I am unhappy enough that I returned it, I'd never be able to get four years out of it, and ... No, not really.
I would compare it to the last-gen Macbook just because I'd actually be happier with that one.
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How happy are you with you Macbook Pro 2016?
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I am unhappy enough that I returned it, I'd never be able to get four years out of it, and ... No, not really.
I would compare it to the last-gen Macbook just because I'd actually be happier with that one.
I feel.... okay. Had the 12" MacBook with problems and bumped to the 13" Pro. Now worrying about longevity and considering the (expensive) bump to 15". Any ideas? Thoughts?
What do you plan to use it for? 8 GB will remain more than enough for most purposes, I think. You can get the 13 with 16, in any case.
Honestly, pretty basic tasks. PDFs, light photo editing (photos.app), lots of word/excel. Could get the 13" w/ 16 GB though I'm not sure I can get it before my 14-day period. Could ride out the 13" TB...could try for the 15"? It's a lot of cash, though.
Mostly I'm concerned about future OS's just requiring more and more RAM.
Yeah, I think 8 should be fine for that, but if it worries you, you can return your 13" and get whatever you can, maybe a 15" to try, for another 14 days while you wait for a 16 GB 13 if you want.
So, in other words...it doesn't just work. Glad we cleared that up.
No problems before.
It's like Stockholm Syndrome up in here.
Recently picked up a used, less than two month old 13" base non touch machine. I am mostly satisfied with it.
Pros
Better battery life than the 2015 model I had before it
Faster SSD
Faster graphics (can now even use CAD software with no problem)
Like the bigger touchpad
Decent power even for being the base i5 processor
Thinner and half a pound lighter (big plus)
Cons
No Magsafe
Haven't gotten used to only having two ports
Keyboard sucks but I don't type much so I can deal with that
Still too expensive when new. The prices of higher end models make zero sense to me.
Pros
Better battery life than the 2015 model I had before it
Faster SSD
Faster graphics (can now even use CAD software with no problem)
Like the bigger touchpad
Decent power even for being the base i5 processor
Thinner and half a pound lighter (big plus)
Cons
No Magsafe
Haven't gotten used to only having two ports
Keyboard sucks but I don't type much so I can deal with that
Still too expensive when new. The prices of higher end models make zero sense to me.
Ha, no, that's not other words for what I said; that's words for what you prefer to think. It works fine for some, but not others. Thus the point of reading reviews to see how likely it is to work for your application.
More like Narcissus Syndrome. You seem to imagine that because the machine doesn't do what you want the way you want it should be the same for everyone else. Most of us aren't having problems. Most of us have no cause to join in your sackcloth and ashes and have a justifiably more positive point of view.
I didn't realize that my expectations to have an HDMI monitor work when I plug it in to a $3,300 pro laptop's most versatile port ever, using said laptop's manufacturer's own adapter, were out of line. I'll add that to my notes.
But in essence, seeing as though this is how Macbooks will be made going forward from the looks of the last two models, wouldn't you have to eventually get used to it anyway? Or is it one of those things were "I hate it cause it's different, until I have no other option?"
And who told you this?
The only "need" for more ram are two fold. The first is working with huge files or programs which do tons of memory swapping. These normally include video and photo intensive programs where the data files and the rendering temp files are huge.
The second reason would be the OS going from 64 - 128 bit. Right now all OSs are 64 bit and it is unlikely that they will make a jump anytime soon. Even Windows 10 still uses 32 bit Libraries and exe files and it seems Apple is completely abandoning the 32 bit processes.
If you're wporried about RAM as a limiting factor for the future 16 gig will be good for years and the SSD makes memory swapping invisible.
Huh? I see nothing wrong about your expectation of your HDMI connection to work. I and others have talked with you about how to make it work.
You've been acting as though the new MBP has put you through the labors of Hercules. You think that when people point out that carrying a USB-A adapter isn't quite like cleaning the Augean stables, they're stuck in Stockholm Syndrome. No, they just have a more balanced perspective.
Extremely pleased with my off the shelf 13" with Touch Bar. I am using the Touch Bar more and more even though at first I thought it was a gimmick. Battery life could be a little better but performance wise no issues. Does everything I need and more. The USB-C only is overblown. I find I rarely plug anything into it anyways besides an external hard drive. No issues at all with the keyboard. Actually I like it quite a bit. No hardware issues to speak of. Build quality is outstanding. All in all I am very pleased and would definitely buy again. Don't let the haters turn you away from what is an outstanding machine.
I honestly sympathies; I work globally, therefore I have little control over the computing environments that my hardware connects. In my experience of over 22 months with the Retina MacBook USB C with only Apple's own adaptors and dongle's is in the region of 80% successful, which I am sorry to say is unacceptable for professional usage.
I generally travel with two notebooks, which has resolved the issues on several occasions, equally I will not purchase a USB C only notebook as a primary tool, be it Apple or another provider, for obvious reasons; it simply comes across as unprofessional & embarrassing when Apple's finest is incapable of connecting to something as simple as a projector...
Many of the objectors simply don't want or are incapable of understanding other users needs, nor are they capable of visualising the magnitude of the problem. "err can I borrow your computer?" Just no absolutely, it instantly sends the wrong message, clients not going to sign off on a substantial technical contract, when you can't even manage your computing solution...
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Amazing. Who knew the new MBP can't connect to a projector? All those pros using it that way must be doing it wrong.
My experiences in college with people bringing their laptops to class lead me to believe that connecting to a projector is just inherently difficult. Whether it's a PC or an older Mac or whatever, there's always something wrong with the connection. I brought in my laptop after class hours to practice plugging it into the projector and getting it to work so I wouldn't have that same problem during my linguistics presentation 
Also part of the problem is some of these projectors are still using VGA
Also part of the problem is some of these projectors are still using VGA
I would be too. I expect and hope that a 3,000 dollar computer will last a long time.
My experiences in college with people bringing their laptops to class lead me to believe that connecting to a projector is just inherently difficult. Whether it's a PC or an older Mac or whatever, there's always something wrong with the connection. I brought in my laptop after class hours to practice plugging it into the projector and getting it to work so I wouldn't have that same problem during my linguistics presentation
Also part of the problem is some of these projectors are still using VGA
Totally agree, however the need for dongles in my experience has exasperated the issue several fold. Resultantly I will not purchase a USB C only notebook be it provided by Apple or any other, simply not worth the hassle. Generally I find DP or mini DP has the fewest issues, equally an adaptor is frequently required.
Q-6
No kidding!? The point of course was to ask what his specific concern was. Happily the person I addressed it to understood that just fine.
All four of the new MBP ports handle DP just fine.
Yep. All of this. Somewhere above, someone told me that he was happy with it because he has adapted to the minimalist life. Sorry, but minimalist ≠ pro. And yes, I know everyone has a different definition of pro.
I'm honestly happy that this laptop meets the needs for minimalists and those who don't mind carrying around adapters everywhere for even the simplest tasks. But that guy is not me. At work, it's doing alright, after I restart it in order for monitors to be recognized. As a portable machine to do work...nah, it's left me wanting more and realizing how much I miss having a selection of standard ports. I've already told my wife when we get her a new laptop, a USB-C version is out of the question.
And seriously, @Sanpete, it is what it is.