HP Preparing to Take on Apple With TouchPad, Potential Cloud-Based Media Service

[mac9000]

This is most definitely the "iPad Killer" everyone's been waiting for!

Until next week's iPad Killer comes and goes.

Yeah, I've seen so many (insert iOS device here) killers on covers of tech magazines. They all go away, and they're never worth competitors. Nobody understands that the success of iOS is due to careful planning, a strong background (iTunes and App Store), and good software rather than a lot of RAM and a fast CPU. Wouldn't the faster CPU just waste battery life?

 

[MattInOz]

As a current WebOS user (Pre+) I really think HP needs to stop trying to copy Apple's success and go off on their own tangent. imho Playbook/Android keeps is playing the same game MSFT played with Zune and meeting exactly the same fate (BB at least), the game being of course "catch-up". They keep matching features, but its too late (ex. Xoom matching iPad 1, just as iPad 2 debuts). To win its not enough to simply 'keep up' but rather they need to copy Apple's own strategy by ambushing them with new, innovative, well thought out feature implementations at aggressive price-points.

I think HP are going to play a different game. They would seem to be in the best position to push pads to business buyers. They can convince Businesses to beef up efforts to convert mobile employees to using HTML5 web apps that the company host themselves (on HP servers of cause) and draw a line in the sand with WebOS that says any other tab must render Web Content this well or better in order to be considered for use in those businesses.

I could see them getting growth in areas Apple might not have been able to target.

 

[Hueyfreeman]

Flash = 95% ads, 4% non-Youtube videos on sketchy sites, 1% unplayable games on a mobile device
all laggy
I wouldn't take Flash even if Apple allowed it.

Have you used the galaxy S 2 no lag at all using flash.

 

[chrono1081]

I don't get it. In one sentence people claim "Competition is good!", in the next sentence they claim "*insert company here* is a copycat!"

Just pick what you like and use it.

 

[Piggie]

Is Apple with it's iOS = VHS and HP with their OS = Betamax

Everyone knew in reality Betamax was the better format without question. It performed better, it allowed more tricks, better stills, quicker tape functions etc etc etc.

However VHS was the format that got all the support and hence gathered enough momentum to be the most popular dominant format, despite anyone who knew anything knowing Betamax was the better format/

 

[PlipPlop]

Looks great but I still think Honeycomb is the best tablet OS.
ios still lacking in third place only just ahead of RIM.

 

[Ubuntu]

Yeah, I've seen so many (insert iOS device here) killers on covers of tech magazines. They all go away, and they're never worth competitors. Nobody understands that the success of iOS is due to careful planning, a strong background (iTunes and App Store), and good software rather than a lot of RAM and a fast CPU. Wouldn't the faster CPU just waste battery life?

I really want to know what the CEOs of the companies creating these iWhateve killers are actually thinking. A recent Motorola advert springs to mind where the phone is going through a security scan at an airport and it looks like a laptop on the screen (as if its just as powerful as a laptop) and it claims to be the most powerful phone out there - but who actually cares if the software's crap, or if its not even iOS/Android based (not sure if it was even Android... I hope so), don't they realise its not all about the specs on a piece of paper?

 

[res08hao]

HP's problem, like Microsoft, IBM, Dell, Nokia, is that they are suits-conference table committee types.

Apple, Google, Amazon, Facebook-not suits.

 

[NebulaClash]

You just made my point. Apple's fundamental objective is the same as every other company.

Precsisely my point, but not what you were saying earlier. You were singling Apple out for scorn.

The iPhone 4 is Apple's current technology. That's drastically different from the current technology of the rest of the world.

This is an Apple site, which is why everything said here is with Apple's universe in mind. Most people do not follow technology wars. They just go into the Apple store and get the most current tech.

No one is saying Apple forced anyone to do anything. You're arguing that point with yourself.

You should read what you wrote again.

My reading and comprehension skills are obviously far superior to yours. What's absent is your ability to debate a topic without becoming defensive and resorting to personal attacks.

Ya gotta admit, this is very funny considering what you are saying about me.

 

[supercooled]

I always questioned the blind devotion of Mac users when it came to competition. Why is it called anti-trust when Microsoft puts IE into their operating system when Apple has done everything in their power to make their operating system non compliant with thirdparty hardware? This is a sure fire way to be certain only your products get bought. Do they have special dispensation because they are a hardware and a software company? The revolution of the iPod is long in the tooth and the iPad is pretty underwhelming.

I like using a Mac better than a Winbox but there are so many better devices out there than Apple's offerings but incompatibility becomes a hurdle too high to jump.

 

[iMaci7]

I dont think it will make a dent in the iPad sales. If Apple were still selling the iPad 1 it might, but, by the time this thing comes out we will be talking about the iPad 3. This is what happens when you follow in the wake of others, the competiton is trailing behind. Id like to try this new device out for sure, and i hope its good, but i have low expectations. Apple spent a very long time developing the iPad, and it shows. HP will need to really put blood sweat and tears into it, dont jam it into the market or slap it together and advertise it as better because it has flash enabled.

 

[TheYellowAudi]

I dont think it will make a dent in the iPad sales. If Apple were still selling the iPad 1 it might, but, by the time this thing comes out we will be talking about the iPad 3. This is what happens when you follow in the wake of others, the competiton is trailing behind. Id like to try this new device out for sure, and i hope its good, but i have low expectations. Apple spent a very long time developing the iPad, and it shows. HP will need to really put blood sweat and tears into it, dont jam it into the market or slap it together and advertise it as better because it has flash enabled.

'Zactly! Well said.

 

[TheYellowAudi]

Apple could have, and maybe should have, waited to release a white iPhone with the next iteration. Or, they could have lowered the price, considering its old technology.

Instead, they locked more people into two year contracts when the next iPhone, which will undoubted come in white at launch, is right around the corner.

Your blatant generalization that other companies would have "shoveled it out the door" is simply ignorant.

If you think screwing your customers is the act of shipping products lacking in something, you've just defined Apple. How many times has Apple implemented new, albeit great, features that were available far sooner on other devices?

Wow, you have an interesting perspective. Further, you obviously dislike Apple, yet you spend time on an Apple forum. Hmmm.

Point 1: Maybe. It wasn't old technology though; it was current & perfectly relevant technology. The white iPhone was released during the iPhone 4's sales cycle.

2. Apple doesn't lock anyone into contracts. AT&T does. Apple just builds the device.

3. Mr Grimm's comment is based on THE FACT that in the past, other companies have made it a habit to copy a product, throw it together and "shovel it out the door" to market. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it untrue.

4. Wow- you outdid yourself on this one by completely contradicting yourself. Apple's bringing of new technology to the market ( I'm certain you're talking about Thunderbolt, here) is called 'driving the industry'. Take, oh, I dunno, THE MOUSE for example. I'm sure you've seen a machine with one of those, right? There was a short time when only an Apple product had one. You're going to argue with me on this because that's just the kind of person you are, but also take HTML5 for another example. 18 months ago, barely anyone had heard of it & implementation of it on the web was very sparse. Then Apple's silly new 'toy', the iPad comes to market 'that doesn't even support flash' & here we are today with 75% of all websites in the world supporting HTML5 so when the servers are called by an iOS device, that website can still be utilized.

Call it whatever you like, but THAT is driving the industry & the marketplace. I'm sorry if you don't like it, but it's still fact. Period.