I haven't read through this thread so I hope no-one said "Make it THINNER" 
Because it's already thin enough.
Because it's already thin enough.
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I now had the time to run a benchmark on my rMBP and got 19.92 Gb/sec.
The mobile CPUS do not have QPI, rather the memory is directly connected to CPU's memory controller, I guess with FSB he refers to its performance. I am also puzzled to where the 16,384 MB/s number comes from, but running a single-threaded memory copy benchmarks results in 15097.9 Mb/s for me, which is awfully close to that number. Maybe its a limit a single thread can push? The 25.6 GB/sec is the total available bandwidth. If I have time on the weekend, I will throw together a quick and dirty benchmark using memcpy which tries to measure the total bandwidth over multiple threads.
I believe but am not sure that one thread cannot push all the available bandwidth. Wasn't exactly sure about QPI and memory.
15 GB/sec cannot come close to limiting a single core as even a massive i7 @ 4 ghz is only minimally affected by memory speed, let alone what one thread can do so i'm not sure about the relevance of the test.
You are right, but what I mean is that a single thread is unlikely to efficiently utilise the dual-channel RAM. So in the end its not the CPU which is the limiting factor but rather the memory controller/physical RAM allocation etc. My knowledge about the modern architecture is very basic though.
What kind of shops you have over there in the UK? It's 2013
A dual answer to both.
On that link you sent to NewEgg which is a USA based shop with plenty of range so not restricting it to UK.
You said you see 5 SSD on the first page. I only see 1 but that could just be timing of how they are ordered ad search terms etc. So lets take all of the laptops as a sample.
There are 1175 laptops listed total. Of those 95 have SSD's in them (105 total minus 10 apple laptops.). That is 8% a very small number.
92% of all the non Apple laptops on New Egg do not have any kind of SSD at all. 92%
If PCs are launching products and are going head to head with Apple for all flash storage they need to be looking at drives of 500gb or higher (or at the very least 256). Of all the 1175 laptops on New Egg only 1 has an SSD of 500gb or greater. Thats 0.0008% (its a Dell XPS 15 = 512, and 2 if you count the $3,700 HP elistebook which is 256gb but its dual raid 0 = 0.001% ).
So statements - from New Egg Analysis:
PC notebooks generally do not come with an SSD = 92% don't
PC notebooks hardly ever put in an SSD greater than 128gb = 0.1% do
PC notebooks almost never come with an SSD that competes with apples rMBP 500gb capacity= 0.001% do
So I'd say in general across the market PC manufacturers are really not competing on the SSD front. I think they should because it would push apple, for better random 4k speeds etc . But they are not. If high end windows laptop makers started lashing in 500gb Samsung Evo drives left right and centre apple would have to respond.
Come on you should at least compare equal notebooks.
The highend Samsung 9, Asus Zenbook, Kirabook, some Sonys all come with SSD only. In some you can have both if they sell in cheaper price brackets too in some configs.
You cannot just compare any notebook out there. Especially in the very cheapo lineup people tend to prefer big GB number and rarely have a clue or give anything about SSDs. They want to be sure all their stuff fits without having to lay out even more money for external solutions to fit pictures. Somebody who aims for a $1200+ won't care much but if you aim for a $500 notebook an external hdd is an investment too.
Even with Apple the big SSD sizes you only get when you go BTO on the Apple website. Not the ones listed on newegg usually. A few Windows notebooks allow configurations on the website like Sony.
The highend Samsung 9, Asus Zenbook, Kirabook, some Sonys all come with SSD only. In some you can have both if they sell in cheaper price brackets too in some configs.
You cannot just compare any notebook out there. Especially in the very cheapo lineup people tend to prefer big GB number and rarely have a clue or give anything about SSDs. They want to be sure all their stuff fits without having to lay out even more money for external solutions to fit pictures. Somebody who aims for a $1200+ won't care much but if you aim for a $500 notebook an external hdd is an investment too.
Even with Apple the big SSD sizes you only get when you go BTO on the Apple website. Not the ones listed on newegg usually. A few Windows notebooks allow configurations on the website like Sony.
You completely missed this
MBA form factor and $700+
Do you really expect a $450 notebook to have a SSD?
I hope for even lighter design and slimmer screen bezel with NO camera, it is such a useless camera, they should include a bluetooth camera or something to sit on a surface rather than embedded into the screen bezel taking up so much room! The trackpad should be flush with NO clicking mechanism, that sound drives me bonkers. The current designs are still bulky and with too many ports. I now prefer less ports and more dongle options.