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How to force Apple to lower (r)MBPs price?
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hahahaha. lol. etc.
This is brutal but may help!
Please! If someone try it > please tell us > work or not?
hahahaha. lol. etc.
This is brutal but may help!
Please! If someone try it > please tell us > work or not?
Suppose it would depend if your a big burly bloke or a slim busty blonde
Yeah I'm just saying if apple is like Porsche then what OS X computers would be a Honda- you know, same reliability and general quality, but for the middle class? Right now apple is the only company that can use OS X...
I was going by the review on Notebook Review. If their information is incorrect, I apologize.
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And that's not going to change.
The cheapest OSX computer is the Mac Mini at $599. Next step up is the Air at 999. That's as Honda as it's going to get. Don't expect their top-of-the-line machines at less than top-of-the-line prices. Make trade-offs, buy refurb, buy used, switch to Windows or build a Hackintosh. Don't expect Apple to change a highly successful business model.
It would' t benefit Apple. You need to change your focus - outline how lowering prices will benefit Apple, then send the idea to them.
It would also help if you demonstrated how this would not affect their obligation to make insane profits by their shareholders.
Like many people said, supply and demand. I think Window's iPad killer was a great example.
You need to define what overpriced is. A billionaire will not think it's overpriced because they can afford it while homeless people think it's stupidly overpriced.
To normal people like me, i dont think its overpriced:
When I buy anything, I would weight it from different perspectives.
Is there similar product in the market? Yes for spec and maybe screen but not OS.
My last laptop was a 2007 white MB and it lasted 4 years and it still worked but I wanted an upgrade. Before that, I had 2 Sony VAIO laptop and each of them breaks down in 2 years. Note that they were more expensive than White MB. So if you calculate the cost of each year then it is definitely more expensive for run my previous VAIO.
You need to define what overpriced is. A billionaire will not think it's overpriced because they can afford it while homeless people think it's stupidly overpriced.
To normal people like me, i dont think its overpriced:
When I buy anything, I would weight it from different perspectives.
Is there similar product in the market? Yes for spec and maybe screen but not OS.
My last laptop was a 2007 white MB and it lasted 4 years and it still worked but I wanted an upgrade. Before that, I had 2 Sony VAIO laptop and each of them breaks down in 2 years. Note that they were more expensive than White MB. So if you calculate the cost of each year then it is definitely more expensive for run my previous VAIO.
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You get the same spec'd machine as the MBPr for $1495
Same processor (Intel® Core™ i7-4700MQ)
Same ram (8GB 1600MHz DDR3)
Same 256gb SSD (brand could be different)
1080p screen instead of Retina
Same ~15 inch screen size
Gaming designed laptop instead of Apple designed
Oh, and the big one, 770m Nvidia card (3GB GDDR5) instead of 650m (1GB GGDR5)
Idk about Europe, but $1500 vs $2200 is a big difference. Prices of the new macs are not even comparable, considering their specs.
If you guys think they're about equal, then you're definitely not shopping at the right places. Once you start bringing in factors like "But who else fits all this power into such a sleek design" and "Well the extra $700 is what you pay for the Mac OS experience" is when it starts to get more ambiguous. But the prices aren't even close.
The Retina MacBooks, are the lowest percent profit margin laptops that Apple has ever sold. Read that a few times if you need to.
There is no problem with the Retina's price, if you're complaining about it, it's because you are delusional and cannot comprehend value. The screen on the Retina 15" costs Apple more to procure than all the electronic parts in a base MacBook Pro 15" combined.
You get it in a plastic case that looks to be almost 2 inches thick. I'm also betting it doesn't run for 7 hours like a MBP either. It's not remotely comparable. It's a gaming machine, weighs 1.5 lb more and there's no mention of it having an IPS screen that I can find.
You can only fairly compare Macs to machines from big brands - Lenova, Asus, Dell, HP, Samsung, etc. that are built with similar quality, weight, battery life, etc.
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I believe the proper name is the ZunePad.
I think most Ferrari an Lamborghini owners would disagree the the assertion of perfection, and all Maserati owners definitely will. These cars (with the possible exception of a handful of the Ferraris) aren't even perfect when they're running - much less in their somewhat disconcertingly regular state of being on the way to or back from repair.
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I thought that was evident when I mentioned "Gaming design vs. Apple design". Also at the end where I said
It is true, like I said it's built for gaming, and definitely is thick and probably as heavy as my business law text book. But the point is still valid, as I said, given the comparable internal specs, the price is not even close.
If you want to compare sleek design, the Razer Blade computer is the thinnest laptop currently out, lighter than the MBPr, and is also cheaper. Only $200 difference there, so can't say the price is quite as distinguishable, as you don't get the retina screen, which is important.
You say that you think people are underestimating the power of social media...
I think you are OVERestimating. You're assuming, or trying to convince, everyone to feel the same way as you. We don't, and won't. People who are buying Apple computers already know the price they're paying. Would we like to pay less? Of course! I'd like it for free but that's not realistic, now is it? We're not unhappy enough with the price that we feel we need to complain.
You'd be better off asking people who buy $500 Dells to complain to Apple.
I really don't mean to be rude, but this thread is just ridiculous at this point. Sign me up as not willing to boycott Apple, or complain that their prices are too high.
As others have made similar comments... You don't go and buy a BMW when all you can afford is a Kia.
I think you are OVERestimating. You're assuming, or trying to convince, everyone to feel the same way as you. We don't, and won't. People who are buying Apple computers already know the price they're paying. Would we like to pay less? Of course! I'd like it for free but that's not realistic, now is it? We're not unhappy enough with the price that we feel we need to complain.
You'd be better off asking people who buy $500 Dells to complain to Apple.
I really don't mean to be rude, but this thread is just ridiculous at this point. Sign me up as not willing to boycott Apple, or complain that their prices are too high.
As others have made similar comments... You don't go and buy a BMW when all you can afford is a Kia.
No IPS panel, no deal.
I challenge you to search for a laptop like that with a proper display (color accurate IPS with at least full sRGB gamut), that is still cheaper than the rMBP, or the Lenovo and HP models mentioned.
Customization is a valid point for those who need it. But if the available options are well balanced, and at competitive prices, then it might not be a deal breaker.
The companies I've worked with don't really customize their laptops very specifically, they just select one of the offered configurations and go with that. But different companies have different very specific needs, of course.
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You can't even convince a small group of people on this forum to boycott. What makes you think you can lead the charge on social networks?
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Well, I can only speak for myself, but I clicked on the thread because I couldn't believe how out-of-touch-with-reality the post is...
When you were born, did you come with a get-it-free coupon for rMBP?
Truth is, you have excellent taste since you like and desire the rMBP.
Reality is this: you have a taste for champagne on a coca-cola budget.
Well, I can only speak for myself, but I clicked on the thread because I couldn't believe how out-of-touch-with-reality the post is...
When you were born, did you come with a get-it-free coupon for rMBP?
Truth is, you have excellent taste since you like and desire the rMBP.
Reality is this: you have a taste for champagne on a coca-cola budget.
I think you literally answered your own question. Apple has such high profit margins because they can. The competition against Apple isn't as strong - so by the exact same logic of why BMW can't have such high profit margins, the same would apply to Apple *if* there were plenty of other good competitors out there. But there isn't, hence Apple doesn't need to lower its prices.
Lol, in some countries people eat and drink respectively more hamburgers and coca-cola then caviar and champagne... And I don't think the majority of people who are keen to pay premium prices for apple products have sophisticated tastes...
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*Cough* check out the PowerPC threads. People here running machines 7-15 years old, some of those as daily use machines!
My PowerBook is going to be 9 years old this August and I'm still using it for everyday things. Though, I need to upgrade to an intel mac because I need to start using programs like Lightroom or Aperture.
I would like to see Apple lower the price of say the refurb 2011 MBP 15" antiglare.
However, I'm sure you will find a great many of those have done some research and concluded that they are paying a premium because there is nothing else on the market that fits the bill.
Please find another laptop from any manufacturer that's 0.7" thick, made from aluminum or equivalent durable material (carbon fiber?), has a quad-core CPU, and a dedicated GPU.
You will find such a thing very scarce.
Add the screen to the mix (ultra high resolution, IPS) and it'd turn out the rMBP is the only one of its kind.