Yep, so it's rendered pretty useless lolYou’d probably also want to do this for the Shortcuts app itself, to prevent someone from disabling the automation.
Edit: And it turns out you can’t do that, see downthread.
Yep, so it's rendered pretty useless lolYou’d probably also want to do this for the Shortcuts app itself, to prevent someone from disabling the automation.
Edit: And it turns out you can’t do that, see downthread.
Use guided access. Triple click the side button and give your phone to whoever.Is not about thieves. Is about these situations when you pass your phone to someone who you trust, but not enough to look at your very private photo album for example.
Use guided access. Triple click the side button and give your phone to whoever.Giving your unlocked phone to someone is a No No. if your kids want to play video games, give them their own device for that purpose. I someone needs to make a call, dial the number for them and put the phone on speaker for them.
Use a proper passcode.Faceid can be disabled by a thief, who knows the pin to unlock the phone. Thats how thieves are getting around folks who are careless with their PIN in public.
It’s extremely easy to setup and use. No fiddling required.Don’t have time to do all that fiddling. I just wouldn’t give my phone to someone for them to use.
Just use a proper passcode. It’s not hard. It really is your own fault if it’s that easy to get into your phone. There’s only a certain amount that can be done for you. The rest is up to you to implement if you’re worried.So, by "carefree" you mean using the phone according to the way it's designed to work? These "carefree" victims unlocked their phones in a public place using their PIN because FaceID failed, not realizing someone was stalking them. You talk like they're leaving their phones unlocked and walking away from them.
Sure, maybe we all are a little more on guard now, but it's exhausting and unnecessary to have to act like James goddamn Bond when you're just trying to send a text or whatever -- especially when there should be better security safeguards built into the ****-ing phone in the first place.
Or just don’t expose your pin. People are gonna forget a separate pin to disable biometrics, if they don’t use it. You can’t work on the premise I am gonna give my car keys, house keys, and passcode to a thief and build security.That's the problem. The unlock pin for the screen should NOT be the same as the code to change biometrics.
I've got my Pixel setup like this so even if thieves have the phone code they cannot get into many apps.If only you could set this to be a different passcode then the one used to unlock your phone.
Thats fantastic. Any pointers to how to do this? Maybe my solution will be to use a Pixel until Apple fixes this.I've got my Pixel setup like this so even if thieves have the phone code they cannot get into many apps.
You have a solution right there.Or just don’t expose your pin. People are gonna forget a separate pin to disable biometrics, if they don’t use it. You can’t work on the premise I am gonna give my car keys, house keys, and passcode to a thief and build security.
People barely remember one pin, you think they will remember many, most will just use one pin for everything. I have a simple solution, don’t be careless with your pin. If some one doesn’t care to guard one pin, what’s the guarantee they won’t expose other pins? Good luck remembering and safe guarding 20 different pins. Lol. I won’t be surprised folks start storing in one app/vault with all pins. Thieves will just get in to the vault and take what they want.You have a solution right there.
Currently, Apple uses one key for the car, house, bank account, email, screen unlock, etc. We wouldn't use the same password for all our web sits. We wouldn't use the same key for all our IRL security needs. Yet Apple does precisely that on the iPhone. They should at least give users more choices to lock things down.
If they would allow different keys for those things, that would help a lot.
Bonus points if they can make it possible for the user to choose to make some of them ONLY work with biometrics or something like a FIDO physical key. That would basically solve this attack vector for those that want to close it down.
Automations are useful. You should learn about them.This has got to be the most convulted implementation possible
Nobody even remotely "normal" would ever even think to try this, or even bother once shown instructions.
Jesus
What happened to Apple?
Yes, exactly, this is very cumbersome and adds needless complexity to a very useful function. For example, locking banking and financial apps behind biometrics is extremely helpful for keeping prying eyes and fingers out of sensitive business activities.oh waw!!!! so easy and userfriendly.
Ffs.. without a how-to not a single user will ever figure this out.
It's not complicated at all. In fact, it takes less than a minute to set up and it does work. Nothing pathetic about it.This doesn't look like it "Just Works". Lol wow, how complicated. Pathetic for Apple.
Yeah I agree! Thats the point. Apple only allows a single pin for everything on the iphone, the same pin that is used for the lock screen also allows payments, emails, unlocking smart locks, getting into the key chain and unlocking everything else.People barely remember one pin, you think they will remember many, most will just use one pin for everything. I have a simple solution, don’t be careless with your pin. If some one doesn’t care to guard one pin, what’s the guarantee they won’t expose other pins? Good luck remembering and safe guarding 20 different pins. Lol. I won’t be surprised folks start storing in one app/vault with all pins. Thieves will just get in to the vault and take what they want.
I am all for Apple giving options for those who don’t bother to use biometrics or safe guard their pin. Don’t shove the design to others.
If you use a nice alphanumeric passcode and then faceID for everything then I think you’re pretty set up to be honest. the ability of people to look over your shoulder to steal your pin is greatly reduced when it’s not just numbers!Yeah I agree! Thats the point. Apple only allows a single pin for everything on the iphone, the same pin that is used for the lock screen also allows payments, emails, unlocking smart locks, getting into the key chain and unlocking everything else.
Sure would be nice if they didn't force users to put all the honey into one pot. People could still be dumb and use the same pin for everything. But at least users would have the option to be smarter.
I wish more apps would allow you to use a different code rather than the phones code if faceID failed though.
If you use a nice alphanumeric passcode and then faceID for everything then I think you’re pretty set up to be honest. the ability of people to look over your shoulder to steal your pin is greatly reduced when it’s not just numbers
What you can do is set a screen time passcode that's different to your device pin. Then in Screen Time > Content & Privacy restrictions toggle "passcode Chnages' and 'Account changes' to don't allow. That way if someone has your device pin they can't change your passcode/faceId/disable find my if they don't have your second screentime passcode.That's the problem. The unlock pin for the screen should NOT be the same as the code to change biometrics.
Except the Screen Time passcode can be changed with the device passcode by using the "Forgot..." option.What you can do is set a screen time passcode that's different to your device pin. Then in Screen Time > Content & Privacy restrictions toggle "passcode Chnages' and 'Account changes' to don't allow. That way if someone has your device pin they can't change your passcode/faceId/disable find my if they don't have your second screentime passcode.
ok thanks i didn't know that thought it was only the apple id+password that could!Except the Screen Time passcode can be changed with the device passcode by using the "Forgot..." option.
I double checked and yes, the passcode seems to work here too:ok thanks i didn't know that thought it was only the apple id+password that could!
This is crazy. Might as well not have an Apple ID that is separate from the phone passcode at all.Enter iPhone passcode to reset Apple ID password
The fact that you cannot lock access to this automation makes it useless-so easy to disable. Apple is losing its reputation for security bit by bit. Clearly just added as an afterthought
In the interests of enhanced privacy, some third-party iOS apps include an option to require passcode or Face ID authentication before they can be opened, even though the iPhone is already unlocked. This puts the app's contents behind an additional layer of security, but not all apps offer the same facility.
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Until recently, Apple did not offer a way to individually lock sensitive apps like Photos, and iPhone users had to resort to Screen Time's App Limits as a workaround. Fortunately however that's no longer the case, because you can now create an additional security barrier for any app on your iPhone using a shortcut action new to iOS 16.4.
Apple has added several new actions to the Shortcuts app, and the one that interests us here is Lock Screen. The Lock Screen action essentially allows you to set up a personal automation that automatically locks your iPhone when a specified app is opened.
Of course, this action should pose no access issues for you as the iPhone owner, but it does mean that anyone else trying to open the app first needs to pass facial authentication or enter your passcode even though your iPhone was unlocked when they tapped the app icon.
The following steps guide you through the process of setting up a personal automation that will instantly lock your iPhone when the app of your choosing is opened.
Your personal automation is now complete and should automatically spring into action the next time you open the chosen app. Note that the same Lock Screen action can also be found in macOS 13.3, but bear in mind that there may be other ways to access the contents of a Mac app without launching it.
- Launch the Shortcuts app on your iPhone.
- Tap the Automation tab at the bottom of the screen.
- Tap the + button in the top-right corner, then tap Create Personal Automation.
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Scroll down and tap App.- Make sure Is Opened is ticked on the next screen, then tap Choose.
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Select an app from the list, then tap Done.- Tap Next, then tap the blue Add Action button on the next screen.
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Start typing "Lock Screen" into the text field and select Lock Screen when it appears in the results below, then tap Next.- Toggle off the switch next to Ask Before Running.
Tap Don't Ask in the pop-up prompt, then tap Done.
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Article Link: How to Lock Specific iPhone Apps Behind Face ID or Your Passcode
Apple is losing ground on the security front. This is full of holes. I.e. Disable automation -> run app
In the interests of enhanced privacy, some third-party iOS apps include an option to require passcode or Face ID authentication before they can be opened, even though the iPhone is already unlocked. This puts the app's contents behind an additional layer of security, but not all apps offer the same facility.
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Until recently, Apple did not offer a way to individually lock sensitive apps like Photos, and iPhone users had to resort to Screen Time's App Limits as a workaround. Fortunately however that's no longer the case, because you can now create an additional security barrier for any app on your iPhone using a shortcut action new to iOS 16.4.
Apple has added several new actions to the Shortcuts app, and the one that interests us here is Lock Screen. The Lock Screen action essentially allows you to set up a personal automation that automatically locks your iPhone when a specified app is opened.
Of course, this action should pose no access issues for you as the iPhone owner, but it does mean that anyone else trying to open the app first needs to pass facial authentication or enter your passcode even though your iPhone was unlocked when they tapped the app icon.
The following steps guide you through the process of setting up a personal automation that will instantly lock your iPhone when the app of your choosing is opened.
Your personal automation is now complete and should automatically spring into action the next time you open the chosen app. Note that the same Lock Screen action can also be found in macOS 13.3, but bear in mind that there may be other ways to access the contents of a Mac app without launching it.
- Launch the Shortcuts app on your iPhone.
- Tap the Automation tab at the bottom of the screen.
- Tap the + button in the top-right corner, then tap Create Personal Automation.
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Scroll down and tap App.- Make sure Is Opened is ticked on the next screen, then tap Choose.
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Select an app from the list, then tap Done.- Tap Next, then tap the blue Add Action button on the next screen.
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Start typing "Lock Screen" into the text field and select Lock Screen when it appears in the results below, then tap Next.- Toggle off the switch next to Ask Before Running.
Tap Don't Ask in the pop-up prompt, then tap Done.
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Article Link: How to Lock Specific iPhone Apps Behind Face ID or Your Passcode
It isn’t. Your device passcode becomes the password for your Apple ID when you add the Apple ID to your device. It’s called a passkey.This is crazy. Might as well not have an Apple ID that is separate from the phone passcode at all.