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If a thief did this (followed all the instructions, which might contain enough information for a police report), they might be identifying themselves (with their Apple ID and current location) as being in possession of reported stolen property.
If a thief gets the message that he is being tracked, he can just look for the Tag an throw it away - without disabling it.
 
Why would you follow someone and get risk getting caught when you can surreptitiously just slip a tracker in their bag and get to them later....?
So you prefer leaving evidence (your AirTags) behind than discreetly follow your subject from afar? Getting caught? What a chance of it if you keep your distance from your subject? Almost none. Having evidence in her purse? Almost 100%.
 
What we can not infer from this picture is if this is the first time an alert has been received or the fourth or fifth (going by the dots it has detected it).
Good point. I assume those dots are detection points, which gives an idea on how often it checks.

what this does tell us (assuming it is reflective of real world setup) is that alerts start within the hour. As you say, they may have started before this point.
 
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You have to risk yourself getting close to your subject to put your AirTags in her bag instead of observing from afar.

I think most women would tell you that there is no shortage of men who already get uncomfortably close to them in bars... Heck, I’m a man and I’ve had guys get uncomfortably close to me in very creepy ways in clubs before... I don’t think “risking themselves by getting close” to someone they’d like to track is gonna be much of a deterrent for those men when they already do it and when it is, sadly, somewhat of a common behavior.


Knowing someone's home? That's very easy.

Just because it can be easy without AirTag, Apple should potentially let people use AirTag to do it?
 
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If your iphone battery runs out on the train you lose connection to the airtag. You then have an as yet unknown amount of time before the mob on the train disable your airtag. Presumably you can reactivate the airtag later else that’ll be annoying.

I’m hoping its at least 4 hours as i wanted one to go in my car, assuming the metal shell of the car doesn’t shield the signal.
I think your understanding of “disable” is not correct. Let me illustrate using your scenario.

A - owner of airtag
B - person on train
C- person on train
D - other person who you met after you disembarked from the train

Assuming you power off your phone, the airtag will assume it is not with the owner (A).

After a period of time, both B and C will receive notification that an unknown airtag is tracking them. When they click disable, they are simply disabling the link to their iPhones. It does not mean they can disable the airtag entirely, as they are not the user.

When you disembark and walk past D, the airtag will then hitch onto D’s iPhone. Meaning that you will know that your airtag last known location then, which will be the place you crossed path with D
 
Your AirTags can not be traced back to you
I wouldn't be so sure.
If an unknown AirTag is found to be moving with you, follow the steps below to disable the AirTag and stop sharing your location:
  1. Tap the "AirTag Found Moving With You" message.
  2. Tap on Continue.
  3. Tap on Instructions to Disable AirTag and follow the on-screen steps.
In a new support document, Apple says users who feel their safety is at risk should contact their local law enforcement, who can work with Apple. You might need to provide the AirTag or its serial number, according to Apple.
 
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Yes, except that all Apple shots of iPhones say 9:41, so we can't necessarily tell from that. But it is the closest we have so far.
So they do.

the timings are fairly consistent with the journey though I believe (not been to SF for a while).

I think the main point is that this would be an odd picture to have if in fact it took hours or days to send the alert.
 
Why can't they go on a dog? I would imagine dogs/cats would be the most lucrative potential market for these things. Can you imagine the tens of thousands of collar designs from third parties?
If the AirTag is not close to the owner and is moving it will start beeping. So not for pets.
 
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I think a bigger issue is them alerting people on public transport along with you. Worse, a subset of those people are going to be either confused or deliberately annoying and are going to disable your tracker.
The Apple website says that this won’t happen. The device needs to have been separated from its owner for this mode to kick in.
 
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I think your understanding of “disable” is not correct. Let me illustrate using your scenario.

A - owner of airtag
B - person on train
C- person on train
D - other person who you met after you disembarked from the train

Assuming you power off your phone, the airtag will assume it is not with the owner (A).

After a period of time, both B and C will receive notification that an unknown airtag is tracking them. When they click disable, they are simply disabling the link to their iPhones. It does not mean they can disable the airtag entirely, as they are not the user.

When you disembark and walk past D, the airtag will then hitch onto D’s iPhone. Meaning that you will know that your airtag last known location then, which will be the place you crossed path with D
I’m not sure that is how it works.

If the tag is being used to track someone then in your scenario then walking past someone with a phone would give away their location, and even worse at this point they think they have solved the problem.
I would have thought that disabling means totally disabling.
 
I think your understanding of “disable” is not correct. Let me illustrate using your scenario.

A - owner of airtag
B - person on train
C- person on train
D - other person who you met after you disembarked from the train

Assuming you power off your phone, the airtag will assume it is not with the owner (A).

After a period of time, both B and C will receive notification that an unknown airtag is tracking them. When they click disable, they are simply disabling the link to their iPhones. It does not mean they can disable the airtag entirely, as they are not the user.

When you disembark and walk past D, the airtag will then hitch onto D’s iPhone. Meaning that you will know that your airtag last known location then, which will be the place you crossed path with D
Unfortunately in the support document it’s written you can mute the notifications you get AND disable the tracking of an unknown AirTag.
 
If the AirTag is not close to the owner and is moving it will start beeping. So not for pets.
How much movement? A dog moving within the confines of a house or yard while you are at work, or the dog just moving his head?
 
If the AirTag is not close to the owner and is moving it will start beeping. So not for pets.
If a dog is far enough from its owner to be considered lost then why would this be an issue...? It would just alert people nearby that the dog is lost.

EDIT: Does it actually only play sounds if it is with a person with an iPhone?

AirTag is designed to discourage unwanted tracking. If someone else’s AirTag finds its way into your stuff, your iPhone will notice it’s traveling with you and send you an alert. After a while, if you still haven’t found it, the AirTag will start playing a sound to let you know it’s there.

So another question arises: Can an AirTag notice that it is travelling away from its owner only if another device picks up on it...? Or will it engage beep mode simply if it's away from you?
 
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Unfortunately in the support document it’s written you can mute the notifications you get AND disable the tracking of an unknown AirTag.
Mute the the notifications to you, and disable tracking to you! Because you are not the owner.

It will stop irritating the hell out of you, and also address your privacy concerns.

Apple would be crazy to allow strangers to disable tracking.
 
Mute the the notifications to you, and disable tracking to you! Because you are not the owner.

It will stop irritating the hell out of you, and also address your privacy concerns.

Apple would be crazy to allow strangers to disable tracking.
It clearly states under point 5 you can disable the sharing of your location.
 
It clearly states under point 5 you can disable the sharing of your location.
Yes. You are being tracked and you are disabling the sharing of your location by your iPhone.

Nothing about you disabling the sharing of others’ locations (even if they are near to you).
 
I assume that if your airtag has been disabled then you would be able to re-enable it at a later point.

The concern is that you are tracking someone when you are not there. Your presence removes that risk so I assume you will be able to reset.
 
Basically they’re useless at finding stolen goods 🤦‍♂️
The behaviour might be a bit different if you put them in lost mode. Movement patterns probably are also different between iTags in stolen items and those trying to track others, eg, thieves might deposit stolen items at their home instead of carry them around with them for more then a couple of hours.
 
Problem is with AirTags... and a huge flaw with them is... you can just remove the battery... this makes them a no from me, I was hoping to use them in things like a bag or wallet for theft reasons... but a removable battery destroys it being used for this purpose.
I don't see what difference that makes - any thief who knows it's there is just going to remove and ditch/destroy the AirTag, they're not going to waste any time trying to take the battery out of it.
 
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