you are the one opening the cover.

Not sure how they'd pull it off but it could happen.

I just can't see the point in a home button touchID on the iPad. Most people use the smart cover, and it would just complicate the process.

No, this won't happen.

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Fingerprints are a username, not a password.
TouchID is a convenience feature, not a security one.

Just look at what happened with the iPad 3. They wouldn't wait for proper worldwide 4G chips, a GPU capable of actually driving the retina display, or the upcoming Lightning connector.

Instead they shipped an under-performing iPad 3 and replaced it 6 months later.

Apple has a history of holding back features to push sales of the next machine.

Your example ironically showed that Apple opted for the cutting edge screen technology instead of waiting the tech to get old and slap it on devices to feed fanboys.
 
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