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How to convince my friends to get an iMac?

TSE

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Hey iMac fans.

A lot of my friends went the Mac mini + Apple Studio Display route, which as we all know is an utterly foolish thing to do compared to getting an iMac.



I've tried to convince them a few different ways:

-I've let them know that Apple has an amazing trade-in policy where they will put credit towards a new iMac when they turn in their Mac mini & Studio Display

-Held nice dinner parties that while the wives are in the kitchen preparing, I give my friends a test drive of the iMac and show them how much better it is than the mac mini + studio display

-Utilize Apple's AR feature to show them how much more improved their setup looks with an iMac - less cables, clutter, and colors that make their interior pop

-Offered $100 out of my pocket toward a new iMac to anyone that does it

-I've even tried to circumvent their refusal by trying to get their spouses to do it behind their backs - one of them couldn't go through with it but wanted to do something else without their partner's knowledge!



Does anyone else have any further ideas on how to convince my friends to get an iMac?
 
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Apple_Robert said:
In my opinion, your actions are not what I would consider normal behavior. If I was one of those friends, I would tell you to back off immediately. And if you didn’t, you would no longer be a friend. Your actions are toxic.
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Well said, and I am in complete agreement with you.

@TSE: Why this compulsive need to "convince" your friends to follow a certain course of action?

State your preference, - and possibly the reasons behind it - and leave them to make up their own minds as to their own preferred purchases.

Personally, I dislike anyone who is evangelical about anything, be it cars, computers, politics, religion.......

By way of response, initially, I will switch off, change the subject, gaze into the distance, (if courtesy determines the outcome), or, more proactively, will take steps to put an end to the conversation, perhaps pick up a book, mention music, and, if the individual persists, make a point of distancing myself and being busy and unavailable in the future.

The nuclear option of a curt, terse, - and, if necessary, a blunt - response also exists.

In any case, I don't much care for being told what to do, or passionately and perfervidly "convinced" to follow a specific course of action, be it a purchase, or any other action.

I will note a recommendation - in that I will listen, - especially if I respect the source - and may even heed it, but I reserve the right to determine my own actions, and deeply dislike (and will resist) any attempts which resemble being hectored, lectured, convinced, controlled....
 
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TSE said:
Hey iMac fans.

A lot of my friends went the Mac mini + Apple Studio Display route, which as we all know is an utterly foolish thing to do compared to getting an iMac.



I've tried to convince them a few different ways:

-I've let them know that Apple has an amazing trade-in policy where they will put credit towards a new iMac when they turn in their Mac mini & Studio Display

-Held nice dinner parties that while the wives are in the kitchen preparing, I give my friends a test drive of the iMac and show them how much better it is than the mac mini + studio display

-Utilize Apple's AR feature to show them how much more improved their setup looks with an iMac - less cables, clutter, and colors that make their interior pop

-Offered $100 out of my pocket toward a new iMac to anyone that does it

-I've even tried to circumvent their refusal by trying to get their spouses to do it behind their backs - one of them couldn't go through with it but wanted to do something else without their partner's knowledge!



Does anyone else have any further ideas on how to convince my friends to get an iMac?
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Very funny. Pull the other one, lol.
 
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hg.wells said:
Love my Studio Display!
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I love my BenQ 5k display. 🙂

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As for the OP's writing on this thread: some of my family members would not use iPhones and Macs or anything made by Apple. In fact, one of my daughters, and one grandson would not even accept iPhones as Christmas presents from my wife and I. They use Android phones, while my son-in-law uses an iPhone and a PC for home and work use.

The best thing to do for friends and family members is to not try convince them to buy or use anything they don't want to, and this applies not only to computers and phones, but automobiles and everything else. There is nothing wrong with one telling what one prefers to buy of use, but not every one of us wants the exact same things. For example, when comparing the monitor I mentioned above to a Studio, I had numerous reasons that led to buy it instead of the Studio display.
 
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TSE said:
A lot of my friends went the Mac mini + Apple Studio Display route, which as we all know is an utterly foolish thing to do compared to getting an iMac.
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My natural reaction is 'No, it's not' (and I wouldn't cough up the money for an ASD), but it really depends on what standard or standards you compare to.

With the Mini + ASD, you pay a lot more money but get a 27" display over a 24", that you can forward to your next computer when up upgrade in some years, and you get spatial audio (granted an external speaker set that can match or top that shouldn't be difficult, but then again, ditching the speakers may have more decluttering impact that getting rid of some cables going with the iMac).

With the iMac, it's M4, Thunderbolt 4 and gigabit ethernet; with the Mini, you get upgraded options with the M4Pro, Thunderbolt 5 and 10 gigabit ethernet.

The Mini gives you options. If I were buying with the budget they used, I'd skip the ASD and get an Asus 32" 6K display, most likely.

I'm using a 27" Dell display now, and do not want a smaller one.
 
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While I have totally enjoyed the two iMacs I've owned, it is, respectfully, time to move on.

When my current iMac is retired, I will likely go with a mini or studio plus Apple (or other) display. Makes a lot of sense in today's market.

Why you feel the need to be so evangelical about your personal choices is a mystery to me.
 
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i dont like the 24 inch screen on the M1, pretty sure after this iMac there will be something else.

the old 27 inch 2014 i7 imac is in the kitchen for morning news and that, it is so much nicer to look at that screen,

while 32 inch screens are becoming more common nobody fed this data into Apple Intelligence.
 
New iMacs are bad, like they look bad, the design is UGLY comparing it to old ones with black border, and there's a lot of issues with their display cable where display tends to fail. I switched personally from iMac 2019 to Mac Studio and I had 4 iMacs before that
 
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New iMacs are bad, like they look bad, the design is UGLY comparing it to old ones with black border, and there's a lot of issues with their display cable where display tends to fail. I switched personally from iMac 2019 to Mac Studio and I had 4 iMacs before that
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In my view the new iMac's screen is too thin and bright, which makes it more difficult to stay cool when energized for a long period of time. It should also be more fragile. All of the internal electrical components crammed inside of the iMac generate quite a lot of heat. Apple has created a "pretty and delicate" device, but that's about it. I am still using a 2019 iMac (27" screen). I purchased it with a 2TB HD, and the minimum amount of of RAM offered by Apple. Later I purchased enough RAM modules from Crucial to increate the amount of total RAM to the maximum possible for this Mac.

I am not against what others may want or need to buy, but I would never waste money on any computer designed like the post 2019-20 iMac. I don't want a fragile little thing for work, but a workhorse.

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i dont like the 24 inch screen on the M1, pretty sure after this iMac there will be something else.

the old 27 inch 2014 i7 imac is in the kitchen for morning news and that, it is so much nicer to look at that screen,

while 32 inch screens are becoming more common nobody fed this data into Apple Intelligence.
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A 27" computer monitor is the minimum I would use for photo editing and similar tasks. In fact, I could use a 32" monitor for my Mac Studio, but I just don't have enough room for it on my desk. The 2019 iMac I mention above is sitting on a narrow desk at the right side of my main desk, and the 27" BenQ monitor being used with my Mac Studio is in front of me on my desk.
 
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TSE said:
Hey iMac fans.

A lot of my friends went the Mac mini + Apple Studio Display route, which as we all know is an utterly foolish thing to do compared to getting an iMac.



I've tried to convince them a few different ways:

-I've let them know that Apple has an amazing trade-in policy where they will put credit towards a new iMac when they turn in their Mac mini & Studio Display

-Held nice dinner parties that while the wives are in the kitchen preparing, I give my friends a test drive of the iMac and show them how much better it is than the mac mini + studio display

-Utilize Apple's AR feature to show them how much more improved their setup looks with an iMac - less cables, clutter, and colors that make their interior pop

-Offered $100 out of my pocket toward a new iMac to anyone that does it

-I've even tried to circumvent their refusal by trying to get their spouses to do it behind their backs - one of them couldn't go through with it but wanted to do something else without their partner's knowledge!



Does anyone else have any further ideas on how to convince my friends to get an iMac?
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Get dumber friends. Yours are far too smart than to buy iMacs.
;~)
 
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dude, purple iPhone and iMacs, I assume my friends get either what they need or want (maybe over estimating their logical skills but accepting their taste). my wife bought a purple iPhone ( she told me it was the best of the colors available at the local store ) so I'm chill with the color - chill out on the iMacs , I think the only type of Mac I haven't owned is an air - my all time favorite was the tower (twin g5's).
 
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TSE said:
A lot of my friends went the Mac mini + Apple Studio Display route, which as we all know is an utterly foolish thing to do compared to getting an iMac.
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So.. you're trying to convince friends who have already spent money on a Mac setup that they (presumably) are happy with already?

TSE said:
I've let them know that Apple has an amazing trade-in policy where they will put credit towards a new iMac when they turn in their Mac mini & Studio Display
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Even with the trade-in, this will cost more than just keeping what they have and are happy with (which costs.. let me see.. ahh - Zero dollars and zero cents.)

TSE said:
-Held nice dinner parties that while the wives are in the kitchen preparing, I give my friends a test drive of the iMac and show them how much better it is than the mac mini + studio display
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And this is probably what they saw:
- Colourful slab on a stand instead of plain aluminum slab on a stand with a small brick beside it.
- Slightly cleaner cable setup if you don't plug anything into your iMac except a power cord. Slightly messier cable setup if you do.
- Same keyboard
- Same pointing device
- Smaller screen

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-Offered $100 out of my pocket toward a new iMac to anyone that does it
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Still cheaper to just stay put.

TSE said:
-I've even tried to circumvent their refusal by trying to get their spouses to do it behind their backs - one of them couldn't go through with it but wanted to do something else without their partner's knowledge!
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Ooh. Scandalous.

You know what would probably work better would be to convince the spouse that they need an iMac of their own instead of trying to get them to change the (presumably) shared computer to an iMac. Of course, what would usually happen in that case is that due to probably not having a spare desk in the house, that spouse would probably just opt for a laptop, which is really the better choice for most people than an iMac.

TSE said:
Does anyone else have any further ideas on how to convince my friends to get an iMac?
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That's a tough one. Right now the "colour" thing is the only real selling point, but it really mostly only seems to work on "real" Mac users. Most "normies" out there tend to pay more attention to the front of their computers rather than the back of them.
 
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on 2nd thought on this topic,
the 24 inch iMac is the 'how to give them less and charge the same' intelligence,
when was the last 24 inch imac, 2009? and there was an option to get 27 inch,
if they add touch screen to 24 inch they can call it I'mIpad 🙂
 
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Had an iMac as our first apple system.(a 2014 I7, IIRC) GPU died for lack of cooling. I would hope they are much better cooled these days. Mini M4 Pro, Benq 38" Mobius 4K. Yes there are 3 cables, a small price to pay for the options I looked at. I did check out the iMac selection and chose what was best for my situation. Perhaps their situation is such that what they have works just fine for them. Just my nickels worth, pennies are going away.
 
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ScanPro said:
Had an iMac as our first apple system.(a 2014 I7, IIRC) GPU died for lack of cooling. I would hope they are much better cooled these days. Mini M4 Pro, Benq 38" Mobius 4K. Yes there are 3 cables, a small price to pay for the options I looked at. I did check out the iMac selection and chose what was best for my situation. Perhaps their situation is such that what they have works just fine for them. Just my nickels worth, pennies are going away.
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Yes, that big screen sure provides plenty of room for tree side-by-side open pages, and even scrolling up/down the page. Or just listening to your favorite music playlist on one page, and at the same time editing a photo on the other page 😀
 
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In my opinion, your actions are not what I would consider normal behavior. If I was one of those friends, I would tell you to back off immediately. And if you didn’t, you would no longer be a friend. Your actions are toxic.
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LOL exactly my thoughts as I was reading the original post. OP, what do you care so much about what they do?
 
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