Burn in is only an issue if you leave the phone on the same display for hours on end like display phones in retail stores. For normal users burn in hasn’t been an issue for years.
PWM flickering only effects some people. It doesn’t effect everyone.
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iPhone XR How much sharper is the XS display compared to the XR?
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PWM flickering only effects some people. It doesn’t effect everyone.
The fact that burn in is possible at all is a joke. Is this 1994? Got a flying toaster screensaver for your XS Max?
No offence but you seem to have a deeply flawed understanding of the relationship between resolution and PPI. Many users have tried in vain to explain it to you but I suggest some reading might be in order, there are tons of good information available on the subject. Cheers
So you know what’s best for someone else? Dude just enjoy your phone and stop trying to sell it to everyone.
You don't make any sense, since they just awarded the new crown to the Google Pixel 3 XL ONE month later:
https://www.talkandroid.com/333410-...st-smartphone-display-award-from-displaymate/
There have been "yellow screen" iPhone and iPad threads too (all LCD panels), that doesn't mean anything about OLED solely.
Burn in is only an issue in testing if the same image shows up for over 510 hours static at one time.
Any proof of burn in here?
Samsung Note 8 burn in: 62 hours static image displayed at the same time.
Yet Apple has the B panels, you say.
I thought I was going insane at BestBuy an hour ago when I thought my old 8 Plus looked sharper than the Xr, and here we are...lol. The XR's display is pretty bad. Maybe I'm spoiled with retina displays and OLED on my XS max, but wow, was the Xr's display underwhelming.
And this is an interesting review which I’m sure you’ve seen...
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-iPhone-XR-Smartphone-Review.346971.0.html
“The XR has a 6.1-inch IPS display that runs at a 1,792 x 828 native resolution and pixel density of 324 PPI. The iPhone XS and XS Max both have a 463 PPI, but strictly speaking, the XR has a sharper display. The more expensive iPhones have a PenTile OLED matrix display with 2 sub-pixels per pixel compared to the XR’s 3. Hence, the iPhone XS and XS Max effectively have a pixel density of 302 PPI because of their fewer sub-pixels“.
I am reading this thread side-by-side on an XR and XS. The one thing that stands out is how significantly more warm the XS is. When it comes to clarity they look the same.
No many users have tried to try and tell people that resolution doesn’t matter and tell people that there is no difference between the display on the Xr and Xs. Maybe they feel the need to justify their own purchases.
Steve jobs may have declared that 326 is the point beyond which the human eye can’t distinguish individual pixels, however displays have moved beyond 326 ppi.
However my main gripe with the Xr is the resolution not the ppi. I’m not interested in paying £900 for a phone with a sub 1080p display.
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No it’s not. Resolution and ppi don’t matter.
That assessment doesn't make any sense. the XR does not hit 1080p, while the XS and XS Max do.
How could the picture be more sharp?
The resolution of the Xr STILL does not capture the sharpness of their more premium flagships = they
cannot show the same clarity.
That's perfectly valid point, but I'm not interested in paying additional $450 for the Max mainly for screen and zoom lens. So everyone has their reasons.
Because that’s what I keep getting told. The Xr meets the magical 326 ppi and that’s all that matters. Because the iPhone 8 looks fine and it has 326 ppi then any other screen that has 326 ppi, regardless of anything else will be just as good as the 8.How/why?
Look the display on the Xr is ok. Are there better displays. Yes. Is it worth paying more money for a better display. That comes down to the individual buyer.
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The 8 plus looks better because it has a higher resolution and a higher ppi. It’s not rocket science. We are even comparing like for like. Apple LCD panels with the same wide colour gamut, same Apple standards.
I think the Xr display is ok and perfectly usable however.
Don't think that's really what was being said. It was more along the lines that resolution on its own doesn't necessarily say something without taking PPI into account as well. That the same PPI on a screen that is fairly similar in size shouldn't make for that much of a difference.
Of course both are important. The displays that the Xr is being negatively compared against in this thread have higher resolutions and a higher PPI.
Also screen size is an issue when thinking about resolution as putting a ridiculously high resolution on a small phone like the SE or even the 7/8 is pretty pointless. However a higher resolution is more relevant on a larger sized phone.
I never said PPI didnt matter. PPI is the main metric to worry about. And again, nothing will compare to watching content on a large screen TV. No matter what the resolution of the phone, it will always ALWAYS be a worse, second choice experience to watching on a real screen.
Of course watching on a TV will always be better, but many people also watch content on other displays. I personally wouldn’t watch a movie on my phone but I watch a lot of YouTube videos and some tv shows on there. I have iPads but my phone is more convenient a lot of the time.
Where people get confused is that resolution and PPI are independent of each other, but they both matter.
Until you can bring and view your (assumably future Micro LED) 55" TV or so onto an airplane, or on the go to view content, likely not a good idea to go there.
Where people get confused is that resolution and PPI are independent of each other, but they both matter.
Until you can bring and view your (assumably future Micro LED) 55" TV or so onto an airplane, or on the go to view content, likely not a good idea to go there.
The point is a 5% better crappy experience is still a crappy experience. Watching content on a 329ppi phone vs a 450 or 500 ppi phone are both not great when compared to a big screen. So why get to bent out of shape that your tiny screen has x resolution? It's a waste of time. As long as it's good enough to be clear and look nice, you are golden. Obsessing over something that has no actual real world value is silly.
This comment confuses me. In terms of sharpness, the display of a 6/7/8 should look exactly the same as the XR's, because they all have precisely the same pixel density. If 326 ppi looks ok on a 4.7" screen, it should also look ok on a 6.1" - maybe better, in fact, because the user may hold a larger screen a little further away than a smaller one.
Looking at some of your other comments - I believe you're confusing pixel density with resolution. Both are important, but if we're discussing the sharpness of text/images, ppi is the only number that matters. Assuming equal pixel density, and from equal distances - any size screen should appear equally sharp. A 20ft jumbotron at 326 ppi won't look "nasty" compared to a 4.7" iphone 8.
I mean, jumbotrons aren't anywhere near 326 ppi, and even if they were, nobody watches one from 12 inches away. But if you found such a screen and got close to it, it would look the same as a 326 ppi iPhone. Its resolution would also be astronomical.
Resolution will effect the sharpness/clarity of images. Also why would you view every screen at the same distance regardless of the size. Also I made reference to the resolution and the size of the Xr display. Your comment is basically saying that resolution doesn’t matter as the Xr and the 8 have the same ppi and should be the same. However both ppi and resolution matter. 326 ppi is ok, could have been higher but imo the resolution should have been higher. I said sub 1080p on a 6.1 inch display is nasty, I did not make reference to the ppi. I think most who are complaining about the Xr screen are mostly complaining about the resolution, not necessarily the ppi. However the Xr screen defenders keep going on about the ppi being the only important metric.
To you that matters, and if you got the screen you want...awesome. I have 2 Samsung 4k SUHD (LCD) TV's at home, and I still sometimes prefer viewing content on the Max. The OLED color is that good to me not present on those televisions, even though they are stellar.
A family member told me he views all his internet and Youtube content on his iPhone, he doesn't have a computer. He is viewing content constantly on his iPhone.
I guess you weren't aware of the days where Steve Jobs was surprised even that many people were viewing lots of content on their iPod Videos with a 2.5" 320×240 QVGA screen.
People view LOTS of content on their mobile devices.
I think we still have a disconnect here.
OK, let me phrase the question this way: if sub 1080p on a 6.1” display is “nasty” - why do you find that same pixel density (326 ppi) acceptable on a 4.7” display?
Those screens will look exactly the same from equal distances. In this case, the resolution will be higher on the 6.1” screen (it has to be, in order to maintain the same pixel density). But the detail/text/images on each display will look the same.
I feel like there’s a good analogy on the tip of my tongue that would better illustrate the relationship between pixel density & resolution, but it’s eluding me. Hopefully it will hit me shortly.