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How to Download Safari 17 Beta for macOS Ventura and Monterey
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Stock Safari is in /System/Volumes/Preboot/Cryptexes/App/System/Applications folder. Beta version should be in /Applications/ directory (just guessing)?
Haven't tried beta (actually for that exact reason - no documented uninstallation process) so no chance to try it by myself.
You can try revert system to state before instalation using Time Machine?
Running latest Sonoma beta on my M1 MBAir and it has Safari v17. Seen no issues. But will not but Safari beta on my main computer - M1 MacStudio.
only reason i installed it....and no web apps are to be found.
For some reason Safari on Mac has been buggy for me. I’ve had to use Firefox sometimes because Safari would take too long. (For context I’m on the Sonoma beta)
One of my banking sites (TD) does not work properly with Safari. The fix is easy for the user, but it's nevertheless annoying.
Not a fan of any of the alternative browsers.
Thank you. The thing is, since the implementation of focus modes, I never used them because I don’t quite get the grasp at it, so I rely on the mute switch; but yeah I should use them.
After creating a "profile" I saw the existing tab groups again 😀😀😀.
This new Safari at last supports Favicons, the sad grey look of the favorites bar had always prevented me to use it as my main browser. Now I will switch for sure - from Brave - as Safari is more energy/system efficient.
😆 what did you think it would honestly do?
Reinstall the Mac OS is my best guess. That will install Safari again. The non-beta version.
I’m in the U.S. and I know everyone’s use case experience is different but I also have used Safari exclusively for years and years and have never run into issues. In the early years there were surely some website compatibility issues but not in many years. Plus the Apple integration is fantastic, which is the added bonus for me.
I really, really want to like Profiles but right now, they seem a bit weird. I have 4 profiles set up and only sometimes it allows me to SWITCH between, other times it only offers to open a new window for a particular profile, even if there is an existing window for that profile open!
For a few years the whacky and non-standard thing I've been doing to make a site not work in Safari is to be on the same page for more than 5 minutes. Yes 99% of sites load in Safari and display pages well enough to pass compatibility tests however they break down in Safari when actually used.
Here's my short list
Monday.com --> boards with up to a couple dozen pulses load just fine, however when merely scrolling or opening a pulse performance falls apart. Boards with 50+ pulses are basically unusable in Safari.
YouTube.com --> watch history page lags hard after scrolling down a couple of screens and for several months would soft lock all of Safari if I dared scrolling down a single page. Still have to throw away a tab after watching a few videos.
getquantic.com --> Point of sale configuration site we use at work. Multiple functions like table view setup flat don't load at all. We've mentioned it to the developers and their only response is to use Chrome.
duda.co --> Last year their Black Friday sale had a spiffy animation that was so poorly coded it maxed out my Mac's CPU with a framerate measured in seconds-per-frame in Safari and didn't fare much better in Firefox. Their solution was to use Chrome or wait for the sale to be over.
cPanel hosted on Godaddy --> On Safari takes up to a minute to login and will randomly flat refuse to allow Safari to login. Firefox and Chrome login in less than 10 seconds and have never been refused.
These are just what I can think of at the moment. My anecdote to all of this for several years on my 2018 13-inch MBP Safari will generally heat up the hardware enough to spin up the fans even on basic pages like writing this comment and each example listed above often have the fans running at full. Meanwhile I'm writing this response in Firefox and my laptop is almost cool to the touch.
It was great, but I had some privacy issue with it. Can't remember exactly what right now. It was something fishy.
You mentioning Firefox reminded me of one thing Safari is terrible at, which is rendering huge files. Admittedly it's a niche use case but an HTML file over something like 10MB will basically leave Safari locked up for ages.
There is a big issue with AdGuard and pretty much all ad blocking extensions on Safari. A while back Apple introduced content blocking API in order to give extensions a way to block content without having access to website itself. Unfortunately due to the fact that Apple done nothing to improve this API since that point, most of websites already work around it. Youtube is the most prominent example here. To combat this, ad blocking extensions usually offer additional module that you can enable to block those more demanding websites. This script is basically injected straight into the website code and has access to everything you do there, and can do pretty much anything. This is very invasive on privacy, while still not offering the functionality of full ad blockers we had few years ago (like blocking tracking scrips from being downloaded).
In short, ad blocking on Safari offers no privacy while also leaking ads/tracking and through this double hurting your privacy. Fix would be either Apple works on their API further, or just restore features they removed years ago, for us to have trusted extensions like uBlock back.
Klarna. I sign in and it states "having problems". Then I try Chrome and no problem. It's been like that for weeks.
Signed up for an account, made a small purchase, no issues at all. So it’s back to you. What have you done to troubleshoot? Cleared cookies? Emptied caches? What? Like most you probably did nothing and assumed the site was not Safari compatible.
Geesh and I thought I was the president of the Apple fanboy club. LOL
Yes I tried clearing cookies and cache. I didn't try turning off Private Relay.
Installed the beta yesterday and loving it so far. Safari is my primary browser with Edge as my back-up. Not seeing any issues with the beta so far.