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Sad to see. HP was a fine company at one time....

I will have to call shenanigans on that statement. I've had HP notebooks since way before the Centrino days (don't even remember what those processors were called back then), and they've never been good to me.
 
I hate to say it but HP ditching the hardware portion of WebOS seems like a bad idea to me.

Is it me or does every company so far seem to think licensing out their software/hardware instead of building the ecosystem like Apple, Nikon, Canon, etc do is a good idea?

The reason is simple: first-mover advantage. Apple got it and will only lose that advantage by its own mistakes (which nowadays are not very common, to be honest).

But you know who is the GREAT winner out of HP's decision? MS.

Believe me, in between Android's legal struggles and Apple's dominance, they will constitute the second most common post-PC platform with the not-so-bad-yet-much-worse-than-iOS Windows 8 - just wait and see.
 
Dont see why they gave up on it so soon they could have at least waited until after The holidays.....I'll definitely be getting a touchpad if they continue droping the price on them.
 
Glad I didn't buy a webOS tablet. To bad HP gave up. Don't think I could trust HP on anything since they gave up so fast. Android sucks so looks like apple will rule the tablet market. RIP WebOS.
 
You know, comparing HP to IBM is wrong. HP is acting more like Yahoo. They buy up various companies. They then stifle with restructuring. And finally they either kill it or they half kill it only to say they're really trying to increase it's value (e.g. delicious).

I may be wrong, but do you see HP doing stuff like this?

There has got to be more to this story, otherwise HP leadership is incompetent and the board should be calling for heads.
 
There has got to be more to this story, otherwise HP leadership is incompetent and the board should be calling for heads.

I second that and echo an earlier post; this is a serious WTF moment.

HP had a weapon to fight with and chose instead to point it to its collective head. It defies explanation. :confused:
 
I hate to say it but HP ditching the hardware portion of WebOS seems like a bad idea to me.

Is it me or does every company so far seem to think licensing out their software/hardware instead of building the ecosystem like Apple, Nikon, Canon, etc do is a good idea?

WebOS was a solid runner for the smartphone industry, now it seems that Palm and HP have pretty much run it into the ground. IDK, maybe they should have just taken it all the way to the desktop/laptop . . . . like they said they would.
WebOS stalled for too long and missed its window of opportunity (maybe Palm should have sold themselves sooner?). iOS is obviously established. Android is much more established than it was 12-18mo ago, and MS is a still a big enough player that they can always get their foot in the door (at least for a little big longer). I don't think there's any room for WebOS even though I think it's a great mobile OS. Palm, and later HP, just couldn't get new products to market fast enough.


Lethal
 
Sad news since webOS is actually my favorite mobile OS of them all. The card system was very intuitive with the touch gestures. Closing and switching to the next apps were fun to do unlike Apple's implementation which involves more steps like tapping the home button twice. WebOS was swipe to the left, right, or up. The notification system is also stellar on webOS even with iOS5 on the horizon. Very unobtrusive on webOS. I even love how the music controls shows in the lockscreen or in the very bottom of the homescreen.

I always said Palm pulled off a "Sega" at the end. Dreamcast was a great console that died too soon because of lack of sales, lack of third-party exclusives, more powerful hardware from its competitors, and Sega hemorrhaging money. People wanted Sony PlayStation 2 instead. WebOS was a great OS that died too soon because of lack of sales, lack of third-party apps, more powerful hardware from its competitors, and Palm was hemorrhaging money before HP bought them out. More people wanted Apple or Android instead.

The brains behind webOS was a former Apple employee
who also created the iPod - the device that helped bring Apple back to the top.

Oh well, I will always keep my Palm Pixi Plus as a memento of a great OS. I much prefer its form factor than the Pre model because of the thinness, QWERTY, weight balance at typing, and a more durable candybar form factor. And the homebrew community will still be there if you go on PreCentral. ;-) I can always watch the Manny Pacquiao webOS commercials and smile like he did. And if there is a fire sale with webOS products, I may just start picking them up. I really want that Touchpad for under $200. Dead OS, but it doesn't mean I can't do other stuff like web browsing even if I can't get new apps or updates anymore. WebOS might just be the best bang for your buck like when those Sega Dreamcasts were selling for $50 back in 2001 to clear out inventory.

RIP to webOS (2009-2011)

Google buys Motorola. HP ditches webOS. What a week in tech news!
 
Shades of Newton...

CUPERTINO, California--Feb. 27, 1998--Apple Computer, Inc. today announced it will discontinue further development of the Newton operating system and Newton OS-based products, including the MessagePad 2100 and eMate 300.

"This decision is consistent with our strategy to focus all of our software development resources on extending the Macintosh operating system," said Steve Jobs, Apple's interim CEO. "To realize our ambitious plans we must focus all of our efforts in one direction."

I just had to write a small blog post about this.

RTP.
 
The reason is simple: first-mover advantage. Apple got it and will only lose that advantage by its own mistakes (which nowadays are not very common, to be honest).

But you know who is the GREAT winner out of HP's decision? MS.

Believe me, in between Android's legal struggles and Apple's dominance, they will constitute the second most common post-PC platform with the not-so-bad-yet-much-worse-than-iOS Windows 8 - just wait and see.

I agree about MS taking charge against an Android/Apple dominated market. The true sad part of this all is that Palm had the greatest advantage with the Treo, but killed it with the Foleo and a stale OS.

WebOS stalled for too long and missed its window of opportunity (maybe Palm should have sold themselves sooner?). iOS is obviously established. Android is much more established than it was 12-18mo ago, and MS is a still a big enough player that they can always get their foot in the door (at least for a little big longer). I don't think there's any room for WebOS even though I think it's a great mobile OS. Palm, and later HP, just couldn't get new products to market fast enough.


Lethal

I see WebOS just being gobbled up by some soon-to-be-released HP software package.
 
WebOS IS DEAD. AND SO IS ANDROID.

That's an interesting posit, considering:

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WebOS stalled for too long and missed its window of opportunity (maybe Palm should have sold themselves sooner?). iOS is obviously established. Android is much more established than it was 12-18mo ago, and MS is a still a big enough player that they can always get their foot in the door (at least for a little big longer). I don't think there's any room for WebOS even though I think it's a great mobile OS. Palm, and later HP, just couldn't get new products to market fast enough.


Lethal

Those are problems if you try to create an iPad clone and release it half-baked. It is like they heard Job's quote about skating to where the puck was and decided they should skate to where the puck was half an hour ago. They could have been gutsy really tried to use webOS but instead they release a buggy iPad knockoff and make weird quotes that imply using webOS in their printers. They had a chance to become a new and major platform but they wasted that opportunity by playing the same old game they have been.
 
Bummer about the Palms OS. Never saw it, but I heard it was nice.

But as for their hardware, good riddance. Every HP I've ever worked on was a cheap, creaky disposable stinkpile. Is there really a need for so many Dell clones in this world?

Waiting for someone to offer a concise PC product line done as well as Apple does its line. Wasn't going to be HP anyway.
 
Good news for Dell I guess, HP was the really the only other seller that's well known for being a computer brand by consumers in the U.S. All the others (Apple, Toshiba, Samsung, Acer etc.) are known for other things, or are not really known at all by most consumers.
 
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The best thing HP makes is their Laser Printers, they make really great Laser printers. I have a Personal LaserJet, and it's one of the smartest investments I ever made. That little printer spits 'em out, and very quickly too. Served me well for the duration I've been using it, had it about 7 years now and it still works like a Pro.

You have got it exactly backwards. We live in a digital world. The tablets exists to eliminate the need for printers and paper. Information does not need to be converted into a bunch of dead trees.
 
Maybe HP can spin off their PC and mobile businesses, and then merge with Agilent...

Humpty Dumpty can't be put back together again. Agilent spun off its semiconductor business as Avago.

I long for the days of the old HP. The one that had its tentacles in every area of technology and was so diversified it could afford to let one business area not do so well for a while.

Sigh. What a mess their success with printers created.

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One less in the race. I would prefer WebOS to be #2 in tablet, not Android. That dream is lost now.
 
This isn't the first time Palm spun off software and hardware. I swear before webOS came out Palm's major innovation was testing how often a company could restructure and change the logo before imploding. I hope this behavior isn't contagious or a curse.

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BREAKING!


HP: ‘We are not walking away from webOS;’ exclusive details from inside


An insider has given us details from an all-hands meeting HP just held with employees in the webOS Global Business Unit in light of today’s announcement that HP will no longer make webOS devices. In the meeting, webOS GBU VP Stephen DeWitt made it clear that HP intends to continue to work on webOS and likely intends to license it. DeWitt was adamant, saying several times “We are not walking away from webOS.” He detailed a plan to try to determine what the platform’s future will look like within the next two weeks, although he admitted that “Clearly, we don’t have all the answers today.”

In response to a direct question about licensing to HTC or Samsung, HP VP Todd Bradley pointed out that to date webOS is designed to work on a single set of silicon — Qualcomm — and that many potential licensees would likely want to see webOS support other chipsets. He did not elaborate further on potential partners.

DeWitt said that there would be staff reductions, but told the team that the company needs people “that are serious about winning” and again reiterated HP’s commitment to developing webOS as a platform. Both DeWitt and Bradley were clear that the current business model of webOS wasn’t working primarily due to lackluster hardware, arguing that HP needed to stop “trying to force non-competitive products into the market.”

In short, it looks like HP is committed to finding a partner or partners to license webOS. It’s not clear how the company will shuffle the division around given that it currently sits within the Personal Systems Group, which is slated to be be spun off.
 
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