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why don't you write that the lack of magsafe is due to interference to this wonderful c1 modem 😂😂😂
Why would static permanent magnets interfere with the RF signal of the modem? If the magnets were vibrating or spinning they might generate some RF of their own but they are not.

It appears that this worry is unfounded.
 
This is good news, especially given how well the Apple Silicon processors have gone. Speed is always good, but for me it's much less important than the ability to acquire and reliably hold a signal.
There are many factors affecting this, like how close you are to a tower, temperature of environment, the material of your case, how you are holding your phone. Apple's C1 won't magically give you better or worse reception.
 
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so qualcomm is the only phone modem manufacturer in the world and now Apple?

It would make sense that Apple would sell their modems to other phone manufacturers $$$
 
How can this be? When there were so many forum replies that claimed, repeatedly and before speed tests were in, that this modem would be slow!

I just don't know who to believe any more. Guess I'll go with facts, and not the uninformed speculation and usual complaining narratives from the usual suspects who claim to know things that they do not.

Back to reality: this is all very promising information. I'm eager to see what happens when the phone is in the hands of owners, so we have more facts about how the modem works in real-world usage. I am not buying a 16e, as I'm not in the market for a phone, but I'll watch with great interest as those who do buy one let us know what their experience is like.
 
… except we weren’t, because lack of range and worrisome SNR compared to Qualcomm modems is a notable issue for anyone daring to travel somewhere other than a coverage saturated downtown. Efficiency is nice, but a full battery doesn’t mean much when it’s paired with an empty signal bar.
Actually, if it's trying to find a signal, a full battery is better than one that's almost spent.

I've had my share of Qualcomm cellular modems over the years that were barely adequate. I'm not quick to jump on Apple's experiment, so I might just have my battery replaced. I live in an area with good signal, but I've been in areas where getting any signal was hit or miss.
 
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There are many factors affecting this, like how close you are to a tower, temperature of environment, the material of your case, how you are holding your phone. Apple's C1 won't magically give you better or worse reception.
Uhh yeah no kidding.

What I'm saying is that if Apple can put together a modem that can perform at par with Qualcomm's but with greater power efficiency, I'm on board.
 
… except we weren’t, because lack of range and worrisome SNR compared to Qualcomm modems is a notable issue for anyone daring to travel somewhere other than a coverage saturated downtown. Efficiency is nice, but a full battery doesn’t mean much when it’s paired with an empty signal bar.

Agreed. Many people don’t seem to understand having a signal is more important.

Tests show efficiency isn’t actually relevant because Qualcomm power consumption is already low to begin with. The 16e is getting battery life because of the 12% bigger battery, not C1.

This is like arguing having 6GB RAM in iPhone is better than 8GB because of 25% power efficiency. The power consumption is so small it makes no difference. But when you need RAM, there’s a huge difference.
 
Tests show efficiency isn’t actually relevant because Qualcomm power consumption is already low to begin with.
Really? Because my phone gets perceptibly quite warm sometimes when signal is flaky, and phones' battery life is notorious for plummeting when you're hunting for signal a lot.

Can't say whether that's a Qualcomm thing or just an inevitable part of the way cell modems work -- but there's clearly room for improvement there.
 
Thanks, it's in Mandarin, so I can't understand everything. But its nice that someone in China did the testing.

The signal strength results basically say X71 significantly outperforms C1 in the same locations.

The table shows: alley, airport, train station, parking garage, subway. The headers are RSRP (lower is better), RSRQ (lower is better), and SNR (higher is better).

You dial *3001#12345#* to get the numbers.

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Gigabit internet service at home, and the daily experience is not significantly different than a 200 Mbps service

Agreed.

It's only when I need to U/L or D/L large amounts of data (hosting, github, etc.) that I appreciate the pipeline.

Compressed video is effortless. I often am left waiting on the destination to even start filling the pipe.
 
an inevitable part of the way cell modems work

If one works at ESA/NASA, a certain degree of patience is inherent to such an endeavour.

If you're in Paris, or Chicago--and you just need to find the most expeditious route to a near-term (OMG! I'm late!) engagement--one's Virtues are usually covered ;)
 
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Nice performance numbers. Would have also been nice to see a better price now that they aren't having to pay Qualcomm licensing fees. :rolleyes:
You’re talking about $50 at best in savings. The gold for Apple is that the modem is one of the most expensive chips in the phone. Due to volume this could stand to save Apple a lot of money
 
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