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How to tell if you have MLC or TLC flash iPhone 6/6 Plus

sunking101 said:
SSDs can fail and HDDs can fail, well within their expected lifespan. I have read about HDDs lasting 30 years and SDDs dying within 7 days. Would you take a budget SSD with a finite write capacity over a heavy duty HDD if speed were not a consideration?
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Depends on the use. Also, I would never buy a super crappy SSD, this comparison doesn't make any sense. It's like saying, would you chose a burned up Ferrari or a brand new Corolla? I'd never buy either, so I can't really answer that.

The failure rate on any halfway decent SSDs is not any higher (in fact is lower) than any HDDs. So you heard of a guy whose unbranded Chinese SSD had a controller nuke itself in a week. So what. I can find a thousand (Literally) stories online of HDDs coming out of the box broken. Doesn't prove anything either.
 
Derived said:
Depends on the use. Also, I would never buy a super crappy SSD, this comparison doesn't make any sense. It's like saying, would you chose a burned up Ferrari or a brand new Corolla? I'd never buy either, so I can't really answer that.

The failure rate on any halfway decent SSDs is not any higher (in fact is lower) than any HDDs. So you heard of a guy whose unbranded Chinese SSD had a controller nuke itself in a week. So what. I can find a thousand (Literally) stories online of HDDs coming out of the box broken. Doesn't prove anything either.
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Most laptop manufacturers spec their machines with budget SSDs. I don't know what Apple do but SSD's are expensive.
 
sunking101 said:
Most laptop manufacturers spec their machines with budget SSDs. I don't know what Apple do but SSD's are expensive.
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They use SSDs that have acceptable durability. If there was some widespread problem with them, we'd have heard about it by now.

Apple uses very high quality PCI-E SSDs with high quality flash and usually top-spec controllers. That's about as durable as physical storage can get.
 
sunking101 said:
Well my 6+ has TLC flash and whether it's the reason my phone is the worst I've ever owned or not, the rumours about cost effective flash memory don't help. Why do some iPhone 6 and 6+ have MLC? Why does the Samsung Note 4 have MLC?
Why are Apple putting 'cost effective' components into their money no object devices? We're paying premium prices for a supposedly premium product and yet getting cheap flash memory & insufficient RAM. Sounds dodgy to me despite your positive spin.
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Indeed, your is defective. Nothing to do with TLC.
I'm sure you could find a good deal and take a note 4. Move on.
 
Max(IT) said:
Indeed, your is defective. Nothing to do with TLC.
I'm sure you could find a good deal and take a note 4. Move on.
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8.2 dramatically improved my 6+. I haven't experienced a screen freeze since installation. However, seeing as there are MLC variants of my phone floating around, I would still prefer that to the budget TLC mine has got. Just on principal.
 
sunking101 said:
8.2 dramatically improved my 6+. I haven't experienced a screen freeze since installation. However, seeing as there are MLC variants of my phone floating around, I would still prefer that to the budget TLC mine has got. Just on principal.
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Don't get me wrong: on principle I'd like my iPhone to have MLC NAND too, over TLC it actually has.
But since my NAND aren't defective, I don't care so much.
 
Any 128GB 6+ with MLC flash out there?

Have a 128GB 6+. I have only have some crashes with the email app, not many but I can remember I have had them.

All the reports from the 6+ 128GB owners appear to show that only TLC flash has been used on these devices so it seems silly to ask for a replace at the moment. Am I right on this? Or are there some 128GB devices with MLC?

I guess that I will maybe wait some more months to see if 128GB 6+ start to show up on these threads and then I will consider exchanging it for a new device at the store I bought it from.
 
As far as I know, no 128GB MLC devices actually exist... and I seriously doubt they will, now that Apple seems to have solved most issues with faulty TLC batches.
 
Hi i have a toshiba TLC but only i have a randons resprins only 2 or 3 and i have jb it will be some tweak or something else?
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Or bad unit?
 
TheBigKing said:
No colored screens only few ran does resprings
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It's pretty obvious if you have a bad TLC unit. My first 6+ would have apps that crash pretty regularly. I had a few blue screens that restarted the phone then eventually it just red screened permanently. My new 6+ I've had longer than my first - haven't had ANY of those symptoms. Neither has my wife's 6+, coworker's launch day 6+.

So yeah I'd be happy if I was you.
 
BigMcGuire said:
It's pretty obvious if you have a bad TLC unit. My first 6+ would have apps that crash pretty regularly. I had a few blue screens that restarted the phone then eventually it just red screened permanently. My new 6+ I've had longer than my first - haven't had ANY of those symptoms. Neither has my wife's 6+, coworker's launch day 6+.



So yeah I'd be happy if I was you.
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So no problems? never has blue screen or red only a few springboard cratches 1 or 2 a day
 
TheBigKing said:
So no problems? never has blue screen or red only a few springboard cratches 1 or 2 a day
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Yeah no problems. The app crashing I had on my first (bad) TLC phone happened to different apps - never consistent. So if Springboard is always crashing for you and it's the only app crashing, I'd blame that app. But my second iPhone (TLC) 128GB 6+ --- yeah, no problems.
 
BigMcGuire said:
Yeah no problems. The app crashing I had on my first (bad) TLC phone happened to different apps - never consistent. So if Springboard is always crashing for you and it's the only app crashing, I'd blame that app. But my second iPhone (TLC) 128GB 6+ --- yeah, no problems.
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Thanks for the good info buddy
 
Hi!

It's novembre 2016, and right now I'm unable to check whether my iPhone has a TLC or MLC NAND flash. The Pgyer web app is blocked on iOS 10, so I've got no idea of how to check my storage type.

Any ideas?
 
Which capacity do you have?

also, run Phone Doctor plus memory test, speeds will determine MLC or TLC

but if its a low end capacity, like 16 or 32, it's MLC.

I think 128 Is TLC and 64 is a mix,


by the way, this huge frenzy for tlc or mlc, and in the end tlc gets better performance and touch disease affects 6/6plus so TLC durability never mattered/doesnt matter anyways,
 
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