How long do you you think until Mac is the number 1 OS

[GfPQqmcRKUvP]

If only you would read. Mr "Physically 40 Mentally 12"

I'm a damn fast and strong forty year old, and a damn intelligent twelve year old if we went by your numbers.

And I havent edited that comment up there to include these marks there. They were ALWAYS there since ages! [You can see there's no 'Edited by ..... at ..... time' mark!]

Why are you so enthusiastic? We all know the Zune has failed, and the next Mac OS is for business? No, it isn't. It's called Snow Leopard and it adds no new features.


Look, I took exception to you using all caps being like MICROSOFT IS DYING LOL!!11one when it isn't. It's quite alive, and it's massively more profitable than Apple is and will be in the forseeable future.

You probably love Windows and hate Mac. It's apparent by the way you type.
That should elicit a wonderfully controlled reponse by Apple Ink! lol

 

[BlakTornado]

Eh, if Microsoft stops placing it's eggs in any basket it could find and realizes that it should work on what it has now, rather than investing in obscure developments that will only make profit now, they may stand a chance. But I can see the number of switchers increase.

I know for sure that if my friends upgrade to new computers (which is likely to happen within the next five or so years, when they go wrong, or just generally aren't performing that well) I'll be convincing them to go Mac.

 

[Whorehay]

Won't be for a while, I think.. but it's growing!

 

[Gray-Wolf]

To answer the original question, To those that matter, it already is Number 1

 

[FarSeide]

I still think its going to be for a while because of all the business users but for personal users, the numbers are slowly climbing but not high enough.

I would say at least 10 years.

 

[egor]

When will Apple computers stop being luxury items? When will the OS and hardware not be tied so tightly?

Mac will likely never dominate the marketplace, it's just not in a position to do so. Apple may make more money, but never dominate.

Consider the emerging markets where free OSes are making headway, Windows coming a distant second and what is Apple doing? Nothing.

It's the wrong type of product to be market leader.

 

[mashny]

I don't think Mac will ever become the number one operating system, nor do I think Windows has "won." I do, however, think that Apple will be a larger company than Microsoft in the next five years: Apple has several avenues of growth (and many other things going for them), Microsoft has none (and very little going for it right now).

 

[egor]

I don't think Mac will ever become the number one operating system, nor do I think Windows has "won." I do, however, think that Apple will be a larger company than Microsoft in the next five years: Apple has several avenues of growth (and many other things going for them), Microsoft has none (and very little going for it right now).

I agree with this entirely. No doubt Mac market share will grow but it doesn't have to be anywhere near dominant for Apple to be bigger than MS. Microsoft's best source of growth in my mind is emerging markets but they've abandoned the old philosophy of doing whatever it takes to get Windows "out there" and not succeeding as a result; they should be practically giving Windows away (and a decent version, too) in the face of free open source (and making it more malleable).

 

[MicBook]

I can see Apple taking over the personal and education market in the next 3-5 years

In fact local kids in grades 4-12 are being given brand new MacBooks for this upcoming school year

I also think Apple will have the Media and production market dominated as early as the end of this year

It will be at least 10 years before they can take over the business market in fact they may never be the number one os in that market however I do think we will start seeing more and more Macs in businesses and at least one in every business by the end of 2010

I also think that Apple will never be the number 1 os when it comes to gaming Windows will always have that one

 

[egor]

I can see Apple taking over the personal and education market in the next 3-5 years

In fact local kids in grades 4-12 are being given brand new MacBooks for this upcoming school year

I also think Apple will have the Media and production market dominated as early as the end of this year

It will be at least 10 years before they can take over the business market in fact they may never be the number one os in that market however I do think we will start seeing more and more Macs in businesses and at least one in every business by the end of 2010

This is US centric. What is your definition of the media market? Under my definition they have to compete with cable and satellite companies as well as games consoles. A few kids are being given Macbooks, most aren't (especially globally).

In fact I don't see how Apple can rival the likes of the Eee with their current offering, with young schoolchildren (and many older).

 

[itsthenewdc]

I can see Apple taking over the personal and education market in the next 3-5 years

IIRC Apple is #1 in the education market.

 

[Silencio]

Microsoft is far from dying, and you should know that. Yes, Apple is growing, but you are delusional if you think Microsoft is dying. I'll give you the point of uncertainty now that Gates is gone, but it's not like they're running around like chickens with their heads cut off.

Microsoft Income Before Taxes (in the last 3 months): $4.8 billion
Apple's Income Before Taxes (in the last 3 months): $1.5 billion

Microsoft is coasting along on their Windows and Office monopolies, raking in huge revenue figures as usual. In this way, they actually do resemble a chicken running around with its head cut off, because they've made years worth of poor executive decisions which are manifesting themselves in numerous ways: the disasterous Vista launch, their ineffectual attempts to compete on the Internet, their cash-hemorrhaging ventures in entertainment, the failure to establish PocketPC/Windows Mobile as a competitive platform, their failure to impose their DRM-laden will across the digital landscape, and so on.

Apple and Google are pounding Microsoft in some pivotal markets, and the rest of the industry has taken notice and doesn't fear Microsoft as much as they used to. Of course you can't ignore a company with as much power and financial resources as Microsoft, but smart companies can and have beaten them in the market time and time again. I think enough companies that partnered with Microsoft over the years have gotten tired of getting screwed over and are looking for alternative ways to go.

As long as Ballmer runs the show up there, Microsoft's malaise will continue.

And I don't see Apple taking over the #1 OS slot ever, ever, ever. Windows is so entrenched it will take a long, long time for it to lose its overwhelming grip. I think some distribution of Linux will make great enough strides to become a mainstream OS at some point (Ubuntu seems the frontrunner at the moment). Apple will keep growing, mostly on the higher end of the market and will continue to draw more previously Windows-only developers into the fold. Best case scenario is that Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux all end up strong enough in the marketplace to keep everything balanced and interoperable. However, even a market share split of 60% Windows, 20% Mac OS X, and 20% Linux would take many years to unfold.

 

[aross99]

If you are including Business, I think Windows has just too much traction here, and frankly too many things that OS X doesn't have - especially if you are talking about a large office with hundreds of PC's.

I am as big of an Apple Fanboy as you can get, and I would be REALLY surprised to see Apple take even 50% of the market place. You have a whole generation of "Windows only" people who have to "die off" and hope that they aren't replaced with a new generation.

There are ALOT of PC gamers, Business people, etc, who will never let go of their PC's.

There are also ALOT of us, who will never let go of our Mac... How did the old Power Computing slogan go: "You can have my Mac when you pry it from my cold dead fingers"...something like that.

 

[Apple Ink]

I'm a damn fast and strong forty year old, and a damn intelligent twelve year old if we went by your numbers.



Why are you so enthusiastic? We all know the Zune has failed, and the next Mac OS is for business? No, it isn't. It's called Snow Leopard and it adds no new features.


Look, I took exception to you using all caps being like MICROSOFT IS DYING LOL!!11one when it isn't. It's quite alive, and it's massively more profitable than Apple is and will be in the forseeable future.

You probably love Windows and hate Mac. It's apparent by the way you type.
That should elicit a wonderfully controlled reponse by Apple Ink! lol

I dont think there's any point in trying to argue with some one who rather than providing valid points passes witless comments and tries to prove his "smartness"!

It was completely my fault and apologies. I should've never tried to start a "conversation" with you and should've seen such a thing coming from someone like you!

And I'm guessing that in your witless anger you haven't even cared to read my following posts! You are very biased and not ready to, leave accept, even try to understand other people's points...

I strongly suggest you take a break from all this and read my posts again. All of them. I dont see OTHER PEOPLE scratching at me like you did. And that definetly means I might have a point.

 

[themadchemist]

Microsoft Income Before Taxes (in the last 3 months): $4.8 billion
Apple's Income Before Taxes (in the last 3 months): $1.5 billion

Really? Is that all the difference between Apple and Microsoft? Man, Apple is doing way better than I thought. I also didn't realize that Apple's market cap was more than half that of Microsoft (Apple: 152 billion, Microsoft: 235 billion). I guess this is the advantage of selling expensive hardware, vs. mostly software.

 

[PowerFullMac]

Apple is gaining more and more market share every year and Apple gains market share, Microsoft loses it.

Hopefully 5 years, but probably later

50% of Microsoft's business comes from Office, because everyone uses it and they have huge contracts so they have too, but as they end and people look at alternatives Microsoft will go down hill.

 

[Techguy172]

I don't think this will ever happen Microsoft own's almost all of the business market. Apple may own the Education market but that isn't large compared to the business market.

For all we know Microsoft could come up with something better than what apple has.

 

[MicBook]

This is US centric. What is your definition of the media market? Under my definition they have to compete with cable and satellite companies as well as games consoles. A few kids are being given Macbooks, most aren't (especially globally).

In fact I don't see how Apple can rival the likes of the Eee with their current offering, with young schoolchildren (and many older).

When I say media I mean the media production market not the media as in gaming and such