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Read it again. It states "SERVICE" not "FEE." If they increase data/voice (service) they MUST notify you. The FUC is NOT a service, it's a random fee therefore they don't have to send you notification.

Understood and agreed. The contract continues:
IF WE INCREASE THE PRICE OF ANY OF THE SERVICES TO WHICH YOU SUBSCRIBE, BEYOND THE LIMITS SET FORTH IN YOUR RATE PLAN BROCHURE, OR IF WE MATERIALLY DECREASE THE GEOGRAPHICAL AREA IN WHICH YOUR AIRTIME RATE APPLIES (OTHER THAN A TEMPORARY DECREASE FOR REPAIRS OR MAINTENANCE), WE WILL DISCLOSE THE CHANGE AT LEAST ONE BILLING CYCLE IN ADVANCE (EITHER THROUGH A NOTICE WITH YOUR BILL, A TEXT MESSAGE TO YOUR DEVICE, OR OTHERWISE), AND YOU MAY TERMINATE THIS AGREEMENT WITHOUT PAYING AN EARLY TERMINATION FEE OR RETURNING OR PAYING FOR ANY PROMOTIONAL ITEMS, PROVIDED YOUR NOTICE OF TERMINATION IS DELIVERED TO US WITHIN THIRTY (30) DAYS AFTER THE FIRST BILL REFLECTING THE CHANGE. If you lose your eligibility for a particular rate plan, we may change your rate plan to one for which you qualify.

Therefore non-disclosure of the "fee" increase does not trigger one's ability to terminate the contract.
 
One's ability to walk away fee-free has nothing to do with being notified or not. It's based solely on them increasing the FUC.

But the only clause in the contract that allows you to terminate based upon non-disclosure is the one that I quoted, where non-disclosure of an increase in billing for "services" triggers one's ability to terminate.

Look, I'm searching for a justification here as I would like to terminate my contract if plausible. I just can't seem to find one, given the language of the contract.
 
Again, it is the INCREASE in the fee that allows you to get out penalty free. There is no way to get out fee free based on not being notified of anything. I never said that and it doesn't mention that anywhere in the T&C. They just state that they WILL notify you if they increase their service (voice/date) plans above what you agreed to in your original contract.

That's incorrect. The contract provides:
IF WE INCREASE THE PRICE OF ANY OF THE SERVICES TO WHICH YOU SUBSCRIBE, BEYOND THE LIMITS SET FORTH IN YOUR RATE PLAN BROCHURE, OR IF WE MATERIALLY DECREASE THE GEOGRAPHICAL AREA IN WHICH YOUR AIRTIME RATE APPLIES (OTHER THAN A TEMPORARY DECREASE FOR REPAIRS OR MAINTENANCE), WE WILL DISCLOSE THE CHANGE AT LEAST ONE BILLING CYCLE IN ADVANCE (EITHER THROUGH A NOTICE WITH YOUR BILL, A TEXT MESSAGE TO YOUR DEVICE, OR OTHERWISE), AND YOU MAY TERMINATE THIS AGREEMENT WITHOUT PAYING AN EARLY TERMINATION FEE OR RETURNING OR PAYING FOR ANY PROMOTIONAL ITEMS, PROVIDED YOUR NOTICE OF TERMINATION IS DELIVERED TO US WITHIN THIRTY (30) DAYS AFTER THE FIRST BILL REFLECTING THE CHANGE.

With "the change" referring to an increase in price of services for which you were not notified.

Therefore if services are increased and you are not notified, you can terminate the contract upon notice to AT&T within 30 days of the bill reflecting the increase.

Under the contract, an increase in fees does not trigger the same ability as they are specifically exempt from the above-referenced clause.
 
Just watch this. If you don't understand this still after watching, I can't help you and I don't think anyone else can either. You are making this much more difficult/complicated than it actually is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYUAnnCFscw

You are as bright as a dimming candle.... we already explained to you, the charge you so much ride on is EXCLUDED.

Changes to your service agreement are the ones related to good transaction, in other words, minutes, messages and data.

If that changes and AT&T doesn't tell you squat, bingo, you are free. But the charge you are asking us to exploit is EXCLUDED. Hence you can't use it. Stop spreading lies.
 
Actually this works.

It is not illicit/illegal.

Whether or not you want to believe it or fight it, is up to you.

If it doesn't work the first time, hang up and call again.

I would be wary to try this now, as tons of AT&T customers are probably trying this at the same time.

Oh and yes you can join back after doing this.
 
When I switched from T-Mobile to AT&T in 2007 for the original iPhone, I didn't know about this, but when the iPhone was announced I called 6 or 7 times over a 3 month period in the spring complaining about how bad my service was and made them try to improve it. Eventually they gave me a two month credit on my cell bill - 2 x $99. So I got a $198 credit and cancelled. The EFT was $175. They paid me $23 to cancel my service.
 
Just a note that getting out of contract over a small detail like this will generally amount to a very difficult battle, and the vast majority of people probably won't pull it off. You're better off trying to make an argument based on service problems in your area, but that'll be uphill too unless they're truly legitimate.

Also note that the ETF reduces as your contract works out, so if you're well through your contract it might not be that high anymore.
 
For those of you who have been successful with this, what was the end result? Were you allowed to continue month-to-month off-contract, or was your service terminated?

I wouldn't want to run the risk of an immediate contract termination and potential loss of my phone number.
 
To THE REST of their customers. Everyone says "oh it just comes out of big corporate pockets". But those big corporate pockets are filled by how much they charge their customers. They don't just print money.... it comes from somewhere...

That $400 discount you got on the phone and now aren't paying.... they just add that into the amount they charge everyone else who plays by the rules and adhere's to the document they put their name and signature on.

So THANK YOU so much for making my cost higher so you can break your contract.

Oh boohoo. OP is single handedly raping and pillaging the villagers and poor lil' AT&T is crushing under the weight. :rolleyes:

Give me a break.

ATT is making money hand over fist. Guess what? You don't even own your phone after two years. ATT still gets the right to tell you how and with whom you can use the handset even though it could work on t-mobile and worldwide. That's dirty.
 
For those of you who have been successful with this, what was the end result? Were you allowed to continue month-to-month off-contract, or was your service terminated?

I wouldn't want to run the risk of an immediate contract termination and potential loss of my phone number.

It would be an immediate termination.
 
All service providers suck @ some level, but @ least I can make phone calls with Verizon w/o it dropping or losing signal every 5 minutes. It's the lesser of two evils.

Lol, cause they have such great coverage? And they have a slow ass 3G network, and no sim cards, and no data and talk at the same time. Enjoy ur iPhone.
 
Oh boohoo. OP is single handedly raping and pillaging the villagers and poor lil' AT&T is crushing under the weight. :rolleyes:

Give me a break.

ATT is making money hand over fist. Guess what? You don't even own your phone after two years. ATT still gets the right to tell you how and with whom you can use the handset even though it could work on t-mobile and worldwide. That's dirty.

All of this is told to us up front. You don't like it? You don't have to buy it. Everyone is acting like they were forced to sign this contract. You weren't so DON'T then you don't have to worry about it.

Life does not "Require" you to have an iPhone. It is not "Food" which you require to survive. If you don't like the "Terms" than don't get one. That simple. Its not like you didn't know at time of purchase you would be stuck with AT&T.

And to the OP. Using a .05 increase to get out of a several hundred ETF is shady. The ETF is designed to prevent people from getting a discounted/subsidized phone and then breaking contract with a deeply discounted handset.

Just don't take the discount and you don't have to worry about any of it.

You wouldn't have to use a "loophole" to get out of of the .05 increase. You could just leave!
 
Oh boohoo. OP is single handedly raping and pillaging the villagers and poor lil' AT&T is crushing under the weight. :rolleyes:

Give me a break.

ATT is making money hand over fist. Guess what? You don't even own your phone after two years. ATT still gets the right to tell you how and with whom you can use the handset even though it could work on t-mobile and worldwide. That's dirty.

Just because they're a big corporation, it doesn't mean you get to screw them.

A contract is not one sided. You sign a contract with AT&T, and you fully expect them to hold up their end of the contract (not raise your rate plan cost when they feel like it, etc), so you have to hold up your end.
 
No it isn't
To be fair, there's some truth to what was said.

Trying to weasel your way out of a contract (one which provided you with a discounted phone; which was entered knowingly) based on a trivial/inconsequential difference in a fee is unethical/dishonest. I couldn't care less if people try to do it—good luck to ’em—but people should at least be honest with themselves about the choices they're making.
 
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