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I've always been on Android...I've never been against iOS, but like many iOS users I just got used to my Android OS and stuck with it. As an Android user I'm happy that the iPhone has pushed the manufacturers to raise the bar year after year on my OS. As an iOS user, there's some things that you could surely thank Android and it's manufacturers for as far as evolving the iPhone is concerned. If for some reason I had to have this conversation with someone in real life, that's what I'd tell them...I'd say they both make each other better and competition only results in a win for the consumer.
I agree. I use both and there are things I like better on Android and things I like better on iOS. Neither OS is perfect. I never get into arguments about which is better since it's basically just a matter of preference.
 
My reply:
"Good for you. I can deal with Apple because I don't have a small d1*k."

That is when many of the Android users get all huffy and the fun begins! :D

And if I were to say, for example..

"Well you iPhone users are just so used to holding small things in your hands that the new bigger models intimidate you."

How stupid and immature does that sound? Bout the same, no?
 
I've learned in the last couple of days that people are just about as stubborn about their technology/phone preferences as something like religion. I +1 what many others have already said, ignore them. The sales numbers of the 6/6+ will speak for themselves.

Also, as a business minded person, I think WAY too many people lose sight of the fact that competition is a good thing for everyone.
 
looked like Bank of America and Wells Fargo were pretty prominent on the demo phones when people were demonstrating ApplePay...

So basically less then you can support on Google Wallet? And it appears the stores you can use ApplePay are the same ones you can use Google Wallet. Hmm..

As far as security Google Wallet has host card emulation with dynamically rotating credentials. Sound familiar? And of course the standard secure socket layer.

Apple seems to have a extra layer of security Google doesn't have but both are already way ahead of swiping a credit card which the VAST majority of people still do...pretty much everyone.

However Google Wallet offers fraud protection which covers ANYTHING in Google Wallet 100% (credit, debit, Google Wallet balance, Google Play, Paypal, etc).

So they both have pros and cons.

I still find it amazing NFC went from a gimmick to the next big thing overnight. People went from saying no place around them supports it to they won't be able to live without it. The soda machine at the college I attended 3 years ago took NFC payments from Google Wallet lol...
 
So basically less then you can support on Google Wallet? And it appears the stores you can use ApplePay are the same ones you can use Google Wallet. Hmm..

Sorry, I was just answering the question...those are just two I remember seeing in videos that would be considered a major partner. Obviously there will be more..

I don't use NFC to pay for anything and I doubt I would if I get the i6+..I know very little about what goes into it since I don't use it.
 
Define "major partners" please.
American Express, MasterCard, Visa, Bank of America, Capital One, Chase, Citi, Wells Fargo.

Macy's, McDonald's, Staples, Subway, Toys'R'Us, Walgreens, Whole Foods.

They definitely need more retailers on board (Target, Walmart, Best Buy, etc) but the presence of the above prevents Apple Pay from being a complete non-starter and I reckon Apple is actively wooing merchants to utilize their payment systems.

I have credit cards with built in NFC and I use it when possible. When Google Wallet was initially released, I think they only supported Citi or something and it was pretty much just a beta. I never really revisited Google Wallet on mobile phones after that.
 
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I had a Nexus 4 for a year. Upgraded to the Nexus 5. Can't wait to get back to iOS. Android is still so clunky, laggy, unresponsive, and unstable compared to what I remember from my 4S. I only switched because I was bored and wanted customization. I'm over that now and just want a good phone.


if you want a good phone you'll need to spend the $$$.


You are comparing a $200 phone to a $600 one. try getting a htc one, or a lg g3 or the new moto x for a change...


regardless, the nexus 5 might have its shortcomings but lag is not one of them. i wonder what "customisations" you put in place to render it unstable.




in any event, to each his own. my whole family uses iphones and i prefer android.


what i just find comical is how apple tries to sell people the idea of a "revolutionary" product when it uses technology that has been around for a while. whether it actually runs smoother, integrates better or what not is another story.
 
Now that the iPhone 6 and 6+ have been announced, all these Android users want to brag about how their phone had it first.

Applepay copied Google Wallet.
Reachability? Had that for months.
Wi-Fi Calling? Had that for months too.

Then they show me stupid pictures like this.

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Like I seriously don't care what features their phone had first. How do you deal with this stupidity?

One critical life skill is to choose your battles. It's a phone, not your mother. Walk away, enjoy your device and go about your business.
 
what i just find comical is how apple tries to sell people the idea of a "revolutionary" product when it uses technology that has been around for a while. whether it actually runs smoother, integrates better or what not is another story.
Lol, that's true. I had quite a number of eyeroll moments when they were talking about 3rd party keyboards, wifi calling, etc. :rolleyes:
 
The answer is…

Wait for it…

Who cares, it's a phone. Unless you are in middle school, this is the type of insecurity you should have long outgrown. ;)
 
if you want a good phone you'll need to spend the $$$.


You are comparing a $200 phone to a $600 one. try getting a htc one, or a lg g3 or the new moto x for a change...

I had a Moto X. It wasn't much of an upgrade over my Nexus 5. Definitely not worth the price increase.


regardless, the nexus 5 might have its shortcomings but lag is not one of them. i wonder what "customisations" you put in place to render it unstable.

I've tried everything. Stock android (4.2-L), Cyanogen, PA, Pac Man, AOKP, Stock + root, stock + exposed framework and gravity box. Android just is not as smooth. I see frames drop, overall lag, unresponsive touch, apps crash, animations taking forever to start, and random quirks all over the OS such as lock screen doesn't display the right song when playing music from the Google Music App, keyboard (stock, kii, swiftkey, fleksy) still staying up even when I go to the home screen and am no longer in a text field, youtube videos stop playing whenever apps update, etc. Android has so many quirks and just feels extremely unpolished.

Granted, I haven't used iOS since iOS 6 on my 4S before I got my Nexus 4. But from my experience, iOS 6 was smoother on old hardware than any of my Nexus devices running the latest OS.


in any event, to each his own. my whole family uses iphones and i prefer android.

Yes, everyone has their own preferences. To be fair, I am not sure iOS 8 is my preference. I haven't used it, didn't have much experience with iOS 7. I could use it when I get my iPhone and absolutely hate it and go back to Android. But right now I do not expect that will happen.


what i just find comical is how apple tries to sell people the idea of a "revolutionary" product when it uses technology that has been around for a while. whether it actually runs smoother, integrates better or what not is another story.

This year something hit me, Apple doesn't really try and sell hardware. This year more than any other they really pushed how well the software and hardware works together. And from what I've seen and heard, it seems they are right. With Android, the hardware and software never go as well together as on an Apple device.
 
You take a step back, breathe, and realize this is all over a phone....I would say dont worry about it, and go about life and enjoy your day. Theres no need to deal with anyone, it's a phone. :D

You and I don't think the same at all...


I say declare phone war on them.
 
Now that the iPhone 6 and 6+ have been announced, all these Android users want to brag about how their phone had it first.

Applepay copied Google Wallet.
Reachability? Had that for months.
Wi-Fi Calling? Had that for months too.

Then they show me stupid pictures like this.

Image

Like I seriously don't care what features their phone had first. How do you deal with this stupidity?
Why deal with it? What does it have to do with you?
 
How do you deal with them?

You leave them to it. They're fans of android and are defending their chosen platform. Just as Apple fans do with apple.

I don't get the issue. Some people like android. Some like iOS. Some like windows. Some like blackberry. Some like old nokia's that aren't even smartphones.

It doesn't matter what phone had what features and who had it first. What matters is that you personally buy the phone that is best for you and in doing so realise that that phone won't be the best for everyone.
 
How do you deal with them?

You leave them to it. They're fans of android and are defending their chosen platform. Just as Apple fans do with apple.

I don't get the issue. Some people like android. Some like iOS. Some like windows. Some like blackberry. Some like old nokia's that aren't even smartphones.

It doesn't matter what phone had what features and who had it first. What matters is that you personally buy the phone that is best for you and in doing so realise that that phone won't be the best for everyone.

No it's really all in how you say it. Being an apple fan I would defend apple. But not if people are just respectfully telling their opinions. Like today at school. Today some guy I don't even know the name of is in my math class. I think my apple shirt gave away the message i like apple. Any way he came over to me and told me his reasons for liking android reasons for disliking iOS. I have mine. Everyone walks away happy.
 
Around me, it seems most Android users will often pontificate how superior their phone is to the iPhone.

To this day, I'm still not sure why it's so ingrained into Android users to continuously tout their phone's superiority, since iPhone users, in general, are completely indifferent to Android.
 
Funny, I used to have a Nexus 4. Had NO idea it had NFC payments and never saw anyone actually use it in public. I wouldn't even know how to initiate it. Somehow, I don't think this will be the case with Apple Pay, Apple is implementing it correctly.
 
There's only a few options...it all depends on how much you care, and you do care. Let's be honest. This thread is because you care enough that you want a rebuttal for when the subject arises.

If you really want something to say, you tell them that they're right. Telling them what Apple had before them isn't going to help. Telling them that Apple "does it better" is pretentious.

I've always been on Android...I've never been against iOS, but like many iOS users I just got used to my Android OS and stuck with it. As an Android user I'm happy that the iPhone has pushed the manufacturers to raise the bar year after year on my OS. As an iOS user, there's some things that you could surely thank Android and it's manufacturers for as far as evolving the iPhone is concerned. If for some reason I had to have this conversation with someone in real life, that's what I'd tell them...I'd say they both make each other better and competition only results in a win for the consumer.

Your post is on point 100%, well said. Competition is definitely a win win for the consumer. What fun would it be if only one smartphone manufacturer just dominated the market. I'm surprised the situation to discuss this in real life hasn't arose for you yet.

Funny, I used to have a Nexus 4. Had NO idea it had NFC payments and never saw anyone actually use it in public. I wouldn't even know how to initiate it. Somehow, I don't think this will be the case with Apple Pay, Apple is implementing it correctly.

Totally agree. They'll say "my phone has had google wallet since 2011" and when you ask them how do they like it, they'll blankly stare at you because they haven't actually used it before. Apple is doing something right with Applepay and Carplay for sure.
 
i meant the *new* moto x


and when i jailbroke my iphone and installed winterspring onto it or whatever it was called i experienced all the stuff you described above too.

You might not know this, but the New Moto X wasn't out when the Nexus 5 came out ;)

The difference is, all of that stuff happens on stock Android as well.

Totally agree. They'll say "my phone has had google wallet since 2011" and when you ask them how do they like it, they'll blankly stare at you because they haven't actually used it before. Apple is doing something right with Applepay and Carplay for sure.
Implementation is so important. And really knowledge of the system is as well. Whenever I used my Nexus 4 or 5 to pay at Whataburger, the employee would just stare at me as I touched my phone to the terminal. They had no idea what was going on. I kept asking "did you get it?" and they were like "get what? You didn't do anything." I spent so much time telling them what was going on and waiting for them to talk to managers. It would have been 20 times faster just to get my card out of my wallet! And this is 3 years after NFC payments in Android has been out and available!

Something tells me this won't be the case with Apple Pay.

The worst part is that Android users actually think Google coming out with it first means its better. Far from it. Implementation is key.
 
I simply wouldn't reply to the trolls. However, I would think to myself..."enjoy your phone that looks and feels like it was purchased on sale at your local Family Dollar, while I use what looks and feels like a phone purchased on Rodeo Drive."

Some recognize class, and some don't.
 
Around me, it seems most Android users will often pontificate how superior their phone is to the iPhone.

To this day, I'm still not sure why it's so ingrained into Android users to continuously tout their phone's superiority, since iPhone users, in general, are completely indifferent to Android.

You think this is bad? Visit an Android forum and deal with the rabid Apple fans doing the same thing especially around launch time. Its like this 10x. Only difference is there is not Alternative section so mods can/will immediately delete these threads and ban the thread starter. I wish they would do that here too.

Don't know what you are on about segregating Android users as iPhone users are just as bad (same with anything xbox guys on a playstation forum, chevy guys on a ford forum, glock guys on a springfield forum, anything if it has a competing product).

BTW, when you say "around me" do you mean in real life? Thats typically a conversation that needs to be initiated and maintained (any conversation like that). It doesn't just start from an Android user approaching you on the street and saying "Yo! My phones better then your phone. Your phone is whack bro!". The conversation lead to that point through counter argument (you saying the opposite and in this case your iphone is better). So there is someone on another forum that is posting the same thing you did but with iPhone in place of Android and referring to you. Weeeiiirrrddd right?! :D
 
The only thing that I find funny is the iPhone 6 will be on current iOS8 software, that Nexus from 2012 is probably 3 OS releases behind current, what would that be, Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwich, or was it Carmel Apple, ah hell, I can't keep track of what Android is calling itself these days... :D

Actually, the Nexus 4 is on the latest and greatest version of KitKat. But I think it is cute you like to make fun of the versions of Android.
 

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