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What a ridiculous statement. You do realize you're talking about people's jobs and lives. :rolleyes:

Exactly what went through my head what I read that.

I don't begrudge people having a platform-of-choice, but when you're talking in terms of destroying other platforms and companies, it gets a little childish. And besides, at least WebOS was actually trying to compete on its own merits and with a fair number of original ideas, instead of copying everything wholesale from other sources like some platforms I could name. To me, that makes WebOS's demise all the more unfortunate.
 
Why WebOS will always be steps behind iPad. It's both unfinished software and bad hardware:
http://www.marco.org/2011/08/19/rose-colored-glasses

Excerpt:

Even if hardware could someday make webOS consistently responsive, it would likely be working much harder to do it, since so much of webOS is written in high-level “web technologies”. In addition to the performance complaints, most of the reviews agreed that the TouchPad had significantly lower battery life than the iPad 2. That makes sense: the CPU needs to work harder, wasting more power, to manage webOS’ complex interface and high-level architecture.

If that’s the case, it will always be the case. webOS can’t compete strongly if its devices are always significantly slower, have worse battery life, or need bigger batteries than competing devices in the same hardware generation.
 
The TouchPad and phones never had hardware acceleration for the user interfaces. Thats why they're 'glitchy' and not as slick as an Apple device.

The TouchPad's battery life is an honest 8 hours or better. I own one and I own an iPad as well. The TouchPad of course connects you constantly to your various social networks, accounts and emails, so that will drain battery power. The 3.0.2 update fixed almost all of the lag and issues. I'd like to see a professional review of the TouchPad after it's been installed, nearly all of my concerns were resolved with that. It simply lacks applications now. Fortunately the browser does open 99% of the pages I need...
 
I was gutted by this news yesterday just like Noah Kravitz. Anybody who has followed all OSes and used them extensively has known the brilliance of webOS, my favorite OS over iOS and Android. One of the many reasons it was held back was weak hardware. The worse thing that happened to Palm was being bought by Hewlett-Packard. A company who wasn't exactly winning any sales war with their iPAQ/WinMo phones. HP made it worse. HP deserves a face PALM or PALM slap or both.

Jon Rubenstein is a genius and Apple wouldn't be where they are today without him creating the iPod. So what's up with some of this fanboy talk when companies copy other companies' ideas for years which Apple is guilty of since the Xerox days. Palm hired Paul Mercer, an ex-employee of Apple. Apple then poached former Palm employee, Rich Dellinger , who was the mastermind of the webOS' excellent notification system and is now head of improving iOS' notification system. Google now has Matias Duarte who was the UI mastermind of webOS. They are all in neighboring cities, so taking talent from another company wouldn't be rare in Silicon Valley.

Palm should have been bought by a more popular hardware manufacturer like Nokia or even HTC who lack experience with making great software. It is sad to see Palm go out like that. They deserved better for being one of the pioneers for the PDA and smartphone market. Apple blatantly copied the Palm Treo's threaded text messages. But what a way to go, eh? Like Heath Ledger-style in The Dark Knight. Left with one last legendary performance. Only difference is Heath got awards and recognition from it. Palm will never get that except from diehard cell phone enthusiasts. I hope QNX will be end up as webOS' spiritual successor in BlackBerry phones.

Palm handled webOS like Sega handled the Dreamcast. Too many fumbles. Overtaken by competitors with better timing, stronger hardware, and stronger third-party software support.

WebOS was the Dreamcast of mobile OSes and Palm's beautiful swan song. Both are perhaps the most underrated mobile manufacturer and mobile OS of all-time.

R.I.P. Palm (1992-2010)
 
Okay, now his do we install WebOS on our iPads

Okay, now his do we install WebOS on our iPads
 
Blow outs have begun up here in Canada. $99 for a 16G TouchPad.

Same here in the US. The 16 GB model is actually tempting me for wifi, photo viewing and watching movies while traveling or on vacation. At that price point it's ok if it's not as polished as an iPad. :)

KnightWRX, I see that price right on HP's website. I think every official reseller is offering them at the current price drop.
 
The Kin was rejuvenated and is still being sold.

Good grief. To whom?

If anybody didn't see the Kin's insanely expensive ad campaign about the girl going cross country to connect with all of her friends she met on social sites, it makes the Bill Gates/Jerry Seinfeld failed ad campaign look like marketing genius.

As for the fire sale prices on the Touchpad, very tempting. Even without future support from HP, I'd rather have one of them then a Galaxy Tab with support.
 
Actually it does run better because the drivers are written for the specific hardware and are designed to work together.

Is it easy to update drivers? Funny thing, only here would people argue that Windows works best on a Mac. Every other credible source and personal experience says otherwise. Of course only the elite frequent this site.
 
Is it easy to update drivers? Funny thing, only here would people argue that Windows works best on a Mac. Every other credible source and personal experience says otherwise. Of course only the elite frequent this site.

Actually, you'd think that. But I clearly remember reading "Best Windows machine is a Mac" from several PC sites. Yeah, it surprised me too.

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/95175/apple-mac-pro-is-crowned-the-fastest-pc-in-the-uk

http://www.pcworld.com/article/135062/apple_macbook_pro.html
For 3 months, PC World said that macbook pro was the fastest Windows Vista laptop ever.
 
If HP sells or spins off its PC business,
what exactly would they have left to sell?
Just printers & ink? :confused:
 
If HP sells or spins off its PC business,
what exactly would they have left to sell?
Just printers & ink? :confused:

The Enterprise sector ? Storage, networking, low/mid/high end servers, software and all the services, support contracts and consulting that goes with it.

That's where all their big profits are. HP is much more than a simple Dell competitor, they are mostly on IBM's level in the enterprise.

Actually, you'd think that. But I clearly remember reading "Best Windows machine is a Mac" from several PC sites. Yeah, it surprised me too.

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/95175/apple-mac-pro-is-crowned-the-fastest-pc-in-the-uk

http://www.pcworld.com/article/135062/apple_macbook_pro.html
For 3 months, PC World said that macbook pro was the fastest Windows Vista laptop ever.

Fastest is not best though. You said best, you provided evidence to fastest. The thing is, there are many quirks with running Windows on a Mac because the bootcamp provided drivers are not up to par, especially for the trackpads.
 
What a ridiculous statement. You do realize you're talking about people's jobs and lives. :rolleyes:

exactly!

As much of a 'Fanboy' I am, i still want competition. What blows me away is just how much the iPad is KILLING competition. I never thought it would dominate so strongly and cause competitors to absolutely scramble in attempts to make something similar.

Apple is reported to have an absolute fist grab on resources (ie. panels) so competitors are finding it hard to get the right hardware; then you see the ecosystem of the app store and it's users / developers. Some don't like it, but it's so strong. The engineering behind the ipad is tight as well - competitors brag about their 1 GB RAM, but the ipad simply doesn't need it b/c the software is written to maximize the 512 (from what i remember reading).

There are so many pluses right now, I honestly don't know if anyone can break Apple's reign. I hope someone comes close to at least push them to continuously be better.

I feel for HP. The report was out last week that combining tablets and computers, Apple was on top. Then you see that HP is supposedly bowing out of that business. Wow! The iPad ripple effect is felt, but unfortunately, it means people's jobs in this case.

As for RIM, I'm CDN so I feel for that company b/c my fellow CDNs are employed and the economy isn't super strong these days so layoffs hurt no doubt. Then again, they should sue their bosses for putting out the PlayBook without a proper email system. I mean, RIM is KNOWN for email and instant communication and their FIRST tablet didn't have that capability from the start?!?! I feel for HP, but in RIM's case, that's just plain stupid. Beyond Dumb. Idiotic really. "Hey, here's what we hope to be our flagship tablet, but you can't check email just yet....email isn't a core function for our customers."

Say WHAAT?T?T?

http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/04/...aybook-says-email-really-isnt-a-core-element/

Back to my point: you are right. As much of a 'win' this is for Apple, it's a loss felt in reality for some ppl through their jobs.

It might actually impact my wife as her office has a product service & support deal through HP for their laptops / desktops. She mentioned something about that already. As a small business of 6 employees, that's a real kick in the nuts if they have to switch. They don't have time to fart around implementing new hardware and most of their software is PC based so too bad for maybe implementing macs (yes, even though they could use parallels).

The times, they are a-changin'.
 
Yep, saw that a few minutes after posting, didn't take the time to edit my post, went straight out. Had to get the 32 GB model for 149$.

So lucky! I somehow managed to miss out on all news of the fire sale until just a couple of hours ago. The best I can do now is hope HP notifies me if and when they get one in stock.

It figures. The one day I decide to spend outside, all playing in the woods, riding my bike, and getting my tan on, is the one day that all these retail outlets decide to dump the Touchpad for a 5th of the price. And of course they sell out within a couple of hours. Just my luck.

I'm never going outside again. :mad:
 
I just bought one myself (16GB). Anxious for it to get here and see how slow it actually is after the update they sent out. I figure if nothing else it can be a nice e-reader.
 
I think HP will do something with Apple but I think they were just testing the WebOS on the iPad2. I don't think WebOS will be released to iPad.

you missed the point. the question was how do i "hack" my ipad... sheesh.

But to the op, why bother? At least your iPad has something the TouchPad doesn't.... apps@!
 
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