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How Fast is Apple's First-Ever 5G Modem? The Results Are Surprising
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I always understood that mmWave is for large venues like stadiums and airports and such.
Its like the MMP implementation of 5G.
I don't want to know best case scenario speed numbers with perfect signal, nor am I that interested in efficiency numbers under the same circumstances. What's more important to me is what is the efficiency and performance like when the connection is either poor or out of service range. I have either 0 bars or 1 bar where I live and I'll end the day with "No cellular connection" being one of the top contributors towards battery consumption for the day. If the C1 chews through battery when it's trying to find a connection then I'm not going to have a good time with it.
Is savings vs overage.While the C1 modem only uses 23.9% less power. Funny how that is.
I guess the neutral thing to say is there is a 0.12 orders of magnitude difference.
When comparing power use or time to complete a task, you compare by savings. X% less/fewer.
When comparing speeds or calculations per second, you compare overage, x% more/greater.
I am on board with more reliable in fringe situations but slower, actually.
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This may be an unpopular opinion, but my 15 Pro is quite jealous of the 16e’s battery life. That’s literally the only upgrade I want. Nothing else. My navy 15P is gorgeous, but it’s my least favorite iPhone I’ve owned since the beginning due to its awful battery life. The C1 feels like a major breakthrough.
If that’s true, testing in Europe and Asia should show if the C1 comes up short compared to the X71.
It can work. There just can't be anything in the way, including somewhat substantial particulate matter.
All the extra money to make it work couldn't be worth it.
Well then, certainly Apple care, unless they want to quit China. I get that almost every user in this forum is not from China, but that lackluster result in that market is something they must address regardless.
When I just landed at Sydney Airport yesterday, my phone couldn’t latch onto any signal for as long as I was on the plane, meanwhile other android phones could have signal normally. There might be congestion at play but that period where I had no signal was surprising for me.
Also I travel to enclosed areas often for my work. Losing signal easily is not good. I hope newer revisions and/or software updates can improve performance in the future. The difference between having a signal and not having one could mean a lot.
Did we forget to mention that Apple skipped the latest and greatest QC modem in the 16 Pro? The X75 was available with 5G Advanced and many Android flagships used them.
And remember that Apple is using the same image sensor as the 15 series in the 16 series. Pathetic how Apple charges a premium for yesteryear’s parts.
And remember that Apple is using the same image sensor as the 15 series in the 16 series. Pathetic how Apple charges a premium for yesteryear’s parts.
Slower CPU, no MagSafe, single camera only, but faster and power efficient modem. Well the 16 Pro is getting less and less enticing. I think I'm going to survive on my 12 PM for the next 17 PM.
Congratulations, Apple! It's been a mountain to climb, but to achieve comparable speeds with 25% more power efficiency than the gold standard is impressive. With C2, Apple should be on par with Qualcomm. 
BTW, I wonder how much of this development occurred with on-site work as opposed to working from home....
BTW, I wonder how much of this development occurred with on-site work as opposed to working from home....
Great to hear that is almost as good as the Qualcomm one's if not similar. Waiting to see Apple's modem in all the devices. Should help increase battery life. Also waiting for cellular Macs.
This bodes well for the C2 and all future iPhone models. I was curious about the 'C' stood for and am making a guess at 'Cellular'?
Congratulations, Apple! It's been a mountain to climb, but to achieve comparable speeds with 25% more power efficiency than the gold standard is impressive. With C2, Apple should be on par with Qualcomm.
BTW, I wonder how much of this development occurred with on-site work as opposed to working from home....
Given the integrated nature of Apple products, I am guessing this is one example of working from office being more advantageous because everybody is in close proximity of one another and it’s easier to collaborate and communicate all around.
My needs are very simple - some connectivity everywhere I go. Higher speeds are nice to have. There are a couple of places with 5G where I get a good signal and it is noticeable. But a reliable slow connection is far, far more important to me.
To this end, I have a multi-network data SIM. Even with that, I am often in places with effectively no signal. That's because of where I live - poor coverage and lots of dead spots, some small, some huge. And they vary by carrier.
I'd like to know whether there is any change in the ability of a phone to jump mast, to jump carrier, in real world use. Thus increase my effective coverage. The only metric that really matters to me is whether I can get a usable signal wherever I am. Does C1 make any difference at all?
To this end, I have a multi-network data SIM. Even with that, I am often in places with effectively no signal. That's because of where I live - poor coverage and lots of dead spots, some small, some huge. And they vary by carrier.
I'd like to know whether there is any change in the ability of a phone to jump mast, to jump carrier, in real world use. Thus increase my effective coverage. The only metric that really matters to me is whether I can get a usable signal wherever I am. Does C1 make any difference at all?
The iPhone 16e will sell poorly in China. It's not the target market for this phone.
I live in Europe and travel a lot by train. I tend to work during these trips, and I need internet for that. There are parts withouth coverage, and parts with weak coverage. If C1 is worse in the parts with weak coverage, I don't care how fast it is in cities or how much longer can it remain being a useless brick in low coverage areas.
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Anyone know why is a 5g Modem chip such a big deal? Surely it’s a simple well known technology? Why has it taken so long to implement?
Because Qualcomm has almost all the patents locked up. They sued Apple over its chip design a few years ago. It has taken Apple time to come up with a design that works around Qualcomm’s patents.
At what cost? Has Apple had professional hackers break it, since the Bluetooth on Mac devices has a major hole in it.
Dodgy Chineese tests 🤣
All this shows is that the C1 will definitely be slower and less power efficient against the X75 and even worse against the x80. It seems to work ok and is good enough for non flagship iPhones, which is a big Plus.
However no where near on the same level as the Qualcom x80, which doesn't bode well for the 17 pro's 😏
All this shows is that the C1 will definitely be slower and less power efficient against the X75 and even worse against the x80. It seems to work ok and is good enough for non flagship iPhones, which is a big plus.
iPhone 16e reviews are now out, and Apple's custom-designed C1 modem has been put to the test. The results so far are quite surprising, as the C1's speeds are not as slow compared to Qualcomm modems as originally expected.
While the C1 does not support ultra-fast mmWave 5G in the U.S., it appears to offer comparable 5G performance to Qualcomm's Snapdragon X71 modem found in the iPhone 16, iPhone 16 Plus, iPhone 16 Pro, and iPhone 16 Pro Max.
First, here is what some reviewers said.
The Verge's Allison Johnson did not notice much difference between the C1 and the X71:Tom's Guide's John Velasco didn't seem to notice any major difference either:What about actual numbers?
In his iPhone 16e review video, Andru Edwards said the device achieved a peak 5G download speed of 673 Mbps in his suburban New York yard, while connected to the AT&T network. In the same location, he said the iPhone 16 Pro Max achieved up to a 667 Mbps download speed, so the results seem to be roughly equal.
In the middle of New York City, Edwards said his iPhone 16e achieved a download speed of 127 Mbps on AT&T, whereas the iPhone 16 Pro Max clocked in at 75 Mbps on the same network. In that test, the iPhone 16 Pro Max did have a superior upload speed of around 50 Mbps, compared to around 30 Mbps for the iPhone 16e.
In another iPhone 16e review video, shared by Dave Lee of the YouTube channel Dave2D, a speed test shows the device getting around 30 Mbps to 40 Mbps faster 5G download speeds compared to an iPhone 16 Pro Max. Both devices were connected to the Bell network in Toronto, the most populous city in Canada.
And finally, more scientific testing was shared on YouTube by the Chinese channel Geekerwan.
The channel tested 5G performance on various smartphones with an artificial 5G network in a lab environment, and the iPhone 16e had comparable 5G speeds and reliability compared to the iPhone 16 and other devices.
Apple says the C1 modem is the most power-efficient iPhone modem ever. More specifically, Apple seems to have told reviewers that the modem is up to 25% more power efficient than Qualcomm modems in other iPhones, and that appears to be an accurate statement. Geekerwan's testing found the iPhone 16e had an average power draw of 0.67W, versus 0.88W for the iPhone 16, which is indeed around a 25% improvement in efficiency.
All in all, these results are surprising compared to reported expectations, and they prove that the C1 modem works just fine in both the real world and lab.
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However no where near on the same level as the Qualcom x80, which doesn't bode well for the 17 pro's, if it's used in them 😏