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What is the difference in water boiled in a kettle and water boiled in a microwave? And for those of you who poopoo the latter, have you ever tried it for your tea?

Actually, I don't even have a microwave; not only do I not use it for tea (or heating water), I don't use one for food. Having said that, I know people who swear by them (and the convenience they offer).

For myself, I prefer to cook properly, or, failing that, have a cold platter instead.
 
I've just always wondered as so many people make anguished faces when you suggest boiling your water in the microwave. I would do it that way if I didn't have a more traditional method, but I don't see what differentiates one method of boiling from the other.
 
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Recently on a cruise, we've been hitting High Tea from 4-5pm. Warm scones, strawberry jam, and clotted cream, to die for, along with dainty sandwiches and deserts. :)

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Although I mostly drink coffee and on occasion (as I describe it) run-of-the-mill tea at home, (the Lipton Tea brand comes to mind). Looking through the tea menu aboard ship, Capt Picard came into focus when I spotted Earl Grey on the list which I promptly ordered "hot". The server did not get it. And... what a treat! Heavy with a floral fragrance, it almost reminds me of a medicinal health drink. What was that flavor? I had to google it. Of note, I've had teas described as "orange" but never like this. I'll have to see how much this costs when I get back home. :D Can I assume there are different grades? Waiting on @Scepticalscribe. Anyone feel free. ;)

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  1. Earl Grey tea is a tea blend with a distinctive citrus flavour and aroma derived from the addition of oil extracted from the rind of the bergamot orange, a fragrant citrus fruit. Traditionally, the term "Earl Grey" has applied only to black teas that contain oil of bergamot (orange) as a flavouring.
 
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Recently on a cruise, we've been hitting High Tea from 4-5pm. Warm scones, strawberry jam, and clotted cream, to die for, along with dainty sandwiches and deserts. :)

HIgh-Tea.jpg

Although I mostly drink coffee and on occasion (as I describe it) run-of-the-mill tea at home, (the Lipton Tea brand comes to mind). Looking through the tea menu aboard ship, Capt Picard came into focus when I spotted Earl Grey on the list which I promptly ordered "hot". The server did not get it. And... what a treat! Heavy with a floral fragrance, it almost reminds me of a medicinal health drink. What was that flavor? I had to google it. Of note, I've had teas described as "orange" but never like this. I'll have to see how much this costs when I get back home. :D Can I assume there are different grades? Waiting on @Scepticalscribe. Anyone feel free. ;)

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  1. Earl Grey tea is a tea blend with a distinctive citrus flavour and aroma derived from the addition of oil extracted from the rind of the bergamot orange, a fragrant citrus fruit. Traditionally, the term "Earl Grey" has applied only to black teas that contain oil of bergamot (orange) as a flavouring.

That afternoon tea looks absolutely divine, and I imagine that it was delicious.

Occasionally, as a treat, just a few times a year, I will meet a friend for afternoon tea in one of those old style up market, relatively luxurious, pretty plush hotels that date from the Victorian era.

Oddly enough, the friends with whom I have these teas tend to be older male friends, guys who used to be colleagues, - sometimes, in strange places, - and who also enjoy a bit of luxurious pampering. Afternoon tea makes a welcome - if slightly incongruous - occasional change from meeting in a pub, or restaurant, and can be every bit as enjoyable.

Their afternoon teas tend to be superb. Personally, I tend to order coffee with my afternoon tea, rather than tea, sacrilege, I know, but there you are.

On the topic of Earl Grey, I do know that some who really like tea (the way I like coffee) tend to take Earl Grey black (rather than with added milk). Anyway, it is a distinct, specific, subtle, taste, highly prized by tea lovers.

Re grades, - especially grades of Earl Grey, which I imagine could vary hugely in quality - my instinct would be to stay well clear of the obvious commercial brands, as some of their offerings can be of a pretty poor quality.

Personally, I like to try to source tea (and coffee for that matter) from specialists, those who actually care about the quality of the product that they sell. Almost invariably, this will mean paying a bit more, but I usually find that this is well worth the price difference.


 
That afternoon tea looks absolutely divine, and I imagine that it was delicious.

Occasionally, as a treat, just a few times a year, I will meet a friend for afternoon tea in one of those old style up market, relatively luxurious, pretty plush hotels that date from the Victorian era.

Oddly enough, the friends with whom I have these teas tend to be older male friends, guys who used to be colleagues, - sometimes, in strange places, - and who also enjoy a bit of luxurious pampering. Afternoon tea makes a welcome - if slightly incongruous - occasional change from meeting in a pub, or restaurant, and can be every bit as enjoyable.

Their afternoon teas tend to be superb. Personally, I tend to order coffee with my afternoon tea, rather than tea, sacrilege, I know, but there you are.

On the topic of Earl Grey, I do know that some who really like tea (the way I like coffee) tend to take Earl Grey black (rather than with added milk). Anyway, it is a distinct, specific, subtle, taste, highly prized by tea lovers.

Re grades, - especially grades of Earl Grey, which I imagine could vary hugely in quality - my instinct would be to stay well clear of the obvious commercial brands, as some of their offerings can be of a pretty poor quality.

Personally, I like to try to source tea (and coffee for that matter) from specialists, those who actually care about the quality of the product that they sell. Almost invariably, this will mean paying a bit more, but I usually find that this is well worth the price difference.

Thanks for the info. :) Although I ordered Earl Grey, I discovered they actually served me Lady Grey which is described as a subtler blend. It comes from a tin, not bagged. I've been drinking it without milk. And I'll fess up, that's just a pic I snagged off the net, too drunk on tea to take my own. ;)
 
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Thanks for the info. :) Although I ordered Earl Grey, I discovered they actually served me Lady Grey which is described as a subtler blend. It comes from a tin, not bagged. I've been drinking it without milk. And I'll fess up, that's just a pic I snagged off the net, too drunk on tea to take my own. ;)

Yes, I was reading about the 'Lady Grey' blend, which is supposed to be a bit more subtle than its sibling blend.

Moreover, I'd agree that tea from a tin would usually come with somewhat higher - and better - production values - than tea from a a packet, or, perish the thought, teabags (without in any way taking away for the sheer convenience afforded by the latter).

Enjoy your 'Tea. Earl Grey. Hot'.
 
I drink it plain. Sometimes I pour off the first steeping and times I don't bother.
 
Yorkshire, with the red label. Loose tea, steeped 5 minutes in the mug, with a bit of milk & a packet of pseudo-psugar
 
That does look wonderful. I firmly believe that everyone should pause for high tea every day. While I love my tea, and prepare loose leaf on a daily basis, I will not touch Earl Grey. I've never understood its popularity beyond what Jean-Luc Picard brought it.

And Twinings, @Tech198? Are you even drinking it hot? ;)
 
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That does look wonderful. I firmly believe that everyone should pause for high tea every day

I agree that looks great but it brings back amusing memories for me of some near-rebellions against "high tea" from when I was a kid.

One of my uncles used to sail from a club near NYC. His crew were generally late-teens children. The kids were all experiencd sailors and only needed a bit of guidance when first learning to deal wtih the larger booms and sails on a yawl. Their own sailboats were far smaller and their chow routines apparently pretty informal, with substantial roundups of stuff like burgers and fries, plenty of beer.

So you can imagine their initial reaction when my aunt would emerge from the galley of this yawl to lay out her usual “high floating tea” involving delicate little cucumber sandwiches with crusts cut off, and similar ornaments. Oy vey. Near mutiny would ensue.

My siblings and I were of a mind with those crews. We learned to stash “real” food in our duffel bags when we were invited to spend parts of a summer aboard. We also learned to re-stock in local shops along the coast whenever we had a chance. I liked cucumber sandwiches but my idea of one was something a butterfly could not knock off a plate.

My tea drinking is pretty simple: green, hot and plain. Black, hot with milk. In the summer, strong and cheap (teabagged) with lots of lemon juice. NO SUGAR EVER in my tea!

The occasional high tea I bump into these days once in awhile puts a smile on my face, just remembering those teenagers in my unce's sailing crews, staring dumbfounded at dollhouse-sized sandwiches and tiny peach tarts or whatever after an afternoon of hauling heavy canvas sails and dodging the swing of the booms on that boat. Context is everything at tea time... :D
 
I agree that looks great but it brings back amusing memories for me of some near-rebellions against "high tea" from when I was a kid.

One of my uncles used to sail from a club near NYC. His crew were generally late-teens children. The kids were all experiencd sailors and only needed a bit of guidance when first learning to deal wtih the larger booms and sails on a yawl. Their own sailboats were far smaller and their chow routines apparently pretty informal, with substantial roundups of stuff like burgers and fries, plenty of beer.

So you can imagine their initial reaction when my aunt would emerge from the galley of this yawl to lay out her usual “high floating tea” involving delicate little cucumber sandwiches with crusts cut off, and similar ornaments. Oy vey. Near mutiny would ensue.

My siblings and I were of a mind with those crews. We learned to stash “real” food in our duffel bags when we were invited to spend parts of a summer aboard. We also learned to re-stock in local shops along the coast whenever we had a chance. I liked cucumber sandwiches but my idea of one was something a butterfly could not knock off a plate.

My tea drinking is pretty simple: green, hot and plain. Black, hot with milk. In the summer, strong and cheap (teabagged) with lots of lemon juice. NO SUGAR EVER in my tea!

The occasional high tea I bump into these days once in awhile puts a smile on my face, just remembering those teenagers in my unce's sailing crews, staring dumbfounded at dollhouse-sized sandwiches and tiny peach tarts or whatever after an afternoon of hauling heavy canvas sails and dodging the swing of the booms on that boat. Context is everything at tea time... :D

Oh, yes, agree completely: Context is everything re afternoon or high teas. Great post and very funny story, by the way.

These days, one of the two guys I fairly regularly have had high tea - or afternoon tea - with is a very left wing friend who used to be an elected representative for the Labour Party on the local city council.

Twenty years ago, we both taught in the Politics department, in our local university, and had similar views on a number of issues, some to do with teaching, others to do with politics. Actually, he is hilarious company.

Anyway, a few years ago, when he let slip over coffee with a slightly guilty giggle that he 'really loved the teas, and the coffees and the great service in posh hotels despite my political views about their owners', I thought to myself, in future, it is afternoon tea for the pair of us whenever we meet, plotting social and political change over the cucumber sandwiches and raspberry tarts and clotted cream. He loves it, and sees it as a rare treat.

My other companion for afternoon tea is a senior police officer with whom I have worked abroad in some of the strangest places on the planet, and who has since become a very good friend.

Sometimes we meet in restaurants for long, lingering alcoholic lunches; sometimes we meet for dinner. We also meet in pubs. And, yes, we have also done afternoon tea on a number of occasions in some of those wonderfully old world, classically elegant Victorian era hotels in the capital. Great fun.
 
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I agree that looks great but it brings back amusing memories for me of some near-rebellions against "high tea" from when I was a kid.

One of my uncles used to sail from a club near NYC. His crew were generally late-teens children. The kids were all experiencd sailors and only needed a bit of guidance when first learning to deal wtih the larger booms and sails on a yawl. Their own sailboats were far smaller and their chow routines apparently pretty informal, with substantial roundups of stuff like burgers and fries, plenty of beer.

So you can imagine their initial reaction when my aunt would emerge from the galley of this yawl to lay out her usual “high floating tea” involving delicate little cucumber sandwiches with crusts cut off, and similar ornaments. Oy vey. Near mutiny would ensue.

My siblings and I were of a mind with those crews. We learned to stash “real” food in our duffel bags when we were invited to spend parts of a summer aboard. We also learned to re-stock in local shops along the coast whenever we had a chance. I liked cucumber sandwiches but my idea of one was something a butterfly could not knock off a plate.

My tea drinking is pretty simple: green, hot and plain. Black, hot with milk. In the summer, strong and cheap (teabagged) with lots of lemon juice. NO SUGAR EVER in my tea!

The occasional high tea I bump into these days once in awhile puts a smile on my face, just remembering those teenagers in my unce's sailing crews, staring dumbfounded at dollhouse-sized sandwiches and tiny peach tarts or whatever after an afternoon of hauling heavy canvas sails and dodging the swing of the booms on that boat. Context is everything at tea time... :D

I have a sweet tooth and love all most everything lemon, except in my tea. I can't tolerate these additions, but bergamot oil found in Earl Grey and used in perfumes does not bother me. It is very different from plain black or green tea. I suppose in most cases it's a case of love or hate. :)
 
Anyway, a few years ago, when he let slip over coffee with a slightly guilty giggle that he 'really loved the teas, and the coffees and the great service in posh hotels despite my political views about their owners', I thought to myself, in future, it is afternoon tea for the pair of us whenever we meet, plotting social and political change over the cucumber sandwiches and raspberry tarts and clotted cream. He loves it, and sees it as a rare treat.

That's funny! And it does sound like delicious fun.

I have a sweet tooth and love all most everything lemon, except in my tea.

Lemon (except in tea) certainly does bring out my sweet tooth as well. Lemon curd on little tarts, lemon meringue pie and so forth...

I refuse to make these things because I'd overdose on "pre-leftovers" before serving dessert to friends.
 
I have a sweet tooth and love all most everything lemon, except in my tea. I can't tolerate these additions, but bergamot oil found in Earl Grey and used in perfumes does not bother me. It is very different from plain black or green tea. I suppose in most cases it's a case of love or hate. :)

That's funny! And it does sound like delicious fun.



Lemon (except in tea) certainly does bring out my sweet tooth as well. Lemon curd on little tarts, lemon meringue pie and so forth...

I refuse to make these things because I'd overdose on "pre-leftovers" before serving dessert to friends.

Another lemon lover, here. I cannot conceive of a lemon dish - or drink - that I dislike.

Even in tea (in summer) I'll have a slice of lemon. Most mornings, I'll have fresh lemon juice, and then a mixed juice of squeezed lemon, orange and grapefruit if I can lay hands on it. My glass of water almost always has (several) slices of lemon in it.

And if I see a lemon dessert, well, I might even consider forgoing the cheeseboard.
 
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Rarely drink plain black unless I blend it myself for a refreshing but malty tea that's light. Earl gray otherwise with my own addition of rose petals, corn flowers and anything else that tickles my fancy. Earl gray is quite diverse. The majority of store teas are perfumed with a very cheap oil of bergamot (low-grade) or a synthetic version but still edible. It being palatable is up for debate.

Lady Grey is a term trademarked by Twinings. The method of making the tea or the blend as it is, is not and has been done by other companies or master blenders. Lady Gray varies between two world. What Twinings sells which is like a flavorless darjeeling with citrus, mainly a pungent orange rind flavor. The issue is that Twinings can be whatever or it can be good. Their best teas are only sold in the UK out of their shops, never online. They also cost the same as if you would get from an independent shop that sources their teas from blenders.

Going back to something I posted a few weeks ago, I tried making Moroccan Mint using stevia extract powder (very sweet and not bitter) and some xylitol (very healthy stuff). Very good, but alas, it's still a treat every so often. During the winter I usually have tisanes, fruit and herbal based. You know, for that minuscule nutrient boost. There is an issue with many blenders adding tremendous amounts of spices to their teas.

Anyway, currently enjoying a nice spearmint and African honey bush blend I created for Christmas week. Warm and delicious.


Anyway, if having tea, I usually opt for nothing or a thin slice of lemon dipped in a few times, or the zest curl of a lemon. Never milk.

And if you must use cream or milk, tea first, sugar next if you take it, and then the dairy. Never the other way around or it's a disgusting mess no one wants to drink.
 
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