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Love it. This is how I see it too. If a revamped 4s is all they have, you would think they would have done a better job handling expectations, like they did when they leaked WWDC would be software only.

If one phone--redesigned 4-- is all they have, then they've done a lousy job of managing expectations. Not an Apple trademark, I think most would agree. In 16 months, you would think they would do more than just upgrade a few specs on an existing shell. I'm just assuming the later than normal event date means they were waiting for more than just ios5 and icloud. People are expecting something major in hardware and there will be he'll to pay in the press if they don't get it.

and don't forget that Google has the Nexus Prime coming out shortly after the new iPhone. If Apple underperforms, google will be in great shape to take advantage. The Nexus phone address a lot of the issues of android (lack of updates, carrier "skins, etc") so a new nexus after a substandard apple whatever presentation could be bad news.

Regardless, you can absolutely expect to see the press run "iPhone x vs. Nexus Prime" articles. Hopefully the iPhone will stack up well in those articles.
 
I think we're all just desperately hoping that it will be redesigned. All these posts saying "it just wouldn't be logical for them to keep the same design, they'll fall behind, etc" I bet are not from experts in the industry. They're just excuses we keep telling ourselves to make the fantasy seem more of a reality. Perhaps just upgrading the internals is all Apple need for now, who knows?

I'd absolutely love there to be a new design (bigger screen at the forefront of that), because it'll make the difference between an upgrade or not, but my guess is as good as anyones. It really isn't logical to apply a % confidence in something though.
 
I'd absolutely love there to be a new design (bigger screen at the forefront of that), because it'll make the difference between an upgrade or not, but my guess is as good as anyones. It really isn't logical to apply a % confidence in something though.

I don't care about an external redesign just for an external redesign. However, a bigger screen I do want.
 
I'm about 75% confident.

Apple is in an extremely good position right now because there are millions of people over lots of different carriers that have never had an iPhone before waiting to see how good the iPhone 5 is. If they just do a minor spec bump they are going to lose a large majority of those people putting off buying another android. Apple cannot just sit back and rest on their laurels at this point in the game because there are new androids coming out every month that have better specs than the iPhone. While I will most likely never purchase an android myself, thats not to say other people who were strongly considering an iPhone won't. Apple has to continue to innovate and stay on top of the market and I don't think just releasing a 4S is doing that. I'm currently planning to sell my 4 and buy the next iPhone but I probably won't if it isn't redesigned. For me to buy a 4S it would have to have any one of these features,
-Bigger Screen
-4G LTE
-a very good camera
 
I'm very confident about a redesign, mostly because of Apple's new Photo Stream iPhone icon. It's just a little hint, but it's from Apple and directed at nuts like us.

Also, and I don't know if this had been brought up before, doesn't the whole discussion about the redesign (larger screen, longer home button etc.) remind you of this alleged iPhone (4?) mockup from a few months ago?

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Even though it is very Android-ish in build. That quality is still of Apple which makes that phone sexy as hell.

That's the problem with Android, they have some cool looking phones, but the build quality is even half way to the standard of Apple's in terms of stability and design.
 
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