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How much could the iPhone 5 really revolutionize things at all?
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I'm not everyone. I like the retina display, but it was not surprise and there were no other special things. You are talking about the rear camera: that's something most tablet owners will barely use so I don't find it an important upgrade. And just so you know: I don't get every last model. Heck, I even prefer a Windows 7 PC over a Mac with Mac OS X.
That's why I said 'if the rumours are correct'.
I stand corrected. I mixed up my calculations between inches and millimetres.
That's exactly what I said. There are no big things for Apple to improve because they have finally managed to implement all important features, like multitasking and copy & paste.
That doesn't mean there isn't enough to improve.
A new design can always be created. You tell me: are you really impressed with the leaked 'iPhone 5' design (I mean the actual leaks, not the renders)? Are you really 'wow-ed' and do you think it is unbelievable that after 2,5 years of development they came up with this design? I understand that at some point you can't really change the design of a phone (a device that fits in your hand), but I am not impressed with the leaks: it's basically an iPhone 4 back and two strips attached on the top and the bottom of the device.
As I said, sure all 'standard' functionality is already there, but I believe Apple can do much better.
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This is assuming a future where wireless communication has become so prevalent that you get it everywhere, which (hopefully) is where we are headed EVENTUALLY
People who think LTE is just a speed bump is missing it big time. I foresee LTE is going to be the most important enabler for all the upcoming great apps. With speed that fast, we can now rely more on cloud computing/storage. Eventually, we just need local storage for cache. Everything else will be on the cloud. You will have access to unlimited processing power and storage and the only limiting factor right now is the network connection in between the phone and the cloud.
I wouldn't say speed is the only limiting factor. When it comes to an iOS device your cloud options are limited. Then what you can actually do with an Apple approved app (like dropbox) is even more limited. iCloud is cool but it doesn't even offer file storage in the mannar dropbox does. Then dropbox isn't really fully functional on an iOS device. Don't get me wrong, I'm all about more speed, but local storage is still going to be a big factor for me. I love dropbox and I think cloud computing is promising, but on an iOS device it is still very limited to what Apple allows a specific app to do.
I agree. Several times I've used my LTE tablet at home forgetting to turn off tethering (still on LTE) and use it for hours and think I'm on my 25mb fiber optic wifi network. I keep my iPhone tethered to the tablet all day because it just works so much better and faster...
Its fast enough to think its local or close enough...
The only thing i can think of when i consider that the new iphone might just be a stretched version of the 4/4s is about RIM and their situation
IMHO all i see is that RIM in about 2006/2005 releases a very popular smartphone (the curve, bold etc..) that has people fighting to get one, and almost anyone with a smartphone was using a blackberry. As years pass, the design stays mostly the same, except for a few design changes. The OS also looked almost the same from blackberry os 1 to os 7 even though there were minor features added. Look at RIM now; after about the 7th iteration of the same basically designed phone, they began to lost market share like never before. Now what is RIM? almost a distant memory of what keyboard phones used to be like
The iphone released in 2007 revolutionized the smartphone industry, it basically has put many companies out of business or close to it (Palm, Blackberry, etc...) . people literally fight over the iphone at every release, some apple stores have hired security gaurds to help keep the violence down. As the past 5 have gone by, the iphone has retained the same screen size, and the same basic shape (save for the transition from 3gs to 4). The os has stayed almost the same, except for a few minor changes. These forums are litered with "should i switch?" threads, something that was unheard of to the iphone follower.
from what i can see, Apple looks like its at a point were it can choose its destiny. The demand for the iphone is still high, and everyone says the iphone 4/4s design doesnt have to change because its so great, well thats what RIM said and now look...also iOS is relatively the same too from 1 to 6. if apple releases just a stretched version of the iphone i firmly believe that the iphone is destined to a path much like the blackberry was. But if apple releases a phone that once again wows consumers like it did 6 years ago, apple would maintain dominance of the smartphone market.
before you guys start bashing me, this is just my opinion! i just wanted to voice what i thought! i love the iphone, and i just hope apple recognizes that its time for something different, something that wont lead it down the path of the last great smartphone company (RIM)
IMHO all i see is that RIM in about 2006/2005 releases a very popular smartphone (the curve, bold etc..) that has people fighting to get one, and almost anyone with a smartphone was using a blackberry. As years pass, the design stays mostly the same, except for a few design changes. The OS also looked almost the same from blackberry os 1 to os 7 even though there were minor features added. Look at RIM now; after about the 7th iteration of the same basically designed phone, they began to lost market share like never before. Now what is RIM? almost a distant memory of what keyboard phones used to be like
The iphone released in 2007 revolutionized the smartphone industry, it basically has put many companies out of business or close to it (Palm, Blackberry, etc...) . people literally fight over the iphone at every release, some apple stores have hired security gaurds to help keep the violence down. As the past 5 have gone by, the iphone has retained the same screen size, and the same basic shape (save for the transition from 3gs to 4). The os has stayed almost the same, except for a few minor changes. These forums are litered with "should i switch?" threads, something that was unheard of to the iphone follower.
from what i can see, Apple looks like its at a point were it can choose its destiny. The demand for the iphone is still high, and everyone says the iphone 4/4s design doesnt have to change because its so great, well thats what RIM said and now look...also iOS is relatively the same too from 1 to 6. if apple releases just a stretched version of the iphone i firmly believe that the iphone is destined to a path much like the blackberry was. But if apple releases a phone that once again wows consumers like it did 6 years ago, apple would maintain dominance of the smartphone market.
before you guys start bashing me, this is just my opinion! i just wanted to voice what i thought! i love the iphone, and i just hope apple recognizes that its time for something different, something that wont lead it down the path of the last great smartphone company (RIM)
Hard to revolutionize things every few years but I won't underestimate Apple. They have brilliant engineers and giant resources for it. But at this point, the entire cell phone industry is getting boring. It is becoming a trend to make smartphones closer to the tablet experience. Quad core and all that mumbo jumbo, is that even on most people's laptops? I have a 6-yr old VAIO laptop that is still efficient to my needs.
Think of the current video game generation. When we went from 16-bit to 32-bit/64-bit, it was a big jump. Then another big jump from PS1/N64 to DC/PS2/Xbox/GCN. The jump from that era to now was a jump to online browsing, motion controls, and HD graphics capability. But look at it now. Xbox 360 is going to turn 6. PS3 and Wii will turn 5. The Wii U is on the horizon, but we havent even seen the successors to the 360 or PS3. Once you perfect something, hard to put more improvement and noticing it to be that big. Gamers arent rushing for new hardware like year's past.
I feel the first iPhone was the most revolutionary but the 3Gs was when Apple got most of it right. Most phones from 2009 and after are efficient enough to cater to what most people can ask from a smartphone. If you want better hardware and a bigger screen that deals with greater tasks, get a tablet or laptop. The rest is just bragging rights dealing with spec scores that makes it all a pissing contest between iOS vs Android fanboys.
I'm perfectly content waiting a few seconds later opening up a site. I dont game much so the GPU is not that important. Don't mind a slight "stutter." I dont need a big phone trying to be a tablet. My phones released from 2010 keeps me perfectly content on my actual needs with efficient enough specs and perfect-sized form factor for one-handed use. Who knows if we will all be using smartphones 15-20 yrs from now? Maybe the next game changing electronic device is those Google Glasses or Apple's attempt at "SMART TV's." Aliens are probably laughing at our primitive tech as they can communicate with their minds. Gee, a half-inch increase to the screen, what an upgrade for us!
We just talk about these iPhone rumors because the hype keeps us excited. Keeps us looking forward to something. Plan our launch day experiences. Then we get bored at it eventually until the next cycle when we can afford to upgrade again.
Think of the current video game generation. When we went from 16-bit to 32-bit/64-bit, it was a big jump. Then another big jump from PS1/N64 to DC/PS2/Xbox/GCN. The jump from that era to now was a jump to online browsing, motion controls, and HD graphics capability. But look at it now. Xbox 360 is going to turn 6. PS3 and Wii will turn 5. The Wii U is on the horizon, but we havent even seen the successors to the 360 or PS3. Once you perfect something, hard to put more improvement and noticing it to be that big. Gamers arent rushing for new hardware like year's past.
I feel the first iPhone was the most revolutionary but the 3Gs was when Apple got most of it right. Most phones from 2009 and after are efficient enough to cater to what most people can ask from a smartphone. If you want better hardware and a bigger screen that deals with greater tasks, get a tablet or laptop. The rest is just bragging rights dealing with spec scores that makes it all a pissing contest between iOS vs Android fanboys.
I'm perfectly content waiting a few seconds later opening up a site. I dont game much so the GPU is not that important. Don't mind a slight "stutter." I dont need a big phone trying to be a tablet. My phones released from 2010 keeps me perfectly content on my actual needs with efficient enough specs and perfect-sized form factor for one-handed use. Who knows if we will all be using smartphones 15-20 yrs from now? Maybe the next game changing electronic device is those Google Glasses or Apple's attempt at "SMART TV's." Aliens are probably laughing at our primitive tech as they can communicate with their minds. Gee, a half-inch increase to the screen, what an upgrade for us!
We just talk about these iPhone rumors because the hype keeps us excited. Keeps us looking forward to something. Plan our launch day experiences. Then we get bored at it eventually until the next cycle when we can afford to upgrade again.
We need to see something from Apple that can completely blindside us and surprise us like in 2007. Most people asking or predicting the next specs of the iPhone has already been found in Android phones before. LTE, NFC, quad core, etc. Nothing Earth-shattering. Siri was just a gimmick to some people and perhaps moreso than FaceTime. But people fall for it because how well Apple packages and markets it. Nobody cared about ppi until Apple started a term for it called Retina Display. Then they changed the rules for the current iPad when it was below 300ppi and still called it Retina Display. Whatever they say, followers are gullible and just believe. Software is where Apple beats Android. If you include iOS, iTunes, and the App Store as a whole, Google simply hasn't beaten Apple at software. The smoothness and polish of iOS and their apps is like Apple's secret recipe the way KFC has their's. Hardware-wise, Android will always pull ahead in time. Dont be surprised if the next Nexus or Galaxy Note smokes the next iPhone in benchmark scores.
This always comes down to preferences the same way people who prefer software over hardware or vice-versa. With better software, you can get a better experience in the longer term. You get updates and whatnot. But some people like hardware more. Because in hardware, you can't change it anymore. It stays as it no matter how good the software can be to help improve it.
This always comes down to preferences the same way people who prefer software over hardware or vice-versa. With better software, you can get a better experience in the longer term. You get updates and whatnot. But some people like hardware more. Because in hardware, you can't change it anymore. It stays as it no matter how good the software can be to help improve it.
I guess if it had an app that could protract from it a device to trim nose hairs, and have iCalender remind you of your next trim, this could certainly revolutionize the next new iPhone.
Well, we could have LTE, which I don't care about. I'm also hoping that the new dock connector has digital audio in it or SOMETHING that can even come close to validating its existence. If they don't actually add anything to it, I will be furious because it would mean that they "fixed" something that wasn't broken!
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Great, now all we need is more than 200MB/month on an affordable plan. Or unlimited would be nice. My plan is so small that I don't even want LTE. It'll chew it up faster when I accidentally load stuff.
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Without Google and Android, I think the iPhone would just be getting video recording right now because Apple would basically have a monopoly. But I understand the point here; the iPhone really revolutionized it all.
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But you forgot a gaming controller input! This thing could kill the Nintendo DS so that Nintendo makes their games for iOS instead. Poor Nintendo, they used to be amazing
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Great, now all we need is more than 200MB/month on an affordable plan. Or unlimited would be nice. My plan is so small that I don't even want LTE. It'll chew it up faster when I accidentally load stuff.
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Without Google and Android, I think the iPhone would just be getting video recording right now because Apple would basically have a monopoly. But I understand the point here; the iPhone really revolutionized it all.
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But you forgot a gaming controller input! This thing could kill the Nintendo DS so that Nintendo makes their games for iOS instead. Poor Nintendo, they used to be amazing
Having all the features you have mentioned above, do you think it will still be counted as a 'phone'? I doubt that a bit!
Mobile phones became smartphones, smartphones will also evolve and phoning will be more and more of an anecdote feature wise. It wont be a phone anymore indeed, but it s almost the case already... I barely use my 3GS as a phone maybe 100 minutes per month but keep mailing texting playing listening to music and would do even more with a larger screen !
I don't know, certainly hardware could still revolutionize things. I'd say that the retina display is the last thing to truly do this, and that was two years ago. A bigger screen won't do that. It's been done well before. See Galaxy series.
I think NFC/RFID could change things based on how well its implemented and how many partners it gains over time. To access my building at work, we all have NFC badge things that we wave at the door. Having it built-in to a phone would be great. Same when it comes to paying for things, if retailers jump on board.
I don't think they plan on including this but wireless charging would be fantastic for very obvious reasons, and they'd be the pioneers of technology like that, despite the Palm series doing this.
An edge to edge screen / unibody casing / doing away with the home button. I can't emphasize enough how much I look forward to these when they happen one day.
A lot of people talk about Tactile Feedback, but I don't see this coming for another few years. Unlike a lot of people, I'm unsure of how many people would actually use this, or what its real world applications would be?
I think NFC/RFID could change things based on how well its implemented and how many partners it gains over time. To access my building at work, we all have NFC badge things that we wave at the door. Having it built-in to a phone would be great. Same when it comes to paying for things, if retailers jump on board.
I don't think they plan on including this but wireless charging would be fantastic for very obvious reasons, and they'd be the pioneers of technology like that, despite the Palm series doing this.
An edge to edge screen / unibody casing / doing away with the home button. I can't emphasize enough how much I look forward to these when they happen one day.
A lot of people talk about Tactile Feedback, but I don't see this coming for another few years. Unlike a lot of people, I'm unsure of how many people would actually use this, or what its real world applications would be?
So it means that basically the phones are turning into 'smartphones' and after it they may be converted into 'smart-some gadget'
which makes me quite right, because the phone will hardly have any phone function remaining then.And to carry the discussion a bit further, what think is that the technology will turn into 4G overall, this equalizing the pricing of the wifi and wimax and thus the phone concept will solely turn into internet thing, after which the whole communication will be done through internet, the time charging will turn into data charging and so on! Its a bit of blur and rough idea, but this is what may come soon!
Why do I remember something called the Nuvifone being announced a long time before the iPhone? I don't think it ever actually made it to market but I think we'd have touchscreen psmartphones today even if the iPhone had never materialised.
So, who's going to pay for all my extra data charges to access all the stuff I currently have on my phone?
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the battery is just fine. if you are home you can easily charge it, if you are in your car you connect it to your radio via USB most likely(thus providing a charge), oh yeah at work.
Even the waiting areas of airports now have free to use electrical sockets everywhere.
for the MINORITY who have "heavy usage" requirements go buy one of those piggy back iphone batteries
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the battery is just fine. if you are home you can easily charge it, if you are in your car you connect it to your radio via USB most likely(thus providing a charge), oh yeah at work.
Even the waiting areas of airports now have free to use electrical sockets everywhere.
for the MINORITY who have "heavy usage" requirements go buy one of those piggy back iphone batteries
the battery is just fine. if you are home you can easily charge it, if you are in your car you connect it to your radio via USB most likely(thus providing a charge), oh yeah at work.
Even the waiting areas of airports now have free to use electrical sockets everywhere.
for the MINORITY who have "heavy usage" requirements go buy one of those piggy back iphone batteries
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the battery is just fine. if you are home you can easily charge it, if you are in your car you connect it to your radio via USB most likely(thus providing a charge), oh yeah at work.
Even the waiting areas of airports now have free to use electrical sockets everywhere.
for the MINORITY who have "heavy usage" requirements go buy one of those piggy back iphone batteries
It could add some effing widgets...Speed up the processor and put some widgets, live wallpaper on for crying out loud. EYE candy that doesnt bog down the phone. So far, android has killer eye candy but jittery lag. Apple could conquer that, all with good battery.
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Until humans eff up and you are without your data...
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Until humans eff up and you are without your data...
I agree.
Too bad Apple gave up so easily, and passed on the opportunity to redesign the phone itself. Had they done this, those of us who are going to pass on this elongated recycled style, would have eagerly bought new iPhones this year.
Apple's losing their touch. Or sinking into complacency, all based on the knowledge they can get away with just about anything.
In other news, droves of people will line up to buy it and it wil be the best selling iphone.
Dont you realize that the hardcore geeks make up 0.5% of the population...
people will be perfectly happy with the new iphone even its not radically different.
I'm tired of people on here predicting the death of apple.
please someone explain to me whats so different that android is doing?
God people just like to hate whats popular because it makes them "cool"
Dont you realize that the hardcore geeks make up 0.5% of the population...
people will be perfectly happy with the new iphone even its not radically different.
I'm tired of people on here predicting the death of apple.
please someone explain to me whats so different that android is doing?
God people just like to hate whats popular because it makes them "cool"