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Bring back the gold. After owning so many black phones and so many cars with black interiors I have tired of black and neutral colors in general. So I got the gold 14 Pro. I want some bling to brighten my day!
 
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Yup. Despite all the people who question the value of upgrades, I see no problem with it either.

I think of it this way: my phone is my hub for all things communication (voice and text), entertainment (streaming, games), financial, retail (including dining), travel (schedules, tickets, boarding passes, cruise ship daily planner), smart home (cameras, HVAC, doorbell), fitness tracking, news and weather, social media, alarm clock, it even has a compass and a measuring tape that I use. No other consumer product in my home other than a desktop/laptop has such versatility. So yeah, for all of it's utility, it can be worth having the latest and greatest model.

ETA: I even use my phone to schedule the WiFi pet food dispensers. The only thing it can't do is cook my dinner lol.

This is my thought process exactly. I use my phone to manage so much of my daily life from travel, banking, communicating with family & friends, making purchases, taking photographs.

It's such an integral part of my daily life, it makes sense to me to have the best version of it I can in my hand every day.
 
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In the long run maybe, but not if supply is limited. Look at DRAM pricing for example.
I used to purchase DRAMs, DIMMS, SIMMS etc. (among other hardware) for Apple until 2014. Let me tell you there are fortunes made during the boom/bust cycles in the chipmaking industry. Companies like TSMC, Micron Tech, Hyinx, and others collude to cripple supply in order to boost margins. Then when prices go up, they inevitably overproduce, causing a glut, and prices collapse. In my 11 years doing that job, I saw prices cut in half in a period of 2-3 weeks, and double in the same time frame. I was able to maintain a fairly stable cost of goods by hedging on futures, but the markets are so volatile it was hard to insure getting the best possible deals without a crystal ball to know how many Apple would need and when!
 
I used to purchase DRAMs, DIMMS, SIMMS etc. (among other hardware) for Apple until 2014. Let me tell you there are fortunes made during the boom/bust cycles in the chipmaking industry. Companies like TSMC, Micron Tech, Hyinx, and others collude to cripple supply in order to boost margins. Then when prices go up, they inevitably overproduce, causing a glut, and prices collapse. In my 11 years doing that job, I saw prices cut in half in a period of 2-3 weeks, and double in the same time frame. I was able to maintain a fairly stable cost of goods by hedging on futures, but the markets are so volatile it was hard to insure getting the best possible deals without a crystal ball to know how many Apple would need and when!
I know. It still means that prices go up when demand goes up and/or supply goes down.
 
back in the old days competitors reduced prices and others followed. These days it’s the opposite.
That's not even remotely true. It works in both directions and always has. There's nothing "these days" that is different than what happened in "those days." The markets are efficient long term. Supply and demand laws always prevail, even during times of ill-advised government manipulation of free markets.
 
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"Despite the increased costs, Apple did not increase the retail prices of any of its ‌‌iPhone‌‌ 15 models last year."

Apple has been "paying" for a lot of inflation over time rather than passing on to consumers. Some of this is offset by reduced component prices and other efficiencies, but it's likely at some point Apple has to increase prices.
They have been generous enough to drop the charger and the headphones from the package. Lucky those were totally free for them to begin with, and now if (when) I need them I get to pay 50e extra! Yay! Well, even more if I buy apple branded stuff.

The have been raising prices constantly, and when they haven't they have reduced the amount of junk in the package so in a sense they have been constantly raising prices. The end result is that at least I only buy a new phone when I have to. Previously I bought it whenever one became available. Now there's not much change and the prices are just crazy.
 
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In Australia the iPhone 14 Pro to 15 Pro increased by $150 from $1899 to $2049.

I'll expect it to go up again this year because only Apple can spit in everyone's faces while inflation and cost of living are at their highest........and we think you're gonna love it🙄.
It went up because either; your government put the tariffs up, or the inflation (again created by your government) made the Australian $ weaker......It has nothing to do with Apple putting prices up!
 
And the iPhone is sufficiently differentiated? How so? Just because it runs iOS?

Otherwise Samsung and other Android manufactures offer very competitive offerings to Apple's flagship offerings.

iPhone SE and older iPhone's are in the lineup because competition is putting pressure on Apple to offer something or else lose that segment entirely.
How about privacy & security or Face ID, The Eco system, better value retention!
Would you like more?
 
How many casual people use more than 128GB? It should stay at $999 just to be competitive. Most people are not financially smart they only care about the monthly payment, not the total which means people don't care about the price as much. I care about the total price since I usually sell my iPhone yearly and try to get the most while other people think there getting a free upgrade from their carrier but little do they know that nothing is free.
So you try to get the most for your used iPhone and yet you begrudge Apple the same?
 
Yup. Despite all the people who question the value of upgrades, I see no problem with it either.

I think of it this way: my phone is my hub for all things communication (voice and text), entertainment (streaming, games), financial, retail (including dining), travel (schedules, tickets, boarding passes, cruise ship daily planner), smart home (cameras, HVAC, doorbell), fitness tracking, news and weather, social media, alarm clock, it even has a compass and a measuring tape that I use. No other consumer product in my home other than a desktop/laptop has such versatility. So yeah, for all of it's utility, it can be worth having the latest and greatest model.

ETA: I even use my phone to schedule the WiFi pet food dispensers. The only thing it can't do is cook my dinner lol.
I doubt a desk top has a built in measuring tape 😊
 
You forget Apple's steadily increasing prices.

Apple prices aren't necessarily "steadily increasing." For example, the starting price of an iPhone 12 (64GB) was $829 which was the same starting price as an iPhone 13 which was the same starting price as an iPhone 14 which was the same starting price as an iPhone 15 and each (13 to 15) had twice the storage (128GB) as the 12.

Pro models are another example. The starting price of an iPhone 11 Pro (64GB) was $999 which was the same starting price as an iPhone 12 Pro which was the same starting price as an iPhone 13 Pro which was the same starting price as an iPhone 14 Pro which was the same starting price as an iPhone 15 Pro and each (12 to 15) had twice the storage (128GB) as the 11.
 
How many casual people use more than 128GB? It should stay at $999 just to be competitive. Most people are not financially smart they only care about the monthly payment, not the total which means people don't care about the price as much. I care about the total price since I usually sell my iPhone yearly and try to get the most while other people think there getting a free upgrade from their carrier but little do they know that nothing is free.

If buyers care about monthly payments then they still care about price. Assuming 24 months at 0% APR, $45.79/month ($1,099) would still be 10% higher than $41.63/month ($999).
 
How about privacy & security or Face ID, The Eco system, better value retention!
Would you like more?

All to justify spending $1000 on the iPhone over spending $1000 on a similar Samsung.

But, not enough to justify increasing the price of the iPhone with increased competition.
 
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Apple prices aren't necessarily "steadily increasing." For example, the starting price of an iPhone 12 (64GB) was $829 which was the same starting price as an iPhone 13 which was the same starting price as an iPhone 14 which was the same starting price as an iPhone 15 and each (13 to 15) had twice the storage (128GB) as the 12.

Pro models are another example. The starting price of an iPhone 11 Pro (64GB) was $999 which was the same starting price as an iPhone 12 Pro which was the same starting price as an iPhone 13 Pro which was the same starting price as an iPhone 14 Pro which was the same starting price as an iPhone 15 Pro and each (12 to 15) had twice the storage (128GB) as the 11.
That was a joke about Apple wanting your firstborn as well as your soul. It really didn't warrant a long, serious reply to 'correct' me.
 
That's not even remotely true. It works in both directions and always has. There's nothing "these days" that is different than what happened in "those days." The markets are efficient long term. Supply and demand laws always prevail, even during times of ill-advised government manipulation of free markets.
Supply and demand do indeed prevail. You mention government intervention, however you also don’t mention price rigging which is done often here in the USA.
 
Supply and demand do indeed prevail. You mention government intervention, however you also don’t mention price rigging which is done often here in the USA.
Don't be that guy! Please elucidate and tell us with whom is Apple colluding to rig prices, and what is your evidence?
 
In my opinion, mainly because of the ecosystem, but also a combination of great support (apple stores), longer software support, excellent build quality, apple silicon etc. When you put all these factors together, you quickly realise that Apple doesn't just sell a smartphone. They sell an experience made possible by their control over hardware, software and services.

This is ultimately the biggest threat to Apple's competitors. Anyone can make a smartphone, but practices like the DMA show that the competition have all but given up on trying to replicate their own ecosystem
Yes! That is exactly why I am in the process of leaving Apple. I’ve had macs since the SE classic, iPhones since the 2nd gen, iPods, air pods, max and pros, ihome, watches, etc. I appreciate cutting edge, innovative technology and the ability to customize. I also appreciate value and not being treated as a locked in consumer of their ‘ecosystem’. After building a badass desktop last fall that still blows me away instead of buying a studio, my eyes have been opened. Remember that 1984 Apple commercial where the guy throws the sledgehammer at the movie screen of facist conformity? Ironically, that’s how I feel breaking away from Apples inflated, conformist, bloated ‘ecosystem’. The only question now is OnePlus, S24 Ultra or the new pixel 9pro? Cook has got to go.
 
Yes! That is exactly why I am in the process of leaving Apple. I’ve had macs since the SE classic, iPhones since the 2nd gen, iPods, air pods, max and pros, ihome, watches, etc. I appreciate cutting edge, innovative technology and the ability to customize. I also appreciate value and not being treated as a locked in consumer of their ‘ecosystem’. After building a badass desktop last fall that still blows me away instead of buying a studio, my eyes have been opened. Remember that 1984 Apple commercial where the guy throws the sledgehammer at the movie screen of facist conformity? Ironically, that’s how I feel breaking away from Apples inflated, conformist, bloated ‘ecosystem’. The only question now is OnePlus, S24 Ultra or the new pixel 9pro? Cook has got to go.
And I sincerely wish you all the best.

For me, the Apple ecosystem is still working great for me. I am still happily mirroring my iPad to my Apple TV more than 10 years later. I am still airdropping files left and right, syncing files via iCloud, and just yesterday, the developer of the "Reeder" app dropped a significant update to his app, which I subscribed immediately.


And oh yeah, it's an iOS / macOS only app.

At this point in my life, I want things to work more than I want them to be cheap or open or customisable or whatever it is the competition supposedly does better than Apple.
 
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All to justify spending $1000 on the iPhone over spending $1000 on a similar Samsung.

But, not enough to justify increasing the price of the iPhone with increased competition.
There's nothing to justify. Like I said - the free market will take care of that well enough. :)
 
That was a joke about Apple wanting your firstborn as well as your soul. It really didn't warrant a long, serious reply to 'correct' me.

I obviously knew the "firstborn" sentence in your post was a joke which is why I didn't quote that part in my reply. I did assume you thought Apple had been steadily increasing prices, especially given you had complained about greedy Apple's price increases before.
 
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