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How to tell if you have MLC or TLC flash iPhone 6/6 Plus
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Big thread over on the Apple forums which touches on TLC issues.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6565699?start=120&tstart=0
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6565699?start=120&tstart=0
Pretty ridiculous this is even a concern at all.
Is this the attribute of "great products", or wallet lining at the expense of customer experience?
Is this the attribute of "great products", or wallet lining at the expense of customer experience?
We can all try to find positIves to TLC flash, but the fact it's cheaper than MLC tells us all we need to know about why Apple picked it. It happens to all great companies, the bean counters take over and quality drops.
I really hope Apple has learned something from this. For a company their size, with their capitol reserves, pulling a move more indicative of HP is completely unbecoming.
This should not be an issue for Apple on any level.
I'm not even trying to explain that to Sun, but do you realize TLC are the future of NAND technology ?
apple still seems to be using TLC in their iPhones, so I don't think that was the sole culprit of the issue fwiw
Actually yes, it had been already demonstrated here:
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/20584291/
But I know, and already said, with you it's just a waste of my time.
http://techreport.com/news/26381/sam...e-bit-tlc-nand
Toshiba, hynix and SanDisk are selling fast and reliable SSD using TLC NAND.
In 2015 more than 40% of the SSD market would be TLC, and it's going to be more in the next years.
Gregory Wong, President of Forward Insights, observes that “NAND flash memory is transitioning to TLC technology in an effort to improve the affordability and increase adoption of solid-state drives. Solutions such as Silicon Motion’s SM2256 controller enable systems manufacturers to leverage TLC technology in cost-effective SSD products without compromising performance, endurance or reliability,”
Another pertinent observation comes from Michael Yang, senior principal analyst at IHS iSUPPLi: “We expect TLC SSDs to account for more than 40% of all client SSD shipments in 2015. The combination of cost effective TLC NAND and new controllers like Silicon Motion’s SM2256 will help drive this level of adoption."
There you go. This shouldn't be a consideration for a premium Apple product. Nowhere does that tell me TLC is better than MLC. Just cheaper.
It doesn't matter what you amateurish definition of premium product means. Performance wise a smartphone isn't a demanding task for NANDs, so if TLC is used for server grade SSD, go figure for a phone....
Is that app that installs from a website safe to use, to check for TLC or MLC? This one referenced on page 2:
http://www.pgyer.com/IOKitBrowser
http://www.pgyer.com/IOKitBrowser
Well my 6+ has TLC flash and whether it's the reason my phone is the worst I've ever owned or not, the rumours about cost effective flash memory don't help. Why do some iPhone 6 and 6+ have MLC? Why does the Samsung Note 4 have MLC?
Why are Apple putting 'cost effective' components into their money no object devices? We're paying premium prices for a supposedly premium product and yet getting cheap flash memory & insufficient RAM. Sounds dodgy to me despite your positive spin.
It does work and it indicates which NAND type your iPhone has, just an alternative - works on iOS 8.2 as well
Well, it was beought up in response to a post asking how safe/good another app is, so it follows to wonder what might make this app different and thus safer/better than the other one.
If you think SSDs are less reliable than HDDs you don't know much about how either works. It's simply just not true. You can also believe that the sun orbits around the earth with all your heart, but it doesn't make that true either.
SSDs can fail and HDDs can fail, well within their expected lifespan. I have read about HDDs lasting 30 years and SDDs dying within 7 days. Would you take a budget SSD with a finite write capacity over a heavy duty HDD if speed were not a consideration?