My unlocked 6+ 64GB is TLC and was built Week 52. They clearly still use it.
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How to tell if you have MLC or TLC flash iPhone 6/6 Plus
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Are you freaking out?!?!?!??!
Are you freaking out?!?!?!??!
LOL.
Nah. Because it seems not to be as crash-prone as my other 6 plus was.
That said, I would've preferred MLC.
I wonder what recent builds are shipping with.. Probably a blend still but curious
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/phone-doctor-plus-check-27/id565111904?mt=8
phone doctor plus is free from today to 2/13.
NAB IT!
It's interesting my MLC Toshiba rMini 16GB does 65MB/s read and ~400 something MB/s write (it was lower 400, then 479 next time, with everything closed except that) and my TLC Toshiba 6+ 64 does 179MB/s and 200 something (lower 200 and then higher 200's next time) MB/s
essentially, from MLC to TLC, same brand, write speed almost tripled but read speed halfed or 2/3'rded, give or take (I suck at math given the variations in running the test)
both on 8.1.1 jailbroken
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/phone-doctor-plus-check-27/id565111904?mt=8
phone doctor plus is free from today to 2/13.
NAB IT!
It's interesting my MLC Toshiba rMini 16GB does 65MB/s read and ~400 something MB/s write (it was lower 400, then 479 next time, with everything closed except that) and my TLC Toshiba 6+ 64 does 179MB/s and 200 something (lower 200 and then higher 200's next time) MB/s
essentially, from MLC to TLC, same brand, write speed almost tripled but read speed halfed or 2/3'rded, give or take (I suck at math given the variations in running the test)
both on 8.1.1 jailbroken
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I've been through 2 SSD's already, one in my latest 15" rMBP died within a few months, machine rebooted and drive gone - not even recognised as being a device. Apple replaced it with a 512 instead of a 256. Happy days
this is further supporting my hypothesis that a lot of launch 64's are MLC and have been sort of phased out over time.
That said, got a buddy that just got a 64 6 that had Hynix MLC so clearly they're using a blend.
I think it discredits the rumor/article of Apple shifting to MLC from "problematic" TLC's all tighter.
But it seems after reading many pages of this, there's nothing conclusive about anything haha
That said, got a buddy that just got a 64 6 that had Hynix MLC so clearly they're using a blend.
I think it discredits the rumor/article of Apple shifting to MLC from "problematic" TLC's all tighter.
But it seems after reading many pages of this, there's nothing conclusive about anything haha
That's not wearing out the flash memory from use, that's a hardware or firmware failure, which is completely different. SSDs can fail suddenly. Wearing out, especially in a phone (which a lot of people replace every two years or sooner) is very unlikely.
Wife and I bought 128 GB iPhones 6+ a few weeks ago. I'm using 5.6GB (super heavy user here... /sarcasm) of 108GB free. I use the phone for hours every day. Apparently my iPhone 6+ 128GB is a Week 50 (December 2014) model.
Last week while using Ingress I had the app lock up and the screen turn all blue for a few seconds then bam phone shut off - seemed to take forever to restart. Wife saw what happened and said this happened on her 5s now and then so I just attributed it to the Ingress app. Her 6+ hasn't done this yet. This crash has not happened again on my 6+ and I've Ingress'ed every day since I've owned the phone.
Noticed one app crash but that's it (can't remember the app - just that it closed when it wasn't supposed to and when I started it back up, it didn't go back to the screen I left it at).
My last phone was a Note 3. I'm very happy with the 6+. I had a 4s and a 5, and an iPad 3. Macrumors is not very helpful for OCD people like us (myself) --- funny, when I bought my iPad 3 - I enjoyed it for weeks before coming here - then I noticed light bleed, a pink tint to the glass, and just had to returned it for a replacement. I mentioned Macrumors to the Apple Genius and he quickly replied saying: "Don't believe anything you read from that site, it'll make you hate what you have even if it's perfect." lol!
I have Apple Care+ so I'm not going to worry too much. I've been using my phone for hours and hours every day and I've had no additional problems. My coworker has a launch day 128 GB iPhone 6+ and he has had 0 issues and he's a super heavy user (60+gb of apps, music, games for hours, etc...). So I'm just going to enjoy my phone. Will report back if it has any problems.
Thanks for all the time people spend in these forums - very fun/informative to read.
Last week while using Ingress I had the app lock up and the screen turn all blue for a few seconds then bam phone shut off - seemed to take forever to restart. Wife saw what happened and said this happened on her 5s now and then so I just attributed it to the Ingress app. Her 6+ hasn't done this yet. This crash has not happened again on my 6+ and I've Ingress'ed every day since I've owned the phone.
Noticed one app crash but that's it (can't remember the app - just that it closed when it wasn't supposed to and when I started it back up, it didn't go back to the screen I left it at).
My last phone was a Note 3. I'm very happy with the 6+. I had a 4s and a 5, and an iPad 3. Macrumors is not very helpful for OCD people like us (myself) --- funny, when I bought my iPad 3 - I enjoyed it for weeks before coming here - then I noticed light bleed, a pink tint to the glass, and just had to returned it for a replacement. I mentioned Macrumors to the Apple Genius and he quickly replied saying: "Don't believe anything you read from that site, it'll make you hate what you have even if it's perfect." lol!
I have Apple Care+ so I'm not going to worry too much. I've been using my phone for hours and hours every day and I've had no additional problems. My coworker has a launch day 128 GB iPhone 6+ and he has had 0 issues and he's a super heavy user (60+gb of apps, music, games for hours, etc...). So I'm just going to enjoy my phone. Will report back if it has any problems.
Thanks for all the time people spend in these forums - very fun/informative to read.
But it's completely irrelevant to the point of this thread and the point that you were making.
How so? SSDs can 'fail to work' at any time. I've read numerous customer reviews of laptops where the SSD failed within a year and to me they seem less reliable than HDDs.
If something fails because it wore out, or fails because it's defective...it has still failed.
Can some people who just picked up new iPhones at the store tell us Mlc or tlc?
Still curious we don't have much 2015 build data
Still curious we don't have much 2015 build data
I picked up a new unlocked iphone 6 128GB few hours ago, if you tell me how to check i'll gladly do it
I picked up a new unlocked iphone 6 128GB few hours ago, if you tell me how to check i'll gladly do it
Are you jailbroken? If not phone doctor plus in app store is the way to find out and running a storage test.
I think this makes for a good somewhat detailed read:
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/41410...d-with-mlc-and-tlc-nand-tlc-slower/index.html
What's interesting is it refuting the chart claims that TLC is speed wise inferior:
"Unfortunately the released tests are limited to write benchmarking. TLC has inherent limitations with random write activity, but fares much better with read workloads. Mobile devices aren't subjected to as much heavy random write data as PC's, and as a general statement TLC fares well with sequential data. We mention this because these tests focused on random write data, which is the worst case scenario for mobile devices. Some read performance benchmarks would also be very helpful, and we are reaching out to Kbench for read performance results."
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Every single electronic components can "fail to work" at any time.
Your statement is meaningless.....
My iPhone 6+ red screened yesterday and failed to boot or turn on after charging to full. I went to the Apple Store - somehow they were able to turn it on and saw the same thing. 15 mins later I walked out with a new iPhone 6+ 128GB.
My new 6+ 128GB still has TLC. :/
Wife's 6+ 128GB has no problems. I had a few bluescreens and apps crashing on my old 6+ 128GB.
Coworker's 6+ 128GB (launch day) is still going strong with no bluescreens.
My new 6+ 128GB still has TLC. :/
Wife's 6+ 128GB has no problems. I had a few bluescreens and apps crashing on my old 6+ 128GB.
Coworker's 6+ 128GB (launch day) is still going strong with no bluescreens.
Wow really.. Your device died already, did you keep it full or something?
I'm glad I have MLC
I'm a very light user in terms of numbers of apps. With 800mb of pictures (I take 2-5 pics a day) - my phone was reporting 6.8GB used after barely 1 month of usage. The only thing I did that was possibly heavy usage was play Ingress (leaving screen on for long periods of time) for 2-3 hours a day (sometimes 6 on weekends).
:/ My wife plays Ingress with me on her 6+ so I doubt that was it -- and she's never had bluescreens that restarted her phone like I did on my old 6+. So far the new 6+ 128GB is bluescreen free.
I think Apple are aware of this issue and are replacing peoples phones no questions asked.
Yep, definitely. My thread is here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1851321/
They very quickly replaced the phone. What sucks is the nearest Apple store is 1+ hours away from my house, but at least I know if it happens again I'll have a new phone within 15 mins. Meanwhile my coworker with a Note 4 that just died has to wait a handful of days for Verizon to ship him a new Note 4.
Meanwhile, my wife has gigs of music on her 128GB and my coworker has 60+ GBs of movies and music on his 128GB. So lets hope this one lasts too.