Thanks for the link, after seing that comparison and some others, I just can say that Xoom is the winner so far!
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HP Announces WebOS-Based TouchPad Tablet, Pre 3 and Veer Smartphones
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Thanks for the link, after seing that comparison and some others, I just can say that Xoom is the winner so far!
I'd wait until they have all been released before making your mind up. It's not much use having the most powerful hardware if the usability of the device isn't up to scratch.
As an iPad owner, it seems like my money will be on a Xoom tablet, iPad 2 will be a kind of disappointing when talking about hardware, it will have only 512Mb RAM, 2 crappy cams and CPU boost, these features should have been present in iPad right from the start not in the second revision, come on! 256Mb RAM is rubbish, now the iPad 2 will fall behind the competition with only 512Mb RAM while others have at least 1Gb RAM, no USB, no SD card port, no file manager..., and don't come on saying that iOS doesn't need as much RAM, more RAM means outstanding apps and amazing games.
Hint: Apple reports "sales" the same way: the moment a device leaves China to go to a store. I saw a stack of iPads sitting quietly in a locked cabinet at a Target the other day, and they still count as "sold".
That's true, and can be said even without trying to put down other makers' figures.
True.
There have been similar devices for years (web tablets with Java apps), but they never got much attention. One thing about Apple is that they're able to get the mass public to notice things. (For example, can you name the first announced phone design with multitouch pinch-to-zoom? It's not Apple's.)
Below are just two of the many such device designs (Freescale, Crunchpad) that were known before the iPad was announced. However, I bet virtually no one here knew of them, because slates were not on their radar until Apple had one.
Apple is also smarter than others because they realize that it helps to have a support ecosystem in place. Competitors are starting to figure that out, though. D'oh!
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Actually, all the retail store owners that I've spoken to do their best to sell people non-apple gadets, because their margins are ridiculously low on Apple's stuff and they're not allowed to change the prices.
This guy seems to have done a fair job of comparing the two --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlhzOTmD8vU
Apple gouges stores when they sell Apple's products. The way those stores may the money is through other purchases like accessories with their iStuff. Those stores also offer their own extended warranty junk, which is a sneaky money maker. I used to work in one. We hated selling Apple crap, but on the other hand, the sheep came in masses, and the stuff sold itself. There's something to be said for great marketing for underpowered gear. The stuff simply sells.
Do you have a source for this or is this just your speculation? All the tech blogs seem to have no problem taking Apple's sales figures at face value.
All retailers are going to keep a stock of items in the back, otherwise they would be sold out when 3 people buy the 3 items out on the shelf. It does not imply that Apple's figures included those 10 iPad's in the back as "sold". They do sell them to Target for them to sell them selves, but that doesn't mean that they don't collect sell-out data from Target. Apple only has a few retailers that sell their products (Target, Best Buy, Walmart) so they could easily have an agreement that gives them that data.
And either way I would guess that a majority of Apple sales come from Apple.com or Apple retail stores which they have direct information on their inventory and sell-out.
But you're ignoring that Apple's channels are already full. Your argument only holds water the first quarter or so after release.
If you have 100 iPads in a locked cabinet at the beginning of the quarter and 100 iPads in a locked cabinet at the end of the quarter, then your "sell out" equals your "sell in."
Competition is good but copying the look and format of an Apple presentation just makes HP look like a cheap clone without competitive ideas.
Industry practice. (every industry) Why would you think Apple would do it differently? As mentioned, the main difference is when the iPad comes in, it goes out real fast. Meanwhile, Costco is now trying to get rid of its pallets of Galaxy Tabs, they were down to $400 last night.
It does look good, but what's the deal with this?
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(BBC article from 2 weeks ago)
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Ouch. Apparently Apotheker (CEO) isn't in direct communication with Rubinstein (Senior VP).
Sounds reassuring for the future of the platform, doesn't it.
How did it look like an apple presentation outside of like the default Keynote font?
Its also clear Palm was behind the presentation as it was similar to their CES presentation.
You're absolutely right. Stereo speakers in a mobile device are silly. That's why every notebook has them, even the ones from Apple. The ooor sounding mono speaker in the iPad was a real innovation. Soon, the rest of the world will give up on surround and even stereo sound and will copy Apple's example once again.
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While the iPad's speaker is quite pathetic (and hopefully will be addressed with iPad 2), I agree that stereo speakers in a tablet are silly. And while I think stereo speakers in a laptop are mostly silly too, at least the semi-separated sound is being directed at your ears and not at your belt buckle like it would be with a tablet.
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The difference between the sales figures is that there's not likely a glut of inventory for the ipad. It's just now being released in some areas and they've largely been selling them as fast as they can make them. Because of this, it's likely a smaller percentage of the units shipped are sitting on shelves waiting to be bought comparatively.
WebOS - hmmm has potential!
So i'm as "Apple" as they come (iPhone 3, 3GS, 4, Powerbook G4, Macbook Pro, Mac G4 tower, iPad 1 - and soon to be iPad 2 also) but I have to admit to actually being quite impressed by what HP brought to the table in the touchpad (well not so much the touchpad itself but the WebOS). I really like some of the features of WebOS as I had not seen it before.
I think it is going to be a slamdunk that when it (Touchpad) actually arrives though it's going to be priced too high and the battery life is going to fail miserably compared to the iPad (as every other competitor has found out so far).
That being said, I do think that is the first "worthy" competitor to the iPad. I really like how you can swipe apps off the page to stop them running. I like the idea of being able to see all the views in email. I like the cards on the home page. I like the unobtrusive notifications. I like the seamless integration of phone and Touchpad. I like the wireless charging stand/holder. I like the social networking integration across apps. So all in all I think the WebOS is actually pretty cool but that doesn't mean that I like it enough to leave iPad. iPad is still the best and iPad 2 will blow fireballs from it's eyes (with updated iOS later this year)!!! You heard it here
So i'm as "Apple" as they come (iPhone 3, 3GS, 4, Powerbook G4, Macbook Pro, Mac G4 tower, iPad 1 - and soon to be iPad 2 also) but I have to admit to actually being quite impressed by what HP brought to the table in the touchpad (well not so much the touchpad itself but the WebOS). I really like some of the features of WebOS as I had not seen it before.
I think it is going to be a slamdunk that when it (Touchpad) actually arrives though it's going to be priced too high and the battery life is going to fail miserably compared to the iPad (as every other competitor has found out so far).
That being said, I do think that is the first "worthy" competitor to the iPad. I really like how you can swipe apps off the page to stop them running. I like the idea of being able to see all the views in email. I like the cards on the home page. I like the unobtrusive notifications. I like the seamless integration of phone and Touchpad. I like the wireless charging stand/holder. I like the social networking integration across apps. So all in all I think the WebOS is actually pretty cool but that doesn't mean that I like it enough to leave iPad. iPad is still the best and iPad 2 will blow fireballs from it's eyes (with updated iOS later this year)!!! You heard it here
That being said, I do think that is the first "worthy" competitor to the iPad. I really like how you can swipe apps off the page to stop them running. I like the idea of being able to see all the views in email. I like the cards on the home page. I like the unobtrusive notifications. I like the seamless integration of phone and Touchpad. I like the wireless charging stand/holder. I like the social networking integration across apps. So all in all I think the WebOS is actually pretty cool but that doesn't mean that I like it enough to leave iPad. iPad is still the best and iPad 2 will blow fireballs from it's eyes (with updated iOS later this year)!!! You heard it here
Agreed. WebOS is much more elegant than iOS in many ways. I really wish Apple had bought Palm (the purchase price was a pittance) and incorporated many of these elements into iOS. It's a shame they let HP walk away with it for a song, especially since HP will probably do more harm than good (dropping the Palm name, for example).
I can't believe iOS notifications still suck this bad 3 years later.
They didn't demo cut, copy, and paste, because it has been in WebOS since 1.0. It's ooooold news.