HP's webOS Reportedly Runs Significantly Faster on iPad 2 Than on TouchPad

[MorphingDragon]

I would take what he says with a grain of salt if he "used" to work in enterprise but doesn't any longer. There might be a reason for that change.?

How about because being an engineer sucks big ones, especially when you refuse to jump on the Microsoft bandwagon?

I have worked as a software developer writing enterprise level software for over a decade and yet people still seem to listen people like Knight over people who actually work at Fortune 500 companies like me. Funny, isn't it?

Someone is up himself.

 

[KnightWRX]

Wait, you used to work in enterprise. You should know better than to assume a company will continue to fully support a product unitl they announce a discontinuation.

I still do work in enterprise and yes, I know HP might announce webOS' demise at anytime now. My point was why get rid of webOS now (the guy I was replying to originally said he was getting rid of it ASAP) instead of enjoying it while it's still supported, especially considering it's getting lip service. I'd rather take a wait and see approach and even if they do EOL it eventually, it will still work fine for a time. By the time it has outlived it's usefulness, the 99$/149$ tablet will have had plenty of use for its price anyhow.

Remember, this is what spawned this whole sub-thread :

Just ordered a TouchPad from Barnes & Noble.

There's no way I'm leaving WebOS on that thing.

Why not ? webOS is pretty nice.

I would take what he says with a grain of salt if he "used" to work in enterprise but doesn't any longer. There might be a reason for that change.

Then no need to take what I say with a grain of salt, I still work in enterprise.

You always seem to like to bash me. Maybe you should just put me on ignore if you don't like me.

I have worked as a software developer writing enterprise level software for over a decade and yet people still seem to listen people like Knight over people who actually work at Fortune 500 companies like me. Funny, isn't it?

That's because software developers know crap about supporting and maintaining enterprise level infrastructure.

See I can throw the baseless accusations too. Seriously, just drop your hate towards me.

 

[MorphingDragon]

I still do work in enterprise and yes, I know HP might announce webOS' demise at anytime now. My point was why get rid of webOS now (the guy I was replying to originally said he was getting rid of it ASAP) instead of enjoying it while it's still supported, especially considering it's getting lip service. I'd rather take a wait and see approach and even if they do EOL it eventually, it will still work fine for a time. By the time it has outlived it's usefulness, the 99$/149$ tablet will have had plenty of use for its price anyhow.

Some people may want to get rid of WebOS now so they can get used to the compromise of running Android on them? That would be my reasoning.

 

[JAT]

Yes, and so let's just assume there's no more support coming.

Such negative Nancys. Until HP announces there's no support, they mentionned they will still be supporting the software side. Thus there's no reason yet to move to community builds of Android and let's just enjoy webOS, my initial point in this whole sub-thread.

There's no "problem" guy.

Yeah, there is a problem. A major PC/CE player just announced they are dropping one of their most well-known divisions. That demonstrates that HP thinks they have a serious problem. Then they came out with "clarifications" that said no more, but confused the issue more. Then they dumped their tablets for $99/149, which must be below cost. That's quite a weekend, you don't agree?

It's great that you are standing behind your new tablet so strongly (and think HP is, also), but you don't actually use it or even know what to do with it, so...not sure about the confidence we should have in your points, either.

I think ignoring WebOS is probably the most prudent thing to do this week.

 

[diamond.g]

Yeah, there is a problem. A major PC/CE player just announced they are dropping one of their most well-known divisions. That demonstrates that HP thinks they have a serious problem. Then they came out with "clarifications" that said no more, but confused the issue more. Then they dumped their tablets for $99/149, which must be below cost. That's quite a weekend, you don't agree?

It's great that you are standing behind your new tablet so strongly (and think HP is, also), but you don't actually use it or even know what to do with it, so...not sure about the confidence we should have in your points, either.

I think ignoring WebOS is probably the most prudent thing to do this week.

Yeah, HP wants to follow in IBM's footsteps, but seems to have forgotten to get someone to buy all the consumer stuff before dropping it.

In respects to ignoring webOS it seems like HP did a good enough job of that on their own...

 

[KnightWRX]

Yeah, there is a problem. A major PC/CE player just announced they are dropping one of their most well-known divisions. That demonstrates that HP thinks they have a serious problem. Then they came out with "clarifications" that said no more, but confused the issue more. Then they dumped their tablets for $99/149, which must be below cost. That's quite a weekend, you don't agree?

It's great that you are standing behind your new tablet so strongly (and think HP is, also), but you don't actually use it or even know what to do with it, so...not sure about the confidence we should have in your points, either.

I think ignoring WebOS is probably the most prudent thing to do this week.

Why ignore it ? For the price it cost me, 149$, it works perfectly and does everything it needs to do. There's no problem, except for those who failed to snatch up a tablet at that price with that level of quality of OS on it.

The issue never was confused. It has always been the same : PSG is getting spun off, webOS devices are getting abandonned, webOS itself isn't. The media is having a hard time grasping it, but I understood it straight off the announcement like many others.

And even if they discontinue everything in 2 weeks or 2 days, the 150$ tablet I bought still works fine, still has all its apps, still browses the web, still displays pictures and webOS will work better than the Android Gingerbread
port that might come one day for it (TouchDroid project) and I'm not waiting on Ice cream sandwich.

The problem is all in your head. If you don't want a TouchPad, that's fine, but don't tell me there's a problem when I keep telling you it's not a problem.

 

[JAT]

The issue never was confused. It has always been the same : PSG is getting spun off, webOS devices are getting abandonned, webOS itself isn't. The media is having a hard time grasping it, but I understood it straight off the announcement like many others.

Come on, man. Even in a press release, black and white text, DeWitt sounds confused himself. (and possibly scared) And he's now in charge of this debacle. I guess you know more than him.

Let me put it another way: We are talking about many things in this thread, not just your kitchen counter. So, HP hasn't presented a problem for your mostly ignored (there's some irony) TouchPad sitting on the counter, but they sure have for themselves!

 

[KnightWRX]

Come on, man. Even in a press release, black and white text, DeWitt sounds confused himself. (and possibly scared) And he's now in charge of this debacle. I guess you know more than him.

Or I guess I understand what they are saying and you're just not quite catching the message.

They want to be a software OEM for webOS and they have been saying this since the earning's call, like Google is for Android and like Microsoft is for WP7. That much is clear. Will they succeed ? Who knows. Will they even persevere in this direction more than a few weeks/days ? Who knows.

And Stephen DeWitt seems pretty focused and clear to me on that :

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/19/the-engadget-interview-hps-stephen-dewitt-discusses-the-state/

What we decided not to do is build a device-end of the equation. What we have decided to do is invest in the webOS as a platform so that we can deliver the type of innovation in that platform to fulfill our vision of connected devices.

Doesn't seem like a confused man with a confusing message to me.

Let me put it another way: We are talking about many things in this thread, not just your kitchen counter. So, HP hasn't presented a problem for your mostly ignored (there's some irony) TouchPad sitting on the counter, but they sure have for themselves!

So what ? Again, the sub-thread you're participating was not about "bigger picture" things, it was about dumping webOS "straightaway" to install... some Android port that doesn't even yet exist. I only asked the guy what were his motives behind such an irrational move seeing how good webOS is.

You're reading far too much into this, and again, you're taking a negative spin on it. I'm taking a positive attitude and we'll sit tight and wait and see what happens. And hey, if it does happen to be EOL'd, then the tablet will still work fine for me and others who paid it 100/150.

 

[AppleScruff1]

Check out AnandTech. He is saying that WebOS was the problem-it need to be more refined to run properly.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4658/its-not-qualcomms-fault-dispelling-touchpad-myths