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How to Use Apple TV's iPhone-Based Color Balance Feature

vipergts2207 said:
Actually so far evidence is showing that is does do something positive for picture accuracy.
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No, actually what is being established is that ATV out of the box isn’t particularly accurate and this does little more than make it a bit better, it is not doing dick to your TV since it cannot and does not adjust anything on the display, the adjustments are made to the ATV signal to compensate, and so every other source, e.g. terrestrial, cable, Blu-ray or any other device (Xbox, fire stick, Roku, PlatStation etc.) will be exactly the same (and evidently perfectly fine since 99%+ have never been compelled to calibrate to this point) and unaffected by the “calibration.”

I would hazard a guess the calibration would need to be done for each program being watched.

Honestly, nothing surprises me any more, but it is amazing how Apple can spin this stuff and folks lap it up!
 
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ani4ani said:
No, actually what is being established is that ATV out of the box isn’t particularly accurate and this does little more than make it a bit better, it is not doing dick to your TV since it cannot and does not adjust anything on the display, the adjustments are made to the ATV signal to compensate, and so every other source, e.g. terrestrial, cable, Blu-ray or any other device (Xbox, fire stick, Roku, PlatStation etc.) will be exactly the same (and evidently perfectly fine since 99%+ have never been compelled to calibrate to this point) and unaffected by the “calibration.”

I would hazard a guess the calibration would need to be done for each program being watched.

Honestly, nothing surprises me any more, but it is amazing how Apple can spin this stuff and folks lap it up!
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I don’t even want to spend my time explaining why you are spectacularly wrong.
 
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ani4ani said:
No, actually what is being established is that ATV out of the box isn’t particularly accurate and this does little more than make it a bit better, it is not doing dick to your TV since it cannot and does not adjust anything on the display, the adjustments are made to the ATV signal to compensate, and so every other source, e.g. terrestrial, cable, Blu-ray or any other device (Xbox, fire stick, Roku, PlatStation etc.) will be exactly the same (and evidently perfectly fine since 99%+ have never been compelled to calibrate to this point) and unaffected by the “calibration.”

I would hazard a guess the calibration would need to be done for each program being watched.

Honestly, nothing surprises me any more, but it is amazing how Apple can spin this stuff and folks lap it up!
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Nobody claimed it was doing anything to the TV itself dude. Perhaps try reading what was actually said. As far as what or why the Apple TV is doing what it does with this new feature is besides the point. Even correcting inherent inaccuracies in the device, by definition, results in a more accurate picture. Trying to spin that any other way is asinine. And the fact that you think each program will need corrected is telling. All the apps do is pass source video data from a server to the ATV, which then processes that data into a signal for the TV. Apparently that processing out of the box has some green push that this new feature helps mitigate.
 
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mike... said:
6500K is approximately daylight, which is shifted towards blue. Blue is cooler. 6500K is a very cool colour temperature.
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It doesn’t matter. It is just a reference point. The actual picture will be warm or cold depending on what the creator wanted it to be - ASSUMING you use the same reference point(s). Which is the whole point.
 
ani4ani said:
No, actually what is being established is that ATV out of the box isn’t particularly accurate and this does little more than make it a bit better, it is not doing dick to your TV since it cannot and does not adjust anything on the display, the adjustments are made to the ATV signal to compensate, and so every other source, e.g. terrestrial, cable, Blu-ray or any other device (Xbox, fire stick, Roku, PlatStation etc.) will be exactly the same (and evidently perfectly fine since 99%+ have never been compelled to calibrate to this point) and unaffected by the “calibration.”

I would hazard a guess the calibration would need to be done for each program being watched.

Honestly, nothing surprises me any more, but it is amazing how Apple can spin this stuff and folks lap it up!
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It calibrates the Apple TV against the display, the atv adjusts for any crazy out there colour settings on a tv, thus giving consistent and calibrated results irrespective of the display. It’s applied to the atv colour output, not per app, so anything on atv will be output within the calibrated spectrum. We can assume grayscale and colours are calibrated by this.

yes, it is only valid for the atv not other devices and inputs. But having an atv generally implies that is your central smart box for watching content so it’s a huge net positive for majority of the users. Apple has essentially brought no cost display accuracy to the masses.
 
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Phew, I thought this would be a software exclusive to the new Apple TV 4K.
happy to see it come to my hd.
happy with my tv (some old 32 inch toshiba that was know en for great picture quality) but eager to just give it a try.
 
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Muzzakus said:
It calibrates the Apple TV against the display, the atv adjusts for any crazy out there colour settings on a tv, thus giving consistent and calibrated results irrespective of the display. It’s applied to the atv colour output, not per app, so anything on atv will be output within the calibrated spectrum. We can assume grayscale and colours are calibrated by this.

yes, it is only valid for the atv not other devices and inputs. But having an atv generally implies that is your central smart box for watching content so it’s a huge net positive for majority of the users. Apple has essentially brought no cost display accuracy to the masses.
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Well a Face ID iPhone and a Apple TV at least should sum up at a couple of hundred euro.
But if you are in the Apple system they added something nice for free to it.
 
Interestingly enough, this doesn't seem to apply if you are using Dolby Vision. I tried to do this calibration on my set up today, and it said calibration not required because you are using Dolby Vision. You would think this would have been mentioned.
 
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Ressayflex said:
Interestingly enough, this doesn't seem to apply if you are using Dolby Vision. I tried to do this calibration on my set up today, and it said calibration not required because you are using Dolby Vision. You would think this would have been mentioned.
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It was mentioned in the first post of this thread:


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Under "Calibration," select Color Balance. If the option says "Not Required," your smart TV doesn't need adjusting. It also is unavailable with Dolby Vision.
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Velli said:
I don’t even want to spend my time explaining why you are spectacularly wrong.
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Because I'm right
vipergts2207 said:
Nobody claimed it was doing anything to the TV itself dude. Perhaps try reading what was actually said. As far as what or why the Apple TV is doing what it does with this new feature is besides the point. Even correcting inherent inaccuracies in the device, by definition, results in a more accurate picture. Trying to spin that any other way is asinine. And the fact that you think each program will need corrected is telling. All the apps do is pass source video data from a server to the ATV, which then processes that data into a signal for the TV. Apparently that processing out of the box has some green push that this new feature helps mitigate.
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So as I said, fixing ATV, not your TV...and nothing at all for all other video sources that your TV is connected to?
 
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ani4ani said:
Because I'm right

So as I said, fixing ATV, not your TV...and nothing at all for all other video sources that your TV is connected to?
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Again, nobody said it “fixed” your TV. Just that this feature results in a more accurate picture when viewing with an ATV. Why do you insist on arguing a point that was never even made? It doesn’t make you look more knowledgeable on the topic, it just makes it look like you can’t follow a simple conversation.
 
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Watching show, Siri “Noticed you are stressed. I changed the mood setting on your TV to more calming colors. Did you notice the sound change to less intense base? Enjoy the show!”. One has to wonder how much assistance do we need.
 
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What a gimmick. My Samsung Q90 75” has a sensor which adjusts for light in a room. As been stated light in viewing areas rarely are the same throughout the day. I’d tend to go with a sensor that’s part of better tv’s than a combination of my iPhone and iOS (or tvOS).

You can get TVs pretty darn good by following simple instructions all over the web for your particular set. Most are of course over saturated and cartoonish so much so you’d be better off starting in Movie Mode and adjust off that.
 
mnsportsgeek said:
I’ll have to see this for myself but that color balanced image does not look all that realistic to me. Ya it looks pretty but colors don’t look that perfect in real life. Most people would look at a picture where the colors are way too warm and tell you that looks the best. I hope Apple is going for accuracy here and not personal preference of the masses.
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You’re looking at that corrected image on your iPhone. No, it won’t look correct.
 
Chevysales said:
What a gimmick. My Samsung Q90 75” has a sensor which adjusts for light in a room. As been stated light in viewing areas rarely are the same throughout the day. I’d tend to go with a sensor that’s part of better tv’s than a combination of my iPhone and iOS (or tvOS).

You can get TVs pretty darn good by following simple instructions all over the web for your particular set. Most are of course over saturated and cartoonish so much so you’d be better off starting in Movie Mode and adjust off that.
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This only applies to Apple TV settings.
 
Ressayflex said:
Interestingly enough, this doesn't seem to apply if you are using Dolby Vision. I tried to do this calibration on my set up today, and it said calibration not required because you are using Dolby Vision. You would think this would have been mentioned.
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It IS mentioned. You didn’t actually read the article.
 
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This sucks. I hate the colors on my ultra short throw Samsung projector and was dying to fix them.
 
How does it handle different modes like HDR/SDR? The TV doesn’t look best with the exact same settings regardless of content being shown so I am guessing the Apple TV would need different settings depending on content as well.
 
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