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iPhone 13 Pro How do you all backup?

Gix1k said:
Not sure it was answered yet, but say I go buy a new iPhone now, will an iCloud restore put my phone back to exactly how this one is, apps, order, content, etc? The local restore does this.
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Yes, I restore from iCloud backup and all my apps show up identically to my old phone.
Gix1k said:
Another question, if I upload all my pics and vids to iCloud will they appear on my daughters phone or just my Mac and iPad, ATV? I have her sharing iCloud storage, but her phone has its own Apple ID.
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We have a family sharing plan for iCloud. My hubby and and I use the same Apple ID so that all our photos sync. My son uses his own Apple ID so his backup shares our cloud plan but his photos, videos, etc do not share onto our phones.
 
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kanga1622 said:
Yes, I restore from iCloud backup and all my apps show up identically to my old phone.

We have a family sharing plan for iCloud. My hubby and and I use the same Apple ID so that all our photos sync. My son uses his own Apple ID so his backup shares our cloud plan but his photos, videos, etc do not share onto our phones.
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Wonderful! I was a bit worried 😧
 
now i see it said:
If you end up on the wrong side of the law in a serious way, the first thing law enforcement does is serve a warrant for your iCloud data which Apple gladly gives to them. They can then clone your latest iCloud backup in to an iPhone test mule and have an exact copy of whatever was on your phone at the time of your last backup. Everything. Warrants are served for iCloud data thousands of times every year. And Apple complies.

You might think you’re backing up your iPhone to Apple’s iCloud, but in reality you’re backing up all your data, unencrypted and wide open, to what essentially is FBI servers.
If you’re fine with that, then that’s fine… but it’s best to know beforehand.
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It's not even a warrant. The LEOs would need a warrant to search you and your possessions for whatever they want. But as your data in the cloud is owned by the people running the cloud service (the data resides on their servers), they are 3rd party to any investigation, so a simple subpoena is all that is needed. And what sucks more: that subpoena to get your data doesn't violate any privacy rights you have.

BL.
 
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bradl said:
It's not even a warrant. The LEOs would need a warrant to search you and your possessions for whatever they want. But as your data in the cloud is owned by the people running the cloud service (the data resides on their servers), they are 3rd party to any investigation, so a simple subpoena is all that is needed. And what sucks more: that subpoena to get your data doesn't violate any privacy rights you have.

BL.
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So buy a throwaway phone if you plan to break the law.
 
Gix1k said:
I guess I’m old school and always backed up locally using iTunes before there was an iCloud….when 64gb was the max phone size. Now as we have 512gb phones doing local backups is almost impossible on say a 500gb Mac.
I started looking and saw the $9.99 2Tb iCloud storage. Does a restore from there work the same way as a local restore when you get a new phone? Apps, settings, etc? You all trust your data out there? I know Apple praises their security, but “the fappening” was a big deal.
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For what it's worth, you can move where your iPhone backs up to on your local machine by linking your MobileSync directory to an external drive. I have mine linked to a NAS.

I find it maddening that this isn't just a setting somewhere though.
 
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Analog Kid said:
For what it's worth, you can move where your iPhone backs up to on your local machine by linking your MobileSync directory to an external drive. I have mine linked to a NAS.

I find it maddening that this isn't just a setting somewhere though.
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I did not know this. I looked many times to find a way to have it backup to an external drive and wasn’t able to find it. I’d much rather do that. However, just put all my data in the air.
 
i use icloud for everything EXCEPT messages and photos..

i use local backup (encrypted) through itunes for photos and everything else .
 
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aue123 said:
i use icloud for everything EXCEPT messages and photos..

i use local backup (encrypted) through itunes for photos and everything else .
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Those are the two biggest things to backup on my phone.
 
I only back up when there’s a new version of iOS to update. When I do, I’ll back up with iTunes (on my MBP that’s on Mojave). I do backup my WhatsApp to iCloud Drive once a week.

Not a fan of backing up the entire content to iCloud because I faced a situation where there was an issue even restoring my iPhone from an iCloud backup. This was many years ago. Since then I keep my hands off iCloud backup.
 
Mac and the backup file is mirrored to my 2TB cloud (not iCloud) storage. My photos and videos automatically backup when on wifi (I can change this). I use iCloud for safari and keychain that’s it.
 
now i see it said:
If you end up on the wrong side of the law in a serious way, the first thing law enforcement does is serve a warrant for your iCloud data which Apple gladly gives to them. They can then clone your latest iCloud backup in to an iPhone test mule and have an exact copy of whatever was on your phone at the time of your last backup. Everything. Warrants are served for iCloud data thousands of times every year. And Apple complies.

You might think you’re backing up your iPhone to Apple’s iCloud, but in reality you’re backing up all your data, unencrypted and wide open, to what essentially is FBI servers.
If you’re fine with that, then that’s fine… but it’s best to know beforehand.
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This serious?

Of course Apple "complies", firstly there is no "declining" a warrant. The warrant issued by the judge gives law enforcement the legal right to enter the property and find the evidence they seek regardless of your wishes. Somehow preventing law enforcement from searching or obtaining what they are after will just result in you going to jail for obstruction. Then they will just start grabbing servers off the racks until they find what they are looking for.

Apple complies because its less detrimental to their business. If the FBI has a warrant it makes more sense to email the data or put it on a thumb drive vs the FBI having to find it on Apples servers themselves...

If it was essentially FBI servers then they wouldn't need to get so many warrants now would they?

I guess you are assuming your data is safe because its on your phone (you know the device that is connected to the internet and directly to Apple servers 24 hours a day)? No way anyone is getting that!
 
Gix1k said:
Another question, if I upload all my pics and vids to iCloud will they appear on my daughters phone or just my Mac and iPad, ATV? I have her sharing iCloud storage, but her phone has its own Apple ID.
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Only pictures in shared album will be visible for your daughter.

Frank
 
Frankras said:
Can I ask what you use to encrypt your data on Google drive with ?

Frank
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TrueNAS CORE has a built in Cloud Sync task to sync to any number of cloud service providers, which will encrypt in transit and has an option to encrypt at rest. You can even encrypt the filenames.

TrueNAS CORE (FreeBSD based) and SCALE (Debian based, but still in beta development) are open source and will run on almost any 64-bit x86 hardware. Great if you have an older PC or OEM NAS you can repurpose.

Cloud Sync Tasks |

Cloud Sync Tasks
www.truenas.com www.truenas.com


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Gix1k said:
Not sure it was answered yet, but say I go buy a new iPhone now, will an iCloud restore put my phone back to exactly how this one is, apps, order, content, etc? The local restore does this.
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No, paraphrasing. . . Apple says iCloud Backup backs up the most important. When you get new iPhone you can migrate your old iPhone, as long as it’s not too old, data to your new one. It’s close to 100% of everything, still have to re-enter some passwords and setup Apple Pay. I think iTunes/Finder backup and restore (local restore) is very similar to device to device migration, more complete than iCloud backup.
 
elvisimprsntr said:
TrueNAS CORE has a built in Cloud Sync task to sync to any number of cloud service providers, which will encrypt in transit and has an option to encrypt at rest. You can even encrypt the filenames.

TrueNAS CORE (FreeBSD based) and SCALE (Debian based, but still in beta development) are open source and will run on almost any 64-bit x86 hardware. Great if you have an older PC or OEM NAS you can repurpose.

Cloud Sync Tasks |

Cloud Sync Tasks
www.truenas.com www.truenas.com


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Nice, but unfortunately I do not have an old pc to spare to this project.

Right now I use Tresorit (as long I can get a discount) paying full price is to expensive. That’s why I’m looking for other ways to backup, beside my extern hard drive.

Frank
 
Gix1k said:
I guess I’m old school and always backed up locally using iTunes before there was an iCloud….when 64gb was the max phone size. Now as we have 512gb phones doing local backups is almost impossible on say a 500gb Mac.
I started looking and saw the $9.99 2Tb iCloud storage. Does a restore from there work the same way as a local restore when you get a new phone? Apps, settings, etc? You all trust your data out there? I know Apple praises their security, but “the fappening” was a big deal.
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Technically, I don't back up at all…I don't need to.

Email: IMAP - all accounts. Everything sits on the IMAP server.
Contacts: Google, stored on Google.
Calendars: Google, stored on Google.
Photos/Videos: Automatic upload to Dropbox. I have 3TB with Dropbox. I pay for this, but not because of iPhone. I store all my Mac backups in Dropbox (sparse disk images). Periodically, the Camera Uploads folder is dumped to a local hard drive…which is backed up to Dropbox. Also, Google One, which I have, backs up my photos/videos too.
Messages: iMessages are on iCloud, SMS is with the provider/iPhone. The thing here is that I really don't give a s**t about backing this stuff up. NOTHING that has ANY importance/sensitivity is discussed via messaging. It is discussed face to face in person with those involved. Or a phone call is made to that person. Any important photos sent back and forth are saved to the device and then…automatically uploaded to Dropbox.
App Data: All app data is turned off for iCloud backup, except for a few apps. I don't use many apps, but I can always reinstall.

I do use iCloud backup, but that's mainly to make it easy to put back the apps that are on my phone as well as iOS settings. Right now I'm at about 2.5GB of the 5GB free storage Apple gives you. That's mainly because of iMessage.

I could lose everything on my iPhone (except for messages) and put it all back just by reconnecting to my services (Google/Dropbox). I do not use iCloud photos or their file system. Again, I don't care about messages.
 
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Frankras said:
Nice, but unfortunately I do not have an old pc to spare to this project.

Right now I use Tresorit (as long I can get a discount) paying full price is to expensive. That’s why I’m looking for other ways to backup, beside my extern hard drive.

Frank
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You can always search donation centers, pick up a used machine off eBay, garage sales or independent computer repair shops. Just research HW compatibility with TrueNAS
 
This thread reminds me of another one when I was talking about the importance of having offsite backups because of fire, theft, natural disasters, etc and one person insisted none of those would ever happen to them. :rolleyes:
 
MisterSavage said:
This thread reminds me of another one when I was talking about the importance of having offsite backups because of fire, theft, natural disasters, etc and one person insisted none of those would ever happen to them. :rolleyes:
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Sounds about right.

I periodically back up my phone to my laptop, and then laptop to a server in my home.
 
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