HP Preparing to Take on Apple With TouchPad, Potential Cloud-Based Media Service

[Ibjr]

I think it IS it. (Just for the record, I hate it). But it harkens the Betamax/VHS battle of old. Beta WAS a superior product. Sony marketed VHS much more effectively, so it became more popular, the technology not withstanding.

I think Android is going to do the same thing. It was the only viable alternative to iOS when the Apple haters needed SOMETHING so it gained traction. Now it's entrenched & popular enough that it's going to be hard to stop, regardless of whether it's a "better" OS or not. The Apple haters & all their friends use Android and it's "great" because it's not iOS & that sentiment will continue to grow exponentially.

Alas, in the end, the non-techies that went with an android phone because it was cheap, quickly realize that both their hardware & software suck A$$ and they end up buying an iPhone, like nearly ALL of my friends have done.

1) Andorid is it on phones but has not shown itself to be it on tablets. If WebOS can become it on tablets and leverage synergy (the tech not the MBA speak) to grab hold of a part of the phone market, iOS and WebOS can end killing android on all but the lower end phones. If an Android tablet comes out that works, HP loses its opportunity.

2) Please reconsider the Betamax vs VHS debate. It wasn't that clear cut.

 

[TheYellowAudi]

How many free phones have Andriod on them, how many low quality phones have Andriod on them? Google is going for marketshare only. Apple makes more per unit and the developers make more per app on iOS....

Good point. You are absolutely correct.

 

[maxinc]

I believe HP wasn't very smart to compete with the iPad 2 if they are set on those prices. For that, you might as well get an iPad.

Exactly my thoughts. Apple's advantage is that they had the iOS infrastructure developed for the iPhone and could keep the prices low on the iPads. I can't see any reason for HP to succeed with a brand new product with marketed at the same price as a now stable, mature and very popular platform.

 

[Ibjr]

Let's summarize this thread:

- "They're copying Apple"
- "It doesn't looks as cool as Apple's"
- "They can't compete with Apple"
- <some random post about another (unrelated) Apple product>
- "Competition is good"

There. Move along...

If you want to summarize the thread you should actually read the thread. There is a noticeable contingent of users who maintain WebOS looks great. That wasn't one of your bullet points.

 

[42streetsdown]

this could a good product. i dunno. HP hasn't had my confidence in the past though. their printers certainly are a pain.

 

[Piggie]

Isn't HP the best one to do Cloud, I mean Apple are using HP machines are they not?

 

[toddybody]

Just a regular Holiday Inn a few times.

Learned how to be a surgeon too

My apologies, I didnt know MR had Surgeons gracing it's forums

Id broadcast who I work for, but that would only result in the forum getting shut down and all MR members being water-boarded

 

[TheYellowAudi]

2) Please reconsider the Betamax vs VHS debate. It wasn't that clear cut.

I did truncate the saga for the forum's sake to get the point across. You get the gist.

 

[Ibjr]

I did truncate the saga for the forum's sake to get the point across. You get the gist.

Your gist was wrong or you're analogizing with a square peg in a round hole.

 

[aristotle]

Oh the irony

iOS - 2007 (Android - 2008)
iOS - Full touchscreen device (2007) (Android 2008)
iOS - Multi-touch (2007) (Android 2008)
iOS - Swipe to unlock screen (2007) (Android 2008)
iOS - Pinch to zoom (2007) (Android 2008)
iOS - Inertia scrolling (2007) (Android 2008)
iOS - Notifications (2007) (Android 2008)
iOS - Apps with configurable interfaces (2007) (Android 2008)
iOS - First device with a usable mobile web browser (2007) (Android?)
iOS - On screen virtual keyboard (2007) (Android 2008)

Here is a comparison of what Android looked like before and after the iPhone launched.
http://random.andrewwarner.com/what...d-like-before-and-after-the-launch-of-iphone/

 

[TheYellowAudi]

That's right. Apple copied android with the notifications but how does that pertain to HP?

I dunno if one could say they Copied Android notifications.....they HIRED the guy that devised them! And he got the job done by greatly improving the system Apple previously had in place, in my opinion.

 

[sined13]

If you want to summarize the thread you should actually read the thread. There is a noticeable contingent of users who maintain WebOS looks great. That wasn't one of your bullet points.

I didn't read the thread. I should have said "predictions" instead of "summary".

Happy?

 

[daneoni]

iOS - 2007 (Android - 2008)
iOS - Full touchscreen device (2007) (Android 2008)
iOS - Multi-touch (2007) (Android 2008)
iOS - Swipe to unlock screen (2007) (Android 2008)
iOS - Pinch to zoom (2007) (Android 2008)
iOS - Inertia scrolling (2007) (Android 2008)
iOS - Notifications (2007) (Android 2008)
iOS - Apps with configurable interfaces (2007) (Android 2008)
iOS - First device with a usable mobile web browser (2007) (Android?)
iOS - On screen virtual keyboard (2007) (Android 2008)

Here is a comparison of what Android looked like before and after the iPhone launched.
http://random.andrewwarner.com/what...d-like-before-and-after-the-launch-of-iphone/

So? it doesn't change the fact that iOS 5 borrowed (copied) from Android, RIM, WinPho 7, 3rd party devs & JB community. Therefore that quote is hypocritical.

 

[ThisIsNotMe]

The more I think about it, the less I understand the advantages of a locker based media service vs what Apple is offering.

A locker based media streaming service requires several things which are no guaranteed.

1) A wireless network
2) Acceptable network speeds
3) Unlimited data

I feel like Apple's offering of pushing all of your music to every device is a better solution. It cuts the need for a wireless network out of the equation and really wouldn't undermine your data plan.

 

[maflynn]

Isn't HP the best one to do Cloud, I mean Apple are using HP machines are they not?

HP has an advantage over others (maybe not over apple) to produce a large scaleable infrastructure for cloud services. Plus I really do like the look at how the touchpad looks. If priced correctly AND they can get developers on board they may have a winner.

 

[ThisIsNotMe]

So? it doesn't change the fact that iOS 5 borrowed (copied) from Android, RIM, WinPho 7, 3rd party devs & JB community.

Like what?
Wireless syncing?

Huh, I have had that with MobileMe for YEARS.
It is comical to argue that just because Apple is expanding what you can sync and what it syncs with means that they are ripping off another company.

Notifications?
Oh, they bought that from the JB community.

 

[daneoni]

Like what?
Wireless syncing?

Huh, I have had that with MobileMe for YEARS.
It is comical to argue that just because Apple is expanding what you can sync and what it syncs with means that they are ripping off another company.

Notifications?
Oh, they bought that from the JB community.

Even though Wi-Fi syncing is just one of the many...you've been able to sync with iTunes wirelessly for years?

 

[TheYellowAudi]

Your gist was wrong or you're analogizing with a square peg in a round hole.

I'm gonna have to disagree with ya on that one, but let's not muddy up this thread with that debate.

 

[ranReloaded]

Black, Shiny Plastic Rim? Really?

 

[vincenz]

Oh the irony

And you're on Apple forums because...?

 

[SockRolid]

HP's music deal #1

Remember the "Apple iPod+HP"? The HP-branded iPod? No? Well I don't blame you.

Read all about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_iPod

 

[daneoni]

And you're on Apple forums because...?

Oh i dunno...i own Apple products and i have an interest in Apple (technology in general) related discussions?

 

[KingCrimson]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

WebOS = FAIL.

 

[skellener]

HP, cutting edge....

 

[ictiosapiens]

So? it doesn't change the fact that iOS 5 borrowed (copied) from Android, RIM, WinPho 7, 3rd party devs & JB community. Therefore that quote is hypocritical.

Yeah, apparently its cool when Apple does it, but not when others do.

On a related note, with every new iOS release Devs must be crapping their pants hoping Apple hasn't decided to implement another of their ideas into iOS, making Devs apps useless and killing their cash cows. Cases in question: Instapaper, Dropbox, Evernote, Wireless Sync, etc. Those are like 4 out of the 10 new features announced last monday...

I for one, am liking Web OS, specially their implementation of multitasking, which is very similar to the Playbook's(also awesome). If developers embraced those platforms, we would have real alternatives.

It's a shame snowballs are so hard to stop...