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I'm not much of a computer junkie, so neither of these are big deals to me. The battery sounds good enough to me (7 hours) so I don't think I'll need to get a second one anyway. And I don't even know what an expresscard is. :D I'm excited for the SD card slot, though. I use a DSi as my digital camera (not a camera junkie either :rolleyes:) so SD was my only option.
 
Express slots are keck.

SD cards are used in camera's.

I NEVER use my express slot.

I ALWAYS use my camera.
You.
i never use my camera, because i dont have it.
if i did, i would stick a reader into my expresscard slot.
or an audio card. or an esata card (which i have now).
 
Lol.

Each to their own.

I use DigiDesign hardware via USB.

I've never ventured near an express card slot and don't wish to.
 
I think both the SD Card slot and bulit-in batteries are pluses. Never used an expresscard in my life and never replaced a battery. SD card slot is actually useful for digicam and built-in battery can probably get you an extra hour or 1.5 hours.
 
the monkey man:
nah.. express card works like crap sometimes, i give you that.

i drive my echo audiocard via Firewire. :)

just wanted to shed a different view on the thing. :)
 
I'm very disappointed with these "updates." I hate this non-user replacable battery crap, which also means that I won't be able to upgrade the HDD. Also this crap with the SD card reader is pathetic. I want the ExpressCard slot back. This is supposed to be a pro machine, not a consumer machine. Seriously, this sucks!:mad:

Don

I just got off the phone w/ the Apple store. Was told that the end user can still upgrade the RAM/HDD. Didn't ask how. Assuming this is just like the 17", how did ppl in the past go about upgrades?
 
the battery is behind the ram, and in a different spot than where the HDD is, obviously. The battery is a way different size now, i would think.

It is funny how many things we take for granted on a computer, until they are removed and replaced with something else. Ie; FW, and the Express slot.

When i bought my SDHC card (sandisk), it came with an SD reader, which is fine. Dunno if it is faster than the built in one (dont know the transfer rate). Mine is USB, which would make it redundant on the new UMBP. I would think that FW would be faster than USB when transferring files from a camera.
 
The Canon EOS 1DS MKIII uses SDHC and CF I/II. CAnt get much more pro than the IDS -3

Nikon D3x as well as Dxxx series have only CF slots, no SD, this also goes for canon xxD and 5D series cameras. Though canon 1dII's+ do support both, most prosumer and pro camera bodies are CF. For those doing a higher level of photography, a CF slot is realistically more useful that an SD.
 
yeah, i was looking at that. I know that the IDMK2 and the now aging ID-MKIII use both, and that is shooting at over 10fps. SO i would think that as far as transfer speeds, SDHC are just on par with compact flash. Also, i found this page. Seems that CF is still faster via readers rather than directly from the camera, although the tests dont show this.
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/reader_report_multi_page.asp?cid=6007-9392

Native CF expresscard readers are MUCH faster than USB.
 
All I know is it's soooo much nicer to just slide the card into the laptop, rather than having to get your reader (find it first :)) then plug it in to the laptop, then plug in the card.
 
When I saw the picture on the live blog I thought for a second that it was eSATA or HDMI. Both of these options would have been a smarter move than an SD slot.
 
Ridiculous upgrade.

Firstly, it's great to see Firewire back. I'd consider getting a 13 inch MBP now.

Now, it took just 2 days for my replacement battery to be shipped out to me after my original one failed. Now, it's going to take 2 weeks if I want a new battery.

And replacing the expresscard slot with an SD card port? There's no logic at all in that.
 
Meh. I think the upgrade to the UMBP was awesome. I originally was geting the 2.4GHz Macbook with 4GB of RAM. I really wanted a 15" screen with a 2.53GHz processor. I didn't want the 9600 because I heard that it heats up a ton when in bootcamp. So the base 15" is perfect. The SD card slot doesn't seem very "pro" but what can you do? The battery life is amazing. No one really had two batteries anyway.
 
i just called and asked about replacing the HDD and the techs don't have the updated fact sheets / tech sheets so he couldn't give me a definitive answer, i'm really hoping I can, i'm betting you can just like the MBP 17"s where u just remove the whole panel, would really like some reassurance though
 
As of today, no Apple product has a removable battery. What a travesty.
.

How convenient. That way you can just buy a new Apple product when the battery goes south instead of hassling to replace the battery.

These guys are thinkers. They are.
 
As one of the only Expresscard users in the great northwest, I feel jilted to the max. However, I do understand economics and the forces of the market, and realize that I would have to be a very large purchaser for Apple to cater to my needs and supply me with an expresscard slot on the lower end models.

Because of this, I can only quietly accept such shenanigans.
 
Pretty much exactly what I was looking for in a new MacBook Pro. Not being a professional user I don't have much need for the ExpressCard slot, but I see a lot of value in the non-replaceable battery. I wish the low-end 15" MBP had the discrete graphics chip I was after, but eh, I'm still spending exactly what I wanted to spend.
 
i'm more concerned about user-serviceability of the hdd/ssd. the non-removable battery better not preclude drive swapping ...

Exactly, one of the nice features of the old unibody design is the ease of access to the HDD. It made so much sense as many people will probably want to upgrade to SSD when the prices are far less prohibitive.
 
I really thought that after the removal of the EC/34 slot was announced that the next announcement was going to be the inclusion of 3G in all models. I realize there are some other uses for it, but I know that 3G cards are a big one.
 
How non user-removable is the non-removable battery?

I mean, obviously it's not going to be user friendly removable of course, but is it still 'doable' if you're used to ferreting around inside computers?
 
Does now having an SD slot mean that there should no longer be compatibilty problems with movies recorded on dig. cameras and used for imovie?

A lot of dig cameras had problems with codecs and formats, and imovie would reject movies taken on them.
 
Well heres the thing. I am a little upset that the new 13" MacBook Pro doesn't have a user replaceable battery, but they say it can go 5 years without needing to be replaced. Personally, in 5 years I will be long done with college and probably upgrade the computer anyway. If not, I'll just buy a new battery and replace it myself. I don't like sending in my computers to be worked on. Heard to many horror stories. You send it in for 1 problem, it comes back with 3 other new problems.

Besides, in 5 years Apple will have finally released a macbook powered by the Flux Capacitor, and then I can really have what I want. :D :p
 
How non user-removable is the non-removable battery?

I mean, obviously it's not going to be user friendly removable of course, but is it still 'doable' if you're used to ferreting around inside computers?

If it's anything like the previous 17", it shouldn't be too hard. Sure, you'll need a tri-wing screwdriver, but those aren't THAT hard to come by. If you're the modding type, the hardest part will probably be getting ahold of a loose battery to swap in.
 
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