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Well I use my iPad on a table or on my lap. My phone is held up in my line of sight and is much closer to my eyes and face. I don't need to hold my iPad close because it has a a much larger display.

However the resolution on the ipad is much higher than the resolution of the Xr.
The resolution is higher because the display is larger and more "lines" can fit on it, the PPI is still the same though and that's what affects what things look like on the screen.
 
Display might be somewhat larger, but the PPI is the same.

That's the strangest part I don't understand. Yes, If the PPI is the same, despite of the somewhat larger display it should share similar(or same) clarity with Iphone 8. Yet iPone 8's text was way more clear and blacker than XR. That's why I'm blaming color shifting for XR's somewhat blurry looking text. XR's text, when it's in fully optimized app, such ad Notes app or Settings app is as crisp as iphone 8, but visibly blurrier than 8+. I just can see it.
 
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That's the strangest part I don't understand. Yes, If the PPI is the same, despite of the somewhat larger display it should share similar(or same) clarity with Iphone 8. Yet iPone 8's text was way more clear and blacker than XR. That's why I'm blaming color shifting for XR's somewhat blurry looking text. XR's text, when it's in fully optimized app, such ad Notes app or Settings app is as crisp as iphone 8, but visibly blurry than 8+. I just can see it.
The iPhone 8 looks sharper because it's smaller. The PPI and resolution should have been higher on the XR. However we all see things differently. Many are happy with the Xr display.
 
Same. I didn’t pixel peep my 8+ versus the XR but in using the XR I felt the text density/clarity was VERY close to the 8+. My issue was text size on the XR, in apps like Safari, is noticeable smaller.

Which is why I keep my XR on display zoom, which is only a moderate increase, not so large as on the 6-8 and Plus phones on display zoom.
 
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The resolution is higher because the display is larger and more "lines" can fit on it, the PPI is still the same though and that's what affects what things look like on the screen.
Shouldn't the Xr resolution be higher then, as the display is larger?

Anyhow this debate is nothing new. There were similar debates when HD TVs' first came out. There were those who felt they were worth buying and those who said there was no difference between HD and SD and some felt that their old CRTs had better displays than the plasma and LCD TVs.
 
The iPhone 8 looks sharper because it's smaller. The PPI and resolution should have been higher on the XR. However we all see things differently. Many are happy with the Xr display.
But being smaller doesn't make it have more pixels per inch, which is what would make it sharper. You are basically saying what comes out to be along the lines of a compact car getting somewhere faster than a full size car even when both travel at the same speed.
 
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There are tons of popular app that aren't fully optimized for XR's resolution yet. I hope people don't get discouraged by it, because it's blurrier when it's not fully optimized. I compared the Gmail app with native Notes app side by side.
It'll get updated sometime in the future and it'll be fine, but for now expect the less crispy texts on them.
 

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Resolution doesn't matter. PPI matters. The XR is sharper than any ipad. And the ipad looks great.
Resolution matters to me. I wouldn't spend £900 on a phone that doesn't even have a 1080p display. However for many it doesn't matter.
 
I was very sceptical before the Xr launch because I could clearly see a difference in clarity between the screen on my wife's 7+ and my previous 6s. But upon seeing the Xr myself, the screen is totally fine. I had my Xr next to a Xs again today and I actually like the lcd screen better. It's easier on my eyes. Text clarity is absolutely fine to me and I do read a lot on my phone. I use zoomed display on my Xr. Maybe it's my older eyes prefering lcd, idk. Honestly, if both were the same price I would still pick the Xr over the Xs.
 
Resolution matters to me. I wouldn't spend £900 on a phone that doesn't even have a 1080p display. However for many it doesn't matter.

Only because you've convinced yourself it matters. You take it as a personal insult that it has less than 1080p when it really makes no difference at this screen size.

Watching movies on a phone will always be a worse experience than watching them on a big screen, 55 inches plus. So making a terrible experience 5% better is a really dumb thing to be obsessed with.
 
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Each individual buyer should look at both phones in person to see if the better screen of the XS is worth the price difference over the XR. For some people, it is worth it. For others, it is not. Simple as that.
 
But being smaller doesn't make it have more pixels per inch, which is what would make it sharper. You are basically saying what comes out to be along the lines of a compact car getting somewhere faster than a full size car even when both travel at the same speed.
Well in this case the smaller 8 doesn't have more ppi as Apple have matched them even between the XS and the Max, but for many android phones, even when both have the same resolution the smaller variant usually has a higher ppi.
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Only because you've convinced yourself it matters. You take it as a personal insult that it has less than 1080p when it really makes no difference at this screen size.

Watching movies on a phone will always be a worse experience than watching them on a big screen, 55 inches plus. So making a terrible experience 5% better is a really dumb thing to be obsessed with.
It matters to me. It doesn't matter to you. That's ok. I can tell the difference and that difference is important to me. If it didn't matter Apple would make all of their displays with the same resolution and ppi. If it didn't matter at all the Plus phones would have had the same resolution and ppi as the 6,7 and 8.

They made the Xr for people that don't care about resolution and ppi and they made the XS/Xs max for people that do. So you just pick whichever one is better for you.
 
Well in this case the smaller 8 doesn't have more ppi as Apple have matched them even between the XS and the Max, but for many android phones, even when both have the same resolution the smaller variant usually has a higher ppi.
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It matters to me. It doesn't matter to you. That's ok. I can tell the difference and that difference is important to me. If it didn't matter Apple would make all of their displays with the same resolution and ppi. If it didn't matter at all the Plus phones would have had the same resolution and ppi as the 6,7 and 8.

They made the Xr for people that don't care about resolution and ppi and they made the XS/Xs max for people that do. So you just pick whichever one is better for you.

Totally 100% false.

I care a ton about resolution and PPI. And I chose an XR. I can afford the XS easily. I deliberately chose the XR.

It doesn't matter if you can tell a difference. It matters if that difference is worth it. I know you've convinced yourself it is, but you are lying to yourself. It's not worth it. The difference isn't big enough. Sorry, you got sold.
 
Totally 100% false.

I care a ton about resolution and PPI. And I chose an XR. I can afford the XS easily. I deliberately chose the XR.

It doesn't matter if you can tell a difference. It matters if that difference is worth it. I know you've convinced yourself it is, but you are lying to yourself. It's not worth it. The difference isn't big enough. Sorry, you got sold.
It’s not worth it to you and I’m glad you have a phone you’re happy with. I’ve got a phone I’m happy with.
 
Its not worth it to you either. You just dont realize it.

Meanwhile, you used Nilay as your argument before saying that he prefers the LCD panels to OLED, when that was proven false when review time came. He said he prefers the XS and XS Max displays and would still would choose those personally.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/23/18011306/apple-iphone-xr-review-camera-screen-battery-price

"The XR display is very much an Apple LCD, but it's not as good as Apple's OLEDS".
 
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Well I’m glad you know me better than I know myself.

Food for thought: The same reviewers that blasted the XR screen are praising the iPad Pro screen. Even though the pro has significantly less PPI than the XR. The Pro happens to have a number for resolution higher than 1080p, but its spread out over a much bigger surface area. It's all BS.
Meanwhile, you used Nilay as your argument before saying that he prefers the LCD panels to OLED, when that was proven false when review time came. He said he prefers the XS and XS Max displays and would still would choose those personally.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/23/18011306/apple-iphone-xr-review-camera-screen-battery-price

"The XR display is very much an Apple LCD, but it's not as good as Apple's OLEDS".

He did until Apple OLED came out. He jumped ship pretty quickly which was surprising seeing as Apple OLEDs are worse than competitors OLEDs.
 
Food for thought: The same reviewers that blasted the XR screen are praising the iPad Pro screen. Even though the pro has significantly less PPI than the XR. The Pro happens to have a number for resolution higher than 1080p, but its spread out over a much bigger surface area. It's all BS.


He did until Apple OLED came out. He jumped ship pretty quickly which was surprising seeing as Apple OLEDs are worse than competitors OLEDs.
They aren’t worse it’s just a preference thing. Some including myself prefer the saturated OLEDs that Samsung phones have (
not enough to ditch the iPhone) whilst others prefer the more realistic OLED panels on the iPhone.

I used Samsung phones from 2012-2014 and wouldn’t entertain an iPhone again until they made the screens bigger and increased the resolution to 1080p.
 
He did until Apple OLED came out. He jumped ship pretty quickly which was surprising seeing as Apple OLEDs are worse than competitors OLEDs.

Your fact about competitor's displays is false....the only phone display I think that is regarded higher
is the Pixel 3 XL now. A phone I'd never buy for too many reasons.
 
They aren’t worse it’s just a preference thing. Some including myself prefer the saturated OLEDs that Samsung phones have (
not enough to ditch the iPhone) whilst others prefer the more realistic OLED panels on the iPhone.

I used Samsung phones from 2012-2014 and wouldn’t entertain an iPhone again until they made the screens bigger and increased the resolution to 1080p.
Your fact about competitor's displays is false....the only phone display I think that is regarded higher
is the Pixel 3 XL now. A phone I'd never buy for too many reasons.

Apple OLED is worse. Samsung gives apple the B grade panels. Color shift off axis is extreme, color temps are trash, uneven screen tints etc.

OLED in general is worse due to pentile subpixel layout, PWM flickering, burn in concerns, and lower lifespan.
 
Apple OLED is worse. Samsung gives apple the B grade panels. Color shift off axis is extreme, color temps are trash, uneven screen tints etc.

OLED in general is worse due to pentile subpixel layout, PWM flickering, burn in concerns, and lower lifespan.

Samsung gives them the B panels, yet Displaymate gives the award (with proof) of the award going to
the XS Max. That doesn't make sense. Mind you, the burn in issues were also much more apparent in another study on Samsung's own phones.

I'm still waiting for accuracy in your posts.
[doublepost=1541447778][/doublepost]"The screens on the Galaxy Note 8 and Galaxy S7 Edge, meanwhile, were impacted sooner. "

https://bgr.com/2018/01/02/iphone-x-vs-galaxy-note-8-oled-burn-in-screen-comparison/
 
Samsung gives them the B panels, yet Displaymate gives the award (with proof) of the award going to
the XS Max. That doesn't make sense. Mind you, the burn in issues were also much more apparent in another study on Samsung's own phones.

I'm still waiting for accuracy in your posts.

Displaymate is measuring color accuracy, and they get hand picked panels from Apple. Also, Displaymate says the new phone has the best screen every year, without fail. They are not credible to me. What I can see with my own eyes is that Apple OLED shifts off axis, and the testimonials of many in the XS Yellow screen thread speaks to QC.

The fact that we are even discussing burn in is an absolute joke. Thats a 1994 problem. Its an absolute joke that we have to consider that in 2018. You thought the XR resolution was bad? It's nothing compared to the fact that OLED has burn in. Joke of the century.
 
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