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HTML5 Continuing to Gain Ground With Yahoo! Mail for iPad, Vimeo Embedding

supmango said:
No, but backwards compatibility (flash fallback) will probably still be around for years to come. So just use old browsers and you will be fine. Of course, then you have to worry about security. But you have to cut your losses somewhere.
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Ah, I read this after I posted my reply to someone else. Thanks.
 
inlovewithi said:
I'm new too macs, didn't know much about them until I bought a Macbook in 2007, but do you really think Apple killed the floppy disk? I bought my 1st computer in the year 2000 and I would have been pissed if it didn't had a floppy drive. It would have been beyond inconvinient. The thing that killed the floppy drive was CDr and more so USB flash disks. It's what killed it for me. I mean, most people 90% + knew almost nothing of macs, so how would it kill it. It's like saying that the USB drive was killed in America because the country Ugander stopped using it.
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Just like with html5, Apple didn't "kill" the floppy. But they definitely lit the fuse.
 
The Yahoo part is great for me.
The gf wasnt too happy when she was trying to read her YahooMail.
The scroll bar wasnt working so she gave up on using the iPad for herself.
Hmm wait a minute, maybe I shouldnt tell her it works yet ;)
She hogs that baby all the time :(
LOL!
 
Daveoc64 said:
1) Correct.

2) What do people think HTML5 gives them in a Webmail client?

Why would you need flash for that?

This article is pretty broken IMO.
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local caching for offline access, improvements to searching and organization, enhanced attachment handling, and a dual pane view similar to that employed by the native iPad email application
 
inlovewithi said:
I'm new too macs, didn't know much about them until I bought a Macbook in 2007, but do you really think Apple killed the floppy disk? I bought my 1st computer in the year 2000 and I would have been pissed if it didn't had a floppy drive. It would have been beyond inconvinient. The thing that killed the floppy drive was CDr and more so USB flash disks. It's what killed it for me. I mean, most people 90% + knew almost nothing of macs, so how would it kill it. It's like saying that the USB drive was killed in America because the country Ugander stopped using it.
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True, but you could say that Apple hastened the end of the floppy by not including it in their computers. The other computer manufacturers did not want to be the first to leave out a floppy drive. After Apple took the heat for leaving the floppy drive out, the other computer manufacturers followed suit.
 
tibi08 said:
local caching for offline access
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That's the only one that needs HTML5 (and it is a good use of HTML5).

Nothing else that you list requires HTML5.

MobileMe isn't HTML5 and it has a lot of rich features.

People don't realise:

- What HTML5 is
- What a website using HTML5 actually means to them
- What HTML5 can do
- What HTML5 can't do
- What Flash can do that HTML5 can't
 
Plutonius said:
True, but you could say that Apple hastened the end of the floppy by not including it in their computers. The other computer manufacturers did not want to be the first to leave out a floppy drive. After Apple took the heat for leaving the floppy drive out, the other computer manufacturers followed suit.
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I don't know what reason's Apple had for taking out the Floppy drive, but that doesn't make sense. They took out the floppy drive out I think in 1998. What benefits did that bring? Was is slowing down the computer? Why would any other company want to take out the floppy drive, much less be afraid to do so?

I would understand if perhaps on a laptop to save space, but most computers were desktop. It's like taking out the DVD/Blu ray drives out of regular desktop computers and staying with the space where the drive would have been. If that space would have been empty when I got my 1st computer it would have been a waste.
 
access from macbook

Hi. How can I access yahoo HTML5 for iPad from my macbook to play around a little bit?
 
I use Yahoo mail, which I have set up as one of the accounts on my iPad's email app. This works great. I am not sure why I would need to access it through Safari.
 
bf2008 said:
Hi. How can I access yahoo HTML5 for iPad from my macbook to play around a little bit?
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I don't believe you can. From what I know, it seems that the site looks to see what browser you are using and displays content based upon that. It's possible that Yahoo may roll out their new HTML5 interface to desktop browsers in the future.
 
tibi08 said:
Is there any way to disable all your comments on Macrumours Forum? Click to Ghostface...?
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Irritated a little? Does weather in GB suck today or something? You'd do a great service to his forum if you tried to stick to the thread subject.
 
inlovewithi said:
I don't know what reason's Apple had for taking out the Floppy drive, but that doesn't make sense. They took out the floppy drive out I think in 1998. What benefits did that bring? Was is slowing down the computer? Why would any other company want to take out the floppy drive, much less be afraid to do so?

I would understand if perhaps on a laptop to save space, but most computers were desktop. It's like taking out the DVD/Blu ray drives out of regular desktop computers and staying with the space where the drive would have been. If that space would have been empty when I got my 1st computer it would have been a waste.
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Hi,

I believe the reason was that floppies only held about 1.4 mb of information. In 1998 that was enough to hold documents, but not enough storage for one MP3. At the same time the Zip drive was making inroads with 100 mb of storage, but it was known for being effective at losing all your data if you dropped the disk. CD-R drives were still too expensive at that time but Apple knew they would be able to put them in the iMac within the year as costs went down. So, for documents small enough to fit on a floppy Apple figured the user could use the internet to transfer files, and for larger files there was the option to use an external Zip drive using USB 1.1.

I think Apple pulled the trigger too soon with the Floppy, but it all came out in the wash.

s.
 
I see a lot of people here making the faulty assumption that Flash is only useful for video. That simply is not the case.
 
3NV7 said:
I see a lot of people here making the faulty assumption that Flash is only useful for video. That simply is not the case.
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How would they know? Many people here have not been able to experience Flash because they never used it on PC.
 
3NV7 said:
I see a lot of people here making the faulty assumption that Flash is only useful for video. That simply is not the case.
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what else does it do? I'm serious.

I have click to flash installed and in the last 2 years or so I don't remember that I activated flash for anything else but videos. Maybe there was a form that can easily be done without flash.

But I do not remember a single site that did something with flash that was useful and couldn't be done with HTML.
 
Can't wait for html 5 to become the standard. I've been putting off validating some of my sites for 5 till it is final.
 
inlovewithi said:
HTML 5 for the win.

As for flash, I just got my new Sony Vaio E series yesterday and last I check a regular youtube video only takes 5% CPU power. An HD video I think was like 12% or something. This flash debate is so silly to me, especially as time passes and cooler, faster computers keep coming out. The CPU only heats up around 105 to 110F during normal use, compared to 141 to 150F for my core 2 duo mac. At its peak the Vaio heats up to 130F while the Core 2 Duo at is lowest goes down to around 138F. So this flash video vs html 5 video is so silly.
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i have a cheapo lenovo with a core i5 i just got from work and flash 10.1 works just as well. no crashes, hardly any CPU usage, no stress on the battery

even iTunes works fast on it

this whole Flash issue is just an OS X thing. i was going to buy a Mac for myself but the Flash and games sucking on it is making me think twice
 
inlovewithi said:
I don't know what reason's Apple had for taking out the Floppy drive, but that doesn't make sense. They took out the floppy drive out I think in 1998. What benefits did that bring? Was is slowing down the computer? Why would any other company want to take out the floppy drive, much less be afraid to do so?

I would understand if perhaps on a laptop to save space, but most computers were desktop. It's like taking out the DVD/Blu ray drives out of regular desktop computers and staying with the space where the drive would have been. If that space would have been empty when I got my 1st computer it would have been a waste.
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mr.steevo said:
Hi,

I believe the reason was that floppies only held about 1.4 mb of information. In 1998 that was enough to hold documents, but not enough storage for one MP3. At the same time the Zip drive was making inroads with 100 mb of storage, but it was known for being effective at losing all your data if you dropped the disk. CD-R drives were still too expensive at that time but Apple knew they would be able to put them in the iMac within the year as costs went down. So, for documents small enough to fit on a floppy Apple figured the user could use the internet to transfer files, and for larger files there was the option to use an external Zip drive using USB 1.1.

I think Apple pulled the trigger too soon with the Floppy, but it all came out in the wash.

s.
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Steevo is correct. Apple saw the end of the floppy coming so instead of wasting the space on the iMacs, they decided to "light the fuse" and remove it to make space for the next technology. iMacs weren't meant to be altered (taking out CD and floppy drives) so they had to make a design that would last for years to come...
 
mr.steevo said:
Hi,

I believe the reason was that floppies only held about 1.4 mb of information. In 1998 that was enough to hold documents, but not enough storage for one MP3. At the same time the Zip drive was making inroads with 100 mb of storage, but it was known for being effective at losing all your data if you dropped the disk. CD-R drives were still too expensive at that time but Apple knew they would be able to put them in the iMac within the year as costs went down. So, for documents small enough to fit on a floppy Apple figured the user could use the internet to transfer files, and for larger files there was the option to use an external Zip drive using USB 1.1.

I think Apple pulled the trigger too soon with the Floppy, but it all came out in the wash.

s.
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Interesting. It does sound like they pulled the trigger too soon, because might as well wait until different alternatives were cheap enough. Also, for small files it was definitely more convenient to drag it into a floppy drive than actually burning a disk.

Did the price of the macs dropped after Apple took out the floppy drive?
 
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