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tubeexperience

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Has anyone seen the new HP Spectre 13.3 ?

It's thinner than the MacBook, but has Intel Core i5/i7 processor and three USB-Type C ports.

The keyboard also has more travel than does the one on the MacBook.

The body is made of aluminum and carbon fiber.

The design-feat on that is impressive.

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sunapple

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That gold (bronze) is exactly the opposite of what Apple would do, its just too much 'look at me, I'm premium'.

We'll see what next-gen MacBook Pros will bring. Undoubtedly one of the thinnest, fast processors, good design and an actually great screen (1080p, seriously?).

Retina MacBook 12" does seem underpowered now, but I have yet to see the durability of all that heat in such a small package...
 

keysofanxiety

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The HP also has a dimmer screen, crappy colour contrast compared to the rMB, runs very hot on the base, weighs more than a 13" MacBook Air (let alone a 12" rMB), comes packed with HP bloatware, and its SSD read/write speeds doesn't touch any portable Mac.

Plus this is HP. They will always cut corners somewhere. There will be elements of the build quality and design that just won't be well thought out.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not the biggest fan of the Retina MacBook. But crumbs, HP's abysmal customer support alone would make me think very, very carefully about picking one of their machines over Apple.
 

tubeexperience

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The HP also has a dimmer screen, crappy colour contrast compared to the rMB, runs very hot on the base, weighs more than a 13" MacBook Air (let alone a 12" rMB), comes packed with HP bloatware, and its SSD read/write speeds doesn't touch any portable Mac.

Plus this is HP. They will always cut corners somewhere. There will be elements of the build quality and design that just won't be well thought out.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not the biggest fan of the Retina MacBook. But crumbs, HP's abysmal customer support alone would make me think very, very carefully about picking one of their machines over Apple.
How are you able to determine this?

For example, how do you know what the SSD read/write speeds are?
 
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David58117

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It has 2 fans...

The nice thing about the 12", is that it doesn't have or need fans..
 

drewjonn

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No offense though, the back part looks decent but I don't think so for the sides. Those sharp edge and glossy gold color definitely reflect Chinese crappy design IMO.

Have seen tons of Chinese gadgets that look glamorous in color and their designs appear to be exaggerating (like those edges) Apple keeps it simple and classy, can't even compare for me. Sorry, once again, just IMHO.
 
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PTLove

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It has 2 fans...

The nice thing about the 12", is that it doesn't have or need fans..

Thats how they fit the 15W CPU's in. I personally would rather have two small fans and a more powerful CPU, but thats not what Apple was going for in the Macbook. They want fanless for the Macbook.

If they make a 14rMB, I would LOVE for them to put a 15Watt CPU in there, even with a small fan or two. But I dont know what Apple wants to do.
 

deeddawg

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That extra 1" shows what else can be crammed in a small foot print and why the rMB has minimalist features
Likely even more. 12" diagonal screen with fairly little bezel vs. 13.3" diagonal screen with a lot of bezel makes for a TON more room inside.

Comparing the HP to the rMB is kind of like comparing the MBA11 to various 13-14" class laptops. Kind of nonsensical.
 

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The Retina MacBook is an innovative next step in laptops, not much different from the MacBook Air in 2008 (albeit with less radical features, we're pretty spoiled in 2016 if you re-watch the keynote from 2008). Fanless, iPad-like chipsets, dimensions and technology.

HP took the easy road by just making a conventional laptop a few millimeters slimmer with some tradeoffs like the display, doesn't make them the design leaders they so desperately want to be.
 

Eggtastic

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im surprised hp didn't try to buy their way into advertising in the new bond movie by having one of these as bond's or Q's gadget.
 

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It's not innovative. It's just a small very well engineered underpowered notebook, as it should be for the price.

It's very well engineered because there's some innovation going on in that thing. The screen, trackpad, keyboard, battery, logic board and the one-port philosophy are next level (just look at all the conservative people hating it) and they are an indication of Apples future laptop lineup. It's pretty innovative IMO.
 

PTLove

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It's very well engineered because there's some innovation going on in that thing. The screen, trackpad, keyboard, battery, logic board and the one-port philosophy are next level (just look at all the conservative people hating it) and they are an indication of Apples future laptop lineup. It's pretty innovative IMO.
I disagree. Innovation is new or novel use of technology. Simply adding a bunch of good pieces into a product is not innovative, its just good design.

But its really just semantics, so not a huge deal regardless.
 
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applesith

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It's so ugly and the fact HP says they were inspired by women's handbags and jewelry for the design is laughable. What were they looking at Nine West and Tory Burch? ickkkkk
 
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