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I really like the abstract idea of a clean start but I have too many financial/security apps that I have to call in and setup to do a clean start.

Yeah - I know what you mean. I've got four separate 'Authenticator' apps on my phone for various systems that use my phone for two factor authentication.
 
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Basically when you will be receiving your brand new iPhone 11 / 11 Pro, will you proceed with:

1- A clean install

So basically you put your iphone in recovery mode and you download a fresh iOS13 version that you will restaure against your brand new iPhone.

2 - Just set your new iPhone from the original iOS 13 already pre-installed into the iPhone.


In the past I have been told and also red some advices saying that a clean install is better as it erase everything and install everything from scratch but I have no evidence of this and still wondering if this something better or just a waist of time.



Thanks.
 
Who on earth would do that?

That's like buying a computer with an OS already installed, but then installing it all again before using it.
In fact, that's exactly what it is.

Pointless.
 
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Basically when you will be receiving your brand new iPhone 11 / 11 Pro, will you proceed with:

1- A clean install

So basically you put your iphone in recovery mode and you download a fresh iOS13 version that you will restaure against your brand new iPhone.

2 - Just set your new iPhone from the original iOS 13 already pre-installed into the iPhone.


In the past I have been told and also red some advices saying that a clean install is better as it erase everything and install everything from scratch but I have no evidence of this and still wondering if this something better or just a waist of time.



Thanks.

A clean install means that you are just getting the new iPhone and setting it up as a new iPhone. It’s not erasing anything as there was nothing there to erase. What is meant by that is that if there is any corrupt data in your back up that it doesn’t transfer to your new iPhone. Some people also see it as a way to clear the clutter if they have a lot of apps and only download the apps that they are using.
The alternative is to back up your old iPhone and transfer that backup to your new iPhone. The set up process on the new iPhone can also assist with that. This is a good way to get everything over to your new iPhone and have it set up same as your old iPhone. Some people opt to set up as a new iPhone as it clears the junk out and it can operate faster, but it’s potentially only a benefit if you had a lot of old apps that you no longer use.
 
I have never heard of anyone re-installing iOS. I would be very interested in doing it if there is evidence it is beneficial in some way.

I do however plan to start clean and only bring over iCloud.
 
I would always start with a fresh install every time I got a new phone. Sure jt would take a while but just seemed like the thing to do. Tomorrow I will use the migration tool and transfer everything over as is
 
In another thread I told of my use of iTunes backup for the first time.

In the past, I had always used iCloud backups. But wanted to see if there was any noticeable differences. So I used iTunes for the first time the other day. Have to say it was pretty seamless. I still had to log into my Gmail. And I had to re-authorize my credit cards in my Apple Pay Wallet. But other than that, it was pretty darn complete. I still was logged into my Facebook/Twitter accounts. Still logged into my work email with all it's settings still intact. Even kept my work Wifi logged in as well.

It definitely seemed more complete than the iCloud ones I used in the past. Haven't tried the iOS 12.4 transfer method though. Will have to try that one next time.
 
I always do that, but I'm actually restoring and setting up as new my previous phone, couple of days before I receive the new one.

That way, I have enough time to set it up exactly as I want it, plus, when the new phone arrives, I immediately restore from the new backup that is a fresh setup with only the apps I need etc!

I'm too impatient to start using the device, so prefer not to bother with setting it up from scratch the moment I get it
 
Who on earth would do that?

That's like buying a computer with an OS already installed, but then installing it all again before using it.
In fact, that's exactly what it is.

Pointless.
In years gone by, before I got a Macbook, I would do that to get rid of all the crap software that the manufacturers (looking at you, Sony) would install on top of the OS. I'd re-install a clean version of Windows and only the drivers necessary to get any hardware working that the stock OS couldn't identify.

I didn't do that with MacOS/OSX and I don't do it with iOS.
 
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Previously always done an iCloud restore.
This time I will do the encrypted method via iTunes to see if I can keep all app passwords etc intact!
 
In another thread I told of my use of iTunes backup for the first time.

In the past, I had always used iCloud backups. But wanted to see if there was any noticeable differences. So I used iTunes for the first time the other day. Have to say it was pretty seamless. I still had to log into my Gmail. And I had to re-authorize my credit cards in my Apple Pay Wallet. But other than that, it was pretty darn complete. I still was logged into my Facebook/Twitter accounts. Still logged into my work email with all it's settings still intact. Even kept my work Wifi logged in as well.

It definitely seemed more complete than the iCloud ones I used in the past. Haven't tried the iOS 12.4 transfer method though. Will have to try that one next time.

Was this an encrypted backup?
I would have thought it would have saved the Gmail passwords etc as well - or is that device specific like banking apps maybe.....
 
Yep, it was an encrypted backup. Don't know why it didn't save my Gmail password. <shrug> Maybe this is a "security feature" on Google's end or something(?)

Have no idea. Pretty much every other password/setting was preserved.
 
In the passed always used to setup as new device.

Today got 11 pro and decided to do a restore from a recent backup but it all went to **** (prob iOS 13)

Reset/Erased and then setup a new, all is good.
 
this time I am going to do a wired migration I picked up the Lightning to USB 3 camera adapter as per the wired procedures. I am hoping for a quick accurate migration.
 
I'm really good at getting rid of apps I don't use, and other than purging useless apps, I see no benefit to doing a clean install. I've been restoring from the iCloud backup for years. I even talked to an Apple Genius yesterday, and he couldn't understand why anyone would go through the trouble of not restoring from a backup. It really makes the whole process fairly painless.

I also have all my photos on the cloud, so setup really is very quick.
 
Always. I find it a useful exercise to re-assess what apps I have loaded, maybe re-think how they're grouped into folders etc. The only local data I have stored is my music collection. I'm not an Apple Music subscriber so that's the only thing I ever need to touch iTunes for - to get my music synced across to my new phone.
 
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