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How Organized Are Your Movies? - Screenshots!

cookieme said:
Now what confuses me is that IF you acquire movies online (illegally, i.e. torrent or otherwise) and the movie is in a format not compatible with Apple TV, then you would have to transcode into another format. Handbrake seems to be the best application for any encoding whether from original source or already encoded file, but what I don't understand is why there doesn't seem to be any support for it on Handbrake's forum. Again in my opinion this is just as illegal as encoding a movie which you have rented or purchased.

I welcome any clarification. Thanks.
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In my opinion it comes down to ethics not legality, people are technically breaking the law all the time but no one cares, e.g. jay walking.

Here are some examples which I believe are ethically sound.

  1. Copying a DVD that you own for watching on a device that does not support DVDs. You bought the DVD, paying the copyright holders there due, and continue to own the DVD.
  2. Copying a rented DVD for watching a a different time to that of which you rented. You paid the copyright holders by virtue of the rental fee.
  3. You miss a copy of a TV show on TV (which you are paying for via licensing fees or advertising) and download a copy of that show via bittorrent.

What I don't do or condone is subsequent sharing of these files, or downloading of shows which are not otherwise available yet.

An example of a boundary case with (3) is that I can't watch "Top Gear" where I live because the channel which has the rights to broadcast it is not available on DVB-T, only DVB-S and Analog. So I download and watch it instead.

As far as HandBrake is concerned, the big bad wolf is less likely to come after you if you if you aren't facilitating the reduction of their members (and also their own) licensing fees. Plus there is the warm and fuzzy feeling you get by being ethically sound, and feeding the mouths of all the wonderful producers of the entertainment that we watch (my opinion).

Cheers, Ed.
 
eddyg said:
  • Copying a rented DVD for watching a a different time to that of which you rented. You paid the copyright holders by virtue of the rental fee.
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In my opinion, this one is not ethical unless you only watch it within a one-week (or whatever you originally paid for) timeframe, and then delete it. This could be a week that happens to be a year after you originally rented it, but if you rented it for 7 days, you should only allow yourself access to it for 7 consecutive days after the first viewing.

Otherwise, it's a permanent or semi-permanent copy which is outside of what you originally paid for.
 
eddyg said:
In my opinion it comes down to ethics not legality, people are technically breaking the law all the time but no one cares, e.g. jay walking.

Here are some examples which I believe are ethically sound.

  1. Copying a DVD that you own for watching on a device that does not support DVDs. You bought the DVD, paying the copyright holders there due, and continue to own the DVD.
  2. Copying a rented DVD for watching a a different time to that of which you rented. You paid the copyright holders by virtue of the rental fee.
  3. You miss a copy of a TV show on TV (which you are paying for via licensing fees or advertising) and download a copy of that show via bittorrent.

What I don't do or condone is subsequent sharing of these files, or downloading of shows which are not otherwise available yet.

An example of a boundary case with (3) is that I can't watch "Top Gear" where I live because the channel which has the rights to broadcast it is not available on DVB-T, only DVB-S and Analog. So I download and watch it instead.
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I completely agree, I have no problem downloading a show that I already pay for or can obtain for free in a legal manner. For instance I can watch the office via my over the air antenna for free but when I miss an episode I see no problem in downloading that show via bit-torrent. Again with Top Gear I have no issues with downloading that show because it is not available for me to watch on any channel. However when I want to watch Top Chef that airs on bravo, I purchase it from the iTunes store. I also have no moral issue with ripping the DVD's I own to watch on my iPhone or Apple TV. Ripping rented movies is kind of a gray area for me. I knew to many people who would use netflix to build a dvd collection. If you can rip them and watch them, then delete them I see no issue with it.
 
Sky Blue said:
So... how organized are your movies?
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Very.

From A to Z & 0 to 9, MetaX and HandBrake are my best friends.

Movies:
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TV Shows:
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Cheers, Ed.
 
eddyg said:
Very.

From A to Z & 0 to 9, MetaX and HandBrake are my best friends.

Movies:
20090324-cjc7qqjk4ufs4ka3qt7qqx82st.preview.jpg


TV Shows:
20090324-mt5j5rja1k36ggekaa1haykfy5.preview.jpg


Cheers, Ed.
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Movies: 119 items, 9.7 days, 263.58 GB

TV Shows: 118 TV shows, 37.2 days, 769.09 GB

Would be more if I didn't throw away a bunch of my older movie encodes (and run out of space on my NAS). The latter problem will be fixed soon as I'm currently expanding my 4x500GB array with 4x1TB Western Digital Green drives (enclosure is a Netgear ReadyNAS NV+).
 
NightStorm said:
Movies: 119 items, 9.7 days, 263.58 GB

TV Shows: 118 TV shows, 37.2 days, 769.09 GB

Would be more if I didn't throw away a bunch of my older movie encodes (and run out of space on my NAS). The latter problem will be fixed soon as I'm currently expanding my 4x500GB array with 4x1TB Western Digital Green drives (enclosure is a Netgear ReadyNAS NV+).
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wow wish i could afford a NAS :(:(
 
northy124 said:
Nope sure as hell didn't but tbh it is kinda cool, and in HD it rocks :p
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You say that most of your movies are in HD, but you haven't used up much hard drive space with those movies. I thought HD movies were around 3 or 4 gigs a piece, are you just ripping them at a lower quality?
 
Well tbh 4GB is a bit much and 3000Kbps (varies depending on source) looks just as good as some 4500Kbps+ one
 
northy124 said:
AnyDVD HD;) and I used HandBrake for encoding, also used RipBot as well which was OK for just one encode lol
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Would it be possible to take a screenshot of the pic settings you are using in Handbrake. I too am in the process of converting a large amount of blu ray movies but worried about the encoding process. I would hate to encode them all and end up with a bad pic.

I read through all the threads but they just confuse me more. LOL. Thanks!
 
OK don't have a screen shot to show you but this is how I do my encodes:
  1. Get the original .m2ts/.mkv
  2. Open MediaInfo Mac
  3. Drag file to MediaInfo Mac
  4. Look for the bitrate the original .m2ts/.mkv is encoded at
  5. Get a calculator
  6. Divide the original bitrate by 2/3/4/5/6/7/8 (it depends what bitrate you are aiming for and what the original bitrate was)
    • Say I had a file at 27 340 Kbps, I would divided that by 8 to get 3 417 Kbps as that is what I want to encode it as, I could of done 6 and gotten 4 556 Kbps if I wanted a large file but 3 417 Kbps gave me 4.01GB as it was (and 4GB is quite a bit lol) so I when with that and it still looks great at the bitrate in 720p :D
  7. Get the number that shows on calculator and open HandBrake
  8. Add file to HandBrake
  9. Change settings to .mp4/.mkv, H.264 encoding, 2 pass at whatever the number on calculator was, Audio AC3/AAC 5.1 channels (both tracks as AC3 needs AAC to play apparently)
  10. Go to picture settings > set the res at 1280x528/720 (depends on source)
  11. Double check everything, do a test one first if needed
  12. Click add to queue or encode
  13. Wait until it is done, I do it at night so when I wake up it is done.
  14. Tag with MetaX and then add subtitles/chapters with Subler
  15. Add to iTunes
 
Can someone please help me with this...

I downloaded a couple albums with interactive booklets and they are showing up in the album (where I want them) and in the movies section of my itunes library (where I DO NOT want them). Has this happened to anyone else? Is there a way I can remove them from the movie section without deleting them completely? Thanks in advance.. :D:apple:
 
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