Completely off topic, but if you want...What bugs are you seeing, specifically?
Just to try one (feedback with multiple confirmations) on iPadOS, try force closing apps... you'll notice something strange (many don't close and remain hidden).
Completely off topic, but if you want...What bugs are you seeing, specifically?
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Comparing two web browsers using the same "liquid glass" effect: Opera Developer is at the front, while Safari is at the back. The curvature of the corners should be more subtle; I believe Opera handles that curve much better. It also handles the "liquid glass" effect much better.
The key point is that I do not need to see what is on the other side of my laptop screen. It is not an Augmented Reality device. The whole Liquid Glass debacle seems to come from some desire to make every interface the same for the sake of visual consistency regardless of utility. Not every tool is a variation of a hammer.
The thing is, Opera has just adapted to the new macOS look, and it will most likely adapt to the next macOS design, and do so even better.All of those look completely awful.
Like "day one of playing around with UI design" bad.
This is so embarrassing to watch Apple, of all companies, be going through this.
The thing is, Opera has just adapted to the new macOS look, and it will most likely adapt to the next macOS design, and do so even better.
MS Edge Look with Tahoe,
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Marketing probably won out over those who knew about the flaws in the macOS interface.This 👆
Wonderfully and concisely articulated.
For macOS in particular, Liquid Glass is a flawed concept from the get go.
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Comparing two web browsers using the same "liquid glass" effect: Opera Developer is at the front, while Safari is at the back. The curvature of the corners should be more subtle; I believe Opera handles that curve much better. It also handles the "liquid glass" effect much better.
And, Edge is much faster.It pains me to say that I prefer the MS Edge look.
I’ve gone to only using it in dark mode in macOS. It’s almost like light mode was a total afterthought, the contrast is almost non-existent.Remove all Transparency. Stop content areas scrolling into the window frame.
Loose the rounded corners, or at least reduce the radius drastically.
Set the toolbar/window top panel to be in a stronger colour; or possibly even a non-solid pattern like the old steel effect. This would allow more contrast for the highlights and shadows of the Liquid Glass controls.
Interestingly, Preview has a preference to set a colour for the background of its windows. Inevitably, this bleeds into the Toolbar, to good effect. (I think).
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My main beef with the interface (apart from transparency) is also true of Sequoia -- it's just all so white. Bring back some colour and contrast.
The Finder has had the ability to set background colors and background images since Mac OS X 10.0, but with Tahoe the backgrounds do not extend under the sidebar, and only under the toolbars when scrolling. The entire idea of Liquid Glass is that the sidebar and controls hover over content which seems like a huge miss. During the betas column view in the Finder did not slide under the sidebar (it just disappeared) but they at least fixed that.Interestingly, Preview has a preference to set a colour for the background of its windows. Inevitably, this bleeds into the Toolbar, to good effect. (I think).
I hear what you are saying, but has Apple ever had an interface that just “sits there quietly”?These words from Kalsta above address a fundamental problem with Apple's approach to designing and introducing Liquid Glass. They're worth reading and thinking about. I particularly like "While Apple may talk the talk about this new design bringing ‘more focus to content’, that’s marketing BS IMHO."
What is "more focus on content"? it might be relevant in many situations but as Kalka puts it: "A great UI is happy to sit there quietly and help the user do whatever it is the user wants to do."
In Human Factors and UI design the user is central!
Before "improving" Liquid Glass I would implore Apple to address the numerous bugs in Tahoe and iOS 26.
If they were truly interested in users' opinions, there are plenty of places to find them... starting with this forum.they can't fix what they don't know about.![]()
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Thanks. I'm really interested in the commenter who I replied to, to reply back with what bugs they've seen. They broadly mentioned "bugs" as a general hand-waving but nothing specific was provided.Completely off topic, but if you want...
Just to try one (feedback with multiple confirmations) on iPadOS, try force closing apps... you'll notice something strange (many don't close and remain hidden).
Sorry, but no: iPad Pro M2 here, but I find it curious that it only affects some users. In fact, my iPad has very few apps. I noticed a (slight) improvement with 26.3 beta 2... but it's far from being resolved.As for that particular bug, I've not seen that at all on my M2 iPad Air. Force closing apps always works for me. I'm not saying others don't have that bug, just that it hasn't affected me. It also doesn't affect my son's M1 Air. Could be mainly just older iPads?
I hear what you are saying, but has Apple ever had an interface that just “sits there quietly”?
Aqua certainly didn’t, the animation Rush and realistic textures of Lion certainly didn’t.
Sitting there quietly has *never* been Apple’s thing.
Aqua certainly didn’t …