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My Mini doesn't open web pages as quickly with iOS 7 sometimes, but I've never had a crash with Safari. I do feel a little weird about having less RAM in an iPad, than I have my cell phone, so I might have to rethink this new tablet for a day or two.
 
Surface RT has 2GB of ram, quad core processor and a handy-dandy kickstand. Better yet you can pick one up for $350.
 
Why would Apple limit RAM is there was any problem?

Answer: they wouldn't. There isn't a problem, just a potential problem down the road, like what always looms for this stuff
 
Why would Apple limit RAM is there was any problem?

Answer: they wouldn't. There isn't a problem, just a potential problem down the road, like what always looms for this stuff

I dunno. I feel like 1gb is already pushing the limits in my ipad mini.

If I open the ebay app, then check my email, the ebay app locks up for 5 seconds on return

If I click a YouTube link in Safari, the YouTube app stays on the splash screen for 3-4 seconds. When I go back to safari, the page refreshes no matter what, and there's a black box where the YouTube video just was.

If I rotate the ipad in Safari to landscape, then browse to a different page, then turn the ipad vertical, a static screen from two pages ago is still displayed.

Maybe some of these issues are GPU related, but the entire OS can get very glitchy and choppy.

It gives me pause that anandtech is talking about hiccups on the air too.

I can't help but feel ram is the weak link.

Low ram is like a small subwoofer. Small subwoofers can give the illusion of bass, but in order to feel truly deep, powerful bass, large amounts of air need to be moved, and that only happens in large cabinets.
 
I dunno. I feel like 1gb is already pushing the limits in my ipad mini.

If I open the ebay app, then check my email, the ebay app locks up for 5 seconds on return

If I click a YouTube link in Safari, the YouTube app stays on the splash screen for 3-4 seconds. When I go back to safari, the page refreshes no matter what, and there's a black box where the YouTube video just was.

If I rotate the ipad in Safari to landscape, then browse to a different page, then turn the ipad vertical, a static screen from two pages ago is still displayed.

Maybe some of these issues are GPU related, but the entire OS can get very glitchy and choppy.

It gives me pause that anandtech is talking about hiccups on the air too.

I can't help but feel ram is the weak link.

ipad mini has 512MB of ram.
 
Surface RT has 2GB of ram, quad core processor and a handy-dandy kickstand. Better yet you can pick one up for $350.

Microsoft is dead. Make it $99 maybe I would consider for 1 minute.

OS suck and not even close to been efficient. I try running Windows 8 on my PC and I near smash it to pieces.
 
almost 2 years without a RAM bump (19 months to be exact) is pretty appalling. I sold my mini in anticipation of this iPad announcement and I'm sure glad I did. I'm pretty peeved that we didn't get any memory bump as and with technology that seems to double every year, I want a device I potentially would spend $800 on to be at least a little future proof. Sorry :apple:, but maybe next time!
 
I dunno. I feel like 1gb is already pushing the limits in my ipad mini.

If I open the ebay app, then check my email, the ebay app locks up for 5 seconds on return

If I click a YouTube link in Safari, the YouTube app stays on the splash screen for 3-4 seconds. When I go back to safari, the page refreshes no matter what, and there's a black box where the YouTube video just was.

If I rotate the ipad in Safari to landscape, then browse to a different page, then turn the ipad vertical, a static screen from two pages ago is still displayed.

Maybe some of these issues are GPU related, but the entire OS can get very glitchy and choppy.

It gives me pause that anandtech is talking about hiccups on the air too.

I can't help but feel ram is the weak link.

Low ram is like a small subwoofer. Small subwoofers can give the illusion of bass, but in order to feel truly deep, powerful bass, large amounts of air need to be moved, and that only happens in large cabinets.

You mean upper mid bass :D

Right, actually I don't like deep bass. Freaks me out :D
It also tends to unravel everything In the area (including my nerves)
 
Interesting observation. Looks like iOS 7 is employing the same memory compression techniques that were discussed in the Apple Keynote for Mavericks.
 
Interesting observation. Looks like iOS 7 is employing the same memory compression techniques that were discussed in the Apple Keynote for Mavericks.

Is that actually the case? I know iOS 7 does feature app pausing and memory reallocation in order to manage the RAM more efficiently but this is the first I'm hearing about memory compression on iOS7.

The current 1GB supplied RAM is usable on the current iPads but it still restrains some basics such as safari page caching and app caching. Then again I'm aiming for iOS to completely replace traditional x86s so of course I want more RAM and flops of performance.
 
ipad mini has 512MB of ram.

Yeah, but his woofer analogy was epic!


So does the Air's lack of RAM bump indicate that the retina mini will stay at 512? Surely that can't be...

It's not, same specs up and down + 512 can't service a retina + that would require a second model A7.

If they were going to make a second A7, better to have a premium one to put into all 64/128 models, sweetening the upper tiers.
 
Is that actually the case? I know iOS 7 does feature app pausing and memory reallocation in order to manage the RAM more efficiently but this is the first I'm hearing about memory compression on iOS7.
Check out the AnandTech iPad Air review. There's a screenshot of LowMemory.plist showing lines for the following:
Compressions
Decompressions
Compressor Size
Uncompressed Pages in Compressor

iOS 6 didn't have those.
 
The AnandTech iPad Air review was extremely disappointing. Not just to confirm the 1GB of ram, but this little nugget:

In general you’re looking at a 20 - 30% increase in memory footprint when dealing with an all 64-bit environment.

So essentially the iPad Air, because it has a 64-bit A7, has more like 717-819MB of ram. That is rather appalling! As I'm already up a creek since I sold my iPad 2, I'll be only buying one Mini Retina 32GB, instead of a 16GB Mini Retina for my wife and a 128GB Mini Retina LTE for me. We'll just share until next autumn! This really pisses me off. I don't want the ram amount to be lower than the previous model! I probably would have dealt with 1GB and pulled the trigger but lower??? Are you serious!!???!!??
 
The AnandTech iPad Air review was extremely disappointing. Not just to confirm the 1GB of ram, but this little nugget:



So essentially the iPad Air, because it has a 64-bit A7, has more like 717-819MB of ram. That is rather appalling! As I'm already up a creek since I sold my iPad 2, I'll be only buying one Mini Retina 32GB, instead of a 16GB Mini Retina for my wife and a 128GB Mini Retina LTE for me. We'll just share until next autumn! This really pisses me off. I don't want the ram amount to be lower than the previous model! I probably would have dealt with 1GB and pulled the trigger but lower??? Are you serious!!???!!??

I totally agree Macduke. I can't see paying for yet another upgrade of the same old thing. Thankfully I hung onto my iPad 3 so I can just ride this side grade out once again. Seriously Apple?
 
It's funny, what floats and sinks boats here

This memory issue or (non-issue) means nothing to me, yet the 'idea' of it is freaking people out

Other things freak me out.

Things like $800. This seriously freaks me out. :eek:

I'm not sure I can deal which that gracefully
 
I'm totally not freaked out about the memory. I just won't be forking over another wad of cash to buy the same thing.

Bought iPad 1 ...iOS upgraded to 5.1.1 and all safari did was crash.
Bought iPad 3 ... Apple updated and replaced my underpowered iPad a mere 7 months later. I never once complained about that and I'm still using my 3.

So I was looking forward to a serious upgrade from Apple this time around. Turns out I expected too much so I'll just sit this upgrade out yet again. So no...no freaking out. Just being sensible with my hard earned cash.
 
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