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Bizarre, even the Windows zealots I know are really p***ed with Vista.

Even then the zealots know OSX is better, they just bring up the gaming card. Which is a fair point IMO.
 
Bizarre, even the Windows zealots I know are really p***ed with Vista.

Even then the zealots know OSX is better, they just bring up the gaming card. Which is a fair point IMO.

The Windows zealots round here still say Vista is better than OS X, to which I point out they they wouldn't know as they've admitted they've never used OS X!

I'm obviously too old as my response would be:
If you want to play games, get a console.
 
I'm obviously too old as my response would be:
If you want to play games, get a console.
Pretty much my attitude. Why pay a huge amount of cash for a gaming PC where you have to continually update the video card, RAM etc, when the same titles come out in an optimised form for XBox?

Saying that, I really don't play games that much at all, so perhaps Im off base.
 
Saying that, I really don't play games that much at all, so perhaps Im off base.


I've got my PS2 for Gran Turismo 4, Game Boy color for Pokemon and an Acorn Electron for the greatest game of all time, Elite!
I've tried Oolite but nothing can beat the real one.
 
At least they didn't say that they could never use a mac because they only have one mouse button.

Oh man sometimes I just wish they still didn't even know Apple was still around, like before the iPod came out. Those were the days. When you would say you use an Apple computer everyone would picture the Apple IIc from gradeschool. :cool:
 
I had someone in my office the other day saying she wanted to buy Vista so i mentioned macs to her. She swore she would never own anything by Mac or Apple (not aware they are the same company). I asked her if she had an iPod, she said yes, I said you already own something by Apple. She's gonna go look at Macs now. :rolleyes:

I use a PC but everyone here has sold me on Macs. I can't justify buying a Mac right now, but in a few years when I am ready to upgrade, it will definately be a Mac.:D
 
To the OP, It is just a computer after all, why does what platform you use in 2007 matter, the world is becoming more platform neutral which is a good thing.

It depends how much you don't want them to annoy you about it. But if you are really stuck with anti-Apple zealots, quote operating system reviews at them, pretty much every major publication rated Mac OS X Tiger as better than XP (and Vista too) when it came out, it's then difficult for them to say that every major newspaper/tech site is wrong ;).

I'm obviously too old as my response would be:
If you want to play games, get a console.

As someone who enjoys/play network PC games regularly it's so true now, having to upgrade your PC to play new games is boring/expensive.
 
It depends how much you don't want them to annoy you. But if you are really stuck with anti-Apple zealots, quote operating system reviews at them, pretty much every major publication rated Mac OS X Tiger as better than XP (and Vista too) when it came out, it's then difficult for them to say that every major newspaper/tech site is wrong ;).

You'd be surprised!
I've posted lots of links to such reviews and have been told that all the reviewers are biased towards Apple.
 
You'd be surprised!
I've posted lots of links to such reviews and have been told that all the reviewers are biased towards Apple.

Well they do use Mac's so its probably true to an extent. Though I'd say arguing that the New York Times, Washington Post, Guardian (UK), Independent (UK), The Times (UK), CNet, Wired, Arstechnica (and probably many, many more) are all wrong and part of a "conspiracy" and that Mac's suck after all is a bit much. Some reviews linked as I just checked them
 
I have somehow found myself surrounded by a large group of PC users who blindly hate Macs, not knowing quite why. They, however, think it necessary to mock and besmirch my beautiful iMac, thinking all Macs can do is "make photo albums" and "look pretty, but not as good as Vista." Again, they really haven't a clue why "Vista is better" or why "Macs suck", and giving them concrete and logical reasons do very little to convince them of their PC-zealotry.

How do you convince non-technical computer users that Macs don't, infact, suck?

The frustrating thing about it all is that I am very well versed in using PC's and I understand the strengths of both systems, yet I still get crap for using a Mac.

Grr.
I feel so persecuted for being a Mac user :)

Sorry to be in that position. How about turning the tables around. The situation sounds like a Mac commercial. Make things humorous ...
 
On the rare occasion that this happens to me, I generally just ignore them or say things like, "just cos you can't afford one, don't take it out on those who can".

Also, due to a spiral of bad luck/undiagnosed dyspraxia and dysgraphia, i am now in a class with all the dumb/poor people for one of my subjects. Whenever they ask me why i have a Mac, i just say that Macs are much better for everything, and they believe me, and a few of them are scouring eBay for cheap iBooks. :)

Oh, and two of my actual friends who previously thought Apple just made "over-priced stuff", have bought iPods and will be buying both Santa Rosa MacBooks and iPhones too, as soon as they are available (if their wallets permit). :)

Apple should be paying me for this service. :D
 
Your a photographer? :confused: :D

If he does have pictures can I see...:p

Back to the topic - I have managed to switch a couple of co-workers who are now more than happy - and not because I was preaching the vertues of a Mac but simply because they luved the DVD I made for another non-Mac coworker (it was of his movie of his 1st year-old son's birthday. My swiched co-workers just couldn't elieve what iLife could do 'out-of-the-box' and how easily.

I strongly believe it is what you can do on a Mac that makes it that much better (depends on what you want to do of course...)

I have another close friend who wants to get a mac but the problem is I don't know how to get his Panasonic hard disc video camera to work with iMovie - have tried on my machine but iMovie doesn't recognize the camera and Panasonic has some proprietary format which cannot be imported to iMovie either. I have to do some research on this....help!

Hopefully in iLife 08 (or iLife 09, depending on when Apple gets around to releasing it :p )
 
It's easy. Once upon a time, I swore that PC games were the way to go. I frowned upon the PlayStation and PlayStation 2 owners. The last console I owned (until the present) was a Sega Genesis. After that, it was all PC games.

Then, I discovered the original XBox. I understood what it was like on both sides of the fence. And I had a story to tell that validated the people that still loved their PC games, but also one to validate the console gamers.

Now on to my PC/Mac experience. I have had a PC since 1992 or so. PC all the way. CIS Major. MCSE. A+ Certification. Lots of real-world experience with PCs and Windows servers.

Then I got a MacBook Pro. And I'm not going back.

I tell people that until they see one for themselves and use it, they have no ground to stand on. And since those words come from someone who has had 15 years experience with PCs, they listen :).
 
I can easily "beat" an IT technician in an argument about Macs v PCs-all his responses are "'cos they're Macs...they just dont work!". Wow. Really. I had no idea.

BTW, MJ is not small for an Australian, he is small compared to me. :cool:
 
Mac's are built in the same Chinese factories that PC's are made in, from the same components. Plus if you are "environmentally aware" you would know Apple have some of the worse reports about things like their factories dumping things like heavy metals used in their manufacture into the local areas.
Hmm, if Macs are built in the same factories as those PCs, wouldn't the PC manufacturers be guilty of dumping the exact same amount of heavy metals into the local areas? :confused:

If I get any crap about Macs, I let them use my Mini.
Mini? Man, I thought we were talking about MJ again for a second! ;)
 
Well I just found myself in the middle of an interesting development. I posted a video of a game I'm making on some random forum. My signature states the systems I have (iMac & PowerBook), someone caught that and said...
"looks awesome but your making this on an I-Mac? pathetic"

I'm holding a certain decorum to his flamebait. I'm a little bit excited too as this is the first real encounter I've had with a wild hardcore Anti-Mac flamer! And I just love when they misspell something as basic as iMac. I'd have accepted imac or Imac. Hyphen? A hyphen through my heart.

Edit: Priceless "Macs dont have as many programs". I just said "why have hundreds of inadequate music applications when I have Logic?". No reply since. God I hope that's it.
 
Your a photographer? :confused: :D

Of course. What else could I mean?

what size r u? :eek: :eek:

Poor guy only carries around a thin 12-incher. :eek:


I never get harassed for using a mac... nobody much cares one way or the other, in my experience.

Seriously, me neither. When people see my Mac, they actually admire it and ask if they can do XYZ on it. The answer is usually "Yes it can", and then I hit the Exposé button just to add the nice shiny cherry on top. :cool:
 
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