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I tend to push my MBP's hard with resource intense applications. After years of experience with hot running MBP's I've found the best approach is to re-frame how you perceive them.

There's a known issue of sloppy & excessive thermal paste being applied during assembly. Since Apples remained silent despite the hundreds of reported cases on this forum alone, it's obvious they will keep living in denial.

I just accept the fact that it's up to me to fix it. I think of it as a laptop in kit form.

As soon as I receive my new MBP, I tear it down. Remove the excess paste, clean it up & carefully apply the correct amount.

The beauty of this approach is it saves me the time and trouble of screwing around with third party software to measure temps, adjust fan speeds and all of that. Plus this way I know it's right and don't have to wonder about it later.
 
I tend to push my MBP's hard with resource intense applications. After years of experience with hot running MBP's I've found the best approach is to re-frame how you perceive them.

There's a known issue of sloppy & excessive thermal paste being applied during assembly. Since Apples remained silent despite the hundreds of reported cases on this forum alone, it's obvious they will keep living in denial.

I just accept the fact that it's up to me to fix it. I think of it as a laptop in kit form.

As soon as I receive my new MBP, I tear it down. Remove the excess paste, clean it up & carefully apply the correct amount.

The beauty of this approach is it saves me the time and trouble of screwing around with third party software to measure temps, adjust fan speeds and all of that. Plus this way I know it's right and don't have to wonder about it later.

i dont feel comfortable enough to tear my mac down and apply thermal paste myself. i would void my warrantee and probably put it on worse than them. they can build a beautiful computer but cant put the thermal paste on correctly? come the **** on. thats just unacceptable for a 2 thousand dollar computer.
 
i dont feel comfortable enough to tear my mac down and apply thermal paste myself. i would void my warrantee and probably put it on worse than them. they can build a beautiful computer but cant put the thermal paste on correctly? come the **** on. thats just unacceptable for a 2 thousand dollar computer.

It's only designed in California, not built. That's the problem.:(
 
i dont feel comfortable enough to tear my mac down and apply thermal paste myself. i would void my warrantee and probably put it on worse than them. they can build a beautiful computer but cant put the thermal paste on correctly? come the **** on. thats just unacceptable for a 2 thousand dollar computer.

Personally I think it`s mostly nonsense, I have never had a Mac notebook that overheats to the extent that it creates an issue. They have all run well within specifications and "Touch Wood" have never let me down. My new MBP 8.2 runs significantly cooler than my old 4.1 MBP and that machine has been running 24/7 since 08. You are far more likely to upgrade due to performance increases, than your Mac expiring due to high temperature, they are designed to run like this :apple:
 
late 2011 mbp 80-90C here played battlefield 3 for 2 hours

oof thats cookin lol. personally i wouldnt run my mac that hott. hopefully diablo 3 wont be that intensive. i could deal with 60-70C

what were your fans at btw?
 
oof thats cookin lol. personally i wouldnt run my mac that hott. hopefully diablo 3 wont be that intensive. i could deal with 60-70C

what were your fans at btw?

LOL, 80-90c is nothing...I wouldn't worry unless I'm constantly seeing 100c or higher.
 
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oof thats cookin lol. personally i wouldnt run my mac that hott. hopefully diablo 3 wont be that intensive. i could deal with 60-70C

what were your fans at btw?

80-90C isn't that bad, your gpu would probably be using majority of its resources on d3 so you'd reach about the same temps, and the fans automatically kick into 6k rpm
 
oof thats cookin lol. personally i wouldnt run my mac that hott. hopefully diablo 3 wont be that intensive. i could deal with 60-70C

The fans don't really turn on below 85C. So if you don't set them to full speed yourself, you will see those high temps.

Now, maybe if you set the fans to full speed, and play Diablo 3 in the lowest, ugliest settings, maybe maybe you can keep it at 80C.

Did you see the other thread of the guy who is gaming with the bottom case of the MBP removed? Maybe that's a good solution for you? He said it got 10C off the temperatures.
 
I tend to push my MBP's hard with resource intense applications. After years of experience with hot running MBP's I've found the best approach is to re-frame how you perceive them.

There's a known issue of sloppy & excessive thermal paste being applied during assembly. Since Apples remained silent despite the hundreds of reported cases on this forum alone, it's obvious they will keep living in denial.

I just accept the fact that it's up to me to fix it. I think of it as a laptop in kit form.

As soon as I receive my new MBP, I tear it down. Remove the excess paste, clean it up & carefully apply the correct amount.

Wait they still haven't addressed that issue? Bleh I guess not enough people disassemble their machines and see it. When you've done this, how much have temperatures dropped? Are there any warranty issues with taking it apart (like do they apply any anti tampering measures)?
 
Wait they still haven't addressed that issue? Bleh I guess not enough people disassemble their machines and see it. When you've done this, how much have temperatures dropped? Are there any warranty issues with taking it apart (like do they apply any anti tampering measures)?

Yes, when they open it, and the thermal paste is not a big mess, then they know it has been tampered with.

It seems I've been lucky with my new MBP. Idle temperatures below 40C, web browsing/light use mid 40s. Of course it gets warmer under load...
 
Just like with a car, a BIG engine makes heat, especially when you drive it harder.. Add WiFi, Bluetooth, a bright Screen, etc and there is no doubt going to be heat building up.. All you can do is 'start the cooling process sooner' by having the fans kick in earlier.. but eventually it will still get to the 'same temperature' either way, if you run it hard for a long enough time.. :cool:

If it becomes an issue for Apple, I am sure the Heat Sinks will become larger.. Quickly.. they won't want Warranty Returns caused by Overheating, I am quite certain!! :apple:
 
damn that sucks. im so hesitant to buy a new MBP i wish apple would just get there **** together.
 
Sloppy excessive thermal paste causing MBP's to run hot is extremely well documented.

And Apple produce how many units? MBP 4.1 C2D 2.4Ghz running at 63C, 30+ tabs Chrome, App Store, Netshade, FreeRapid, several Finder windows, MS Word 2011, Activity Monitor, mail, ClamXav, Dropbox, iTunes; 2008 early 15" fans at 2500 RPM (SMC fan control)

MBP 8.2 Core i7 2.4 78C COD 4 "Modern Warfare maximum setting, currently idling @ 38C albeit downloading > 9GB ambient temp 25C. those with problems will always rise to the surface, those without will always remain to be the silent majority ;)

I saw the same on the web for the PowerBook, and several iterations of MacBook Pro, the latest are without any doubt the most powerful ever offered, and personally I am very impressed a desktop replacement in such a form factor is an admirable feat.

From your first link;
I just reapplied thermal paste on the processor and now it doesn't start up anymore. I'm really afraid it's been damaged, but I have no idea what to and what could be causing it.

Could anyone please help me out here...

My father often told me "dont fix, what isn't broken" after several decades this is still sage advice ;)

My MacBook Pro 4.1 has been hammered, being the family desktop, my home office machine, it has literally spent days at a time transcoding video and it in general does not exceed 85C and I remember when it was new similar tales of doom & gloom of premature failure due to high temp; the only reason I upgraded is the massive increase in performance my MacBook 4.1 is still as good as it was on day one, only thing I have ever done is blow the dust out of the fans, it still runs 24/7

In general my 2010 corporate i7 Dell runs significantly hotter than my new MacBook Pro, only it`s made of plastic so you dont physically feel it, well unless you get close to the exhaust :p

YMMV
 
oof thats cookin lol. personally i wouldnt run my mac that hott. hopefully diablo 3 wont be that intensive. i could deal with 60-70C

what were your fans at btw?

Why not? My computer runs at that temperature the whole night whilst encoding.
 
Why not? My computer runs at that temperature the whole night whilst encoding.

im sure at 90C over extended periods of time will decrease your long term battery life and possibly cause other problems, after a long time anyway.
 
Source? And elaborate, what is at 90c, your CPU?

my source is all of the swollen batteries and peoples batteries turning to **** very quickly that play games. it just seems like any decent game on a macbook will run the cpu and gpu at about 90C, kind of sucks. i cant wait until i can build my desktop PC that will handle any load at 65C or under and be much more powerful. but for now while im in college and bouncing around everywhere, I need a MBP. then once i build the desktop ill have the best of both worlds.
 
There are more reasons than just merely heat which can cause li-ion battery swelling. One of which used to be overcharging years ago, but I'm pretty sure they have remedied that. So again, what temp of 90c are you talking about that you believe affects batteries? This all sounds like voodoo.
 
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