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Traditionally, teas have been graded not on the basis of taste, but on leaf size, the highest quality being something akin to Finest Tippy Golden Flowering Orange Pekoe. "Orange Pekoe" Tea alludes to a leaf grade, not to citrus fruit, such as that found in Earl Grey's oil of bergamot. Generally, it is assumed that the finer teas can be brewed without producing too many tannins, and the lowest grade, "fannings", or "dust" tend to produce a comparatively bitter brew, redolent of tannins.

Generally, fannings and dust tend to be used in tea bags, and to get the best tea, you need to buy it loose-- and brew it in a teapot.

A good deal of tea is blended to produce a specific flavor profile-- leaves from Assam, Darjeeling and Ceylon might be blended to produce East Frisian Breakfast, and sometimes the quality of the blends varies from producer to producer. So Fortnum and Mason might have different standards than say... Lipton.

And then there are single estate teas, which because of limited acreage and quality standards, are produced in woefully small quantities. Margaret's Hope, for instance, tends to be on the pricy side.

Of course, there is also markup. Teavana, a US shop, demands $160 per pound for some of its teas which might reasonably be priced for $40-$60 per pound elsewhere. Since tea is usually sold at auction, the wholesale price varies whereas many retailers prefer consistent pricing. Better to build in a massive markup and source quality teas than compete for the bargain shopper and have to reduce the quality to meet a price target?

Anyway-- my supplier has enough varieties at sensible prices that I can drink well through a drought without being shafted in the bargain.
 
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Traditionally, teas have been graded not on the basis of taste, but on leaf size. The highest quality being something akin to Finest Tippy Golden Flowering Orange Pekoe. "Orange Pekoe" Tea alludes to a leaf grade, not to citrus fruit, such as that found in Earl Grey. Generally, it is assumed that the finer teas can be brewed without producing too many tannins, and the lowest grade, "fannings", or "dust" tend to produce a comparatively bitter brew, redolent of tannins.

Generally, fannings and dust tend to be used in tea bags, and to get the best tea, you need to buy it loose-- and brew it in a teapot.

A good deal of tea is blended to produce a specific flavor profile-- leaves from Assam, Darjeeling and Ceylon might be blended to produce East Frisian Breakfast, and sometimes the quality of the blends varies from producer to producer. So Fortnum and Mason might have different standards than say... Lipton.

And then there are single estate teas, which because of limited acreage and quality standards, are produced in woefully small quantities. Margaret's Hope, for instance, tends to be on the pricy side.

Of course, there is also markup. Teavana, a US shop, demands $160 per pound for some of it's teas which might reasonably be priced for $40-$60 per pound elsewhere. Since tea is usually sold at auction, the wholesale price varies whereas many retailers prefer consistent pricing. Better to build in a massive markup and source quality teas than compete for the bargain shopper and have to reduce the quality to meat a price target?

Anyway-- my supplier has enough varieties at sensible prices that I can drink well through a drought without being shafted in the bargain.

Thanks for the info! :) Observing, not disagreeing ->Lipton is a household name in the States. I don't think it's considered a poor grade of tea, and I have yet to drink a bad cup of tea brewed from a tea bag. But I don't claim to be a tea connoisseur. :)
 
Thanks for the info! :) Observing, not disagreeing ->Lipton is a household name in the States. I don't think it's considered a poor grade of tea, and I have yet to drink a bad cup of tea brewed from a tea bag. But I don't claim to be a tea connoisseur. :)

Tea bags have their uses - they are convenient and they are fast. When time is pressing, they can fill a need. Likewise, for that exact reason, I always have one tin of pre-ground coffee handy for such purposes at home; while the purists may howl, I find it necessary for the days when I need to get out in a hurry to catch a train or plane, and haven't the time to potter around making a pot of really nice, freshly ground coffee.

Other than that, granted, tea made from leaves in a teapot, (a proper teapot made from porcelain or something equally good) will always taste better than tea made form teabags. Thanks for that excellent and most informative post, @jerwin.
 
PG Tips brewed from a tea bag

Wikipedia says

The company added "Tips" referring to the fact that only the tips (the top two leaves and bud) of the tea plants are used in the blend
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PG_Tips

(If you think that this practice of harvesting only the tips is wasteful, this is a picture of a tea bush. Lots of top leaves.)
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When I bought my house, I had one of those. Albeit the flowering varietal. Out it went.

High quality tea takes longer to steep and won't impart a tannin rich flavor. It can, depending on the variety, be steeped a few times.
 
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Teavana Perfectea maker, rock sugar (although may begin using stevia if it tastes similar in the tea), loose leaf tea or bust. Many of their teas aren't necessarily traditional but I do like the flavored loose leaf teas quite a bit. Or at least I hope I do since I bought over two pounds of it :cool:.
 
Noon coffee with a splash of Irish cream, and then evening tea (gotta watch out for that caffeine) with a splash of Irish cream.

A strong brew of Earl Grey works wonderfully.
 
Sounds spot on! Tea in a nice big mug. Not those little tea cups and saucers!

Cups and saucers have their place. Not least conferring a sense of occasional elegance to otherwise mundane lives.

Now, you couldn't contemplate facing the Dowager Countess for afternoon tea clutching anything else, could you?

But, in a domestic setting, nothing is more fitting than a fine mug for tea of coffee, I completely agree.
 
Cups and saucers have their place. Not least conferring a sense of occasional elegance to otherwise mundane lives.

I'm sure this is the American in me coming out, but I can find nothing "elegant" about tea. If I'm looking for an elegant drink, it's usually whiskey, served in an old fashioned bar glass.
 
I'm sure this is the American in me coming out, but I can find nothing "elegant" about tea. If I'm looking for an elegant drink, it's usually whiskey, served in an old fashioned bar glass.

Well, perhaps it is.

In any case, I am not American, I am from Europe, and I try to find elegance in how life is lived. This means that I can find elegance in coffee and tea when they are properly prepared and served. And, in turn, that means drinking the beverage from a proper cup, (or mug), something that has been made from porcelain, or pottery - but not ever plastic.

For that matter, I also find elegance in wine and beer and will not suffer to drink either from a plastic container - for that is so…….inelegant. And, as for whiskey, or cognac, only a proper glass will suffice…..to do otherwise is to profane the experience and the company in which you consume it.
 
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Well, perhaps it is.

In any case, I am not American, I am from Europe, and I try to find elegance in how life is lived. This means that I can find elegance in coffee and tea when they are properly prepared and served. And, in turn, that means drinking the beverage from a proper cup, (or mug), something that has been made from porcelain, or pottery - but not ever plastic.

For that matter, I also find elegance in wine and beer and will not suffer to drink either from a plastic container - for that is so…….inelegant. And, as for whiskey, or cognac, only a proper glass will suffice…..to do otherwise is to profane the experience and the company in which you consume it.

Only some Americans have rigid ideas of elegance, etc.
 
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Only some Americans have rigid ideas of elegance, etc.


Actually, I have a horrid suspicion that some Americans seem to equate a preference for living a life which recognises, salutes and toasts elegance with an underhand assault on their masculine identity.

Myself, I like beautiful, well made objects, irrespective of whether they are antique well crafted wooden tables, exquisite maps, or - dare we say it - Apple computers. And I like when the mundane things that make up life, the quotidian, the everyday, are saluted with an elegance and respect for the occasion. Coffee pots and tea pots - if beautifully made - can really enhance one's enjoyment of something as basic, and normal as enjoying a cup of tea of coffee.

Yes, I drink coffee from mugs - most of the time (Le Creuset mugs, as it happens), but a well made, tasteful cup and saucer evokes its own story, and sipping from one, in a nice hotel or restaurant is a pleasure to be savoured. You wouldn't dream of contemplating serving afternoon tea in anything other than an elegant set of cups and saucers, along with matching spoons and plates.
 
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I always use saucers. Specifically a crafted set my wife acquired about a year into our marriage. Hand crafted with the lip part embedded with gold leaf. Exquisite and very nice. We generally use it for hot cocoa made from scratch or tea for us.

For anything bagged or chai related, mugs are a go to.


Wishing everyone a new year! I write this slightly inebriated with my shirt covered in baby barf. The joys are parenting. :p
Only some Americans have rigid ideas of elegance, etc.
Indeed. And yet I'm an American. Albeit, I was born overseas and taught at an English school run by British educators. The delights of an upper-class upbringing, I suppose.
 
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Well, for a gentle reminder on how not to take your tea, is there anyone else here who remembers those dreadful, perfectly horrid aluminium tea-pots from the 70s that were found in every café and restaurant? Not stainless steel, not porcelain, not

The ones that slopped and dribbled - into and around teacups, so that there was always dribbled tea on the saucer, which meant your trousers or knees got dribbled on - from their wide, ludicrously useless spout? The ones that were so hot that any attempt to add more hot water to dilute the tea meant lifting the lid with a napkin - because, naturally, you got burned, - and, even then, you still goy burned with the translucent and thin napkin, whereupon, with a muttered oath, you had to drop the lid in a hurry, nursing scalded thumb and forefinger by sucking them? The ones where the lid never quite perfectly fit, so that even the act of pouring the tea, led to the tea spilling out over the lid, as well as dribbling stupidly from the fatuous spout?

This insult to decent design was found everywhere…….

These days, whenever I drink tea from a teapot that is made from porcelain, with an elegant and perfectly proportioned spout, or from cast-iron, or lovely hand thrown pottery, I salute the past and lift a happy cup (and saucer) in joyous memory while marvelling at just how far we have travelled….
 
I really love the tea they serve at Chinese restaurants in the little cups. Oolong tea? I can drink that stuff for miles.

My wife also makes wheat tea which is pretty good.

And in Turkey, as well as in parts of central Asia, they serve the tea (which is invariably excellent) in lovely glasses, with saucers.
 
Tea bags have their uses - they are……..

……….. a convenient way of "adding value" to tea leaf dust by tea merchants!

Each to their own, but for me, "No thanks".

My breakfast includes a litre of tea made from leaf tea, grown in the highlands of Northern Thailand, brewed in a $5 pyrex pot, and drunk from a $1 glazed earthenware mug, sans milk and sugar.

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Quality Chinese (see:upscale) tea is likely high quality Chinese Green, which comes in a variety of flavors depending on the type. I much prefer Chinese Green to the fishiness of Japanese greens, except on the rare occasion. Japanese green is more vegetal while Chinese is more earthy and smokey.
 
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