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Huawei Closing in Fast on Apple in Smartphone Sales According to Latest Estimate
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An awful lot of Fandroids would disagree with that statement. Then there are those who hate Apple and so buy Android devices. Then there those who don't care about their privacy.
Then there those who will only buy say Samsung devices.
etc etc etc
To me, there is nothing fundametally wrong with Android other than it is controlled by the king of Adverts, Google.
But my iPhone works for me and does not really get in the way.
Could I get by with an Android device? Probably not. I use the TouchId feature a lot and some apps that I use are not available with the same featureset on Android and then there is the issue of security.
I read that years ago, don't know that was a true story or not, but lets assume it was........Microsoft is an American company and it had backdoors built in.
China is not a communist country, last time I asked you do look up what communist means, china is far from a communist country.
Huawei makes $150 to $350 unlocked models. If Apple came out with $150 to $300 iPhone models with big screens but low end features as those Android models. They would crush the low end Android market. They don't because they would also hurt sales of high end models.
I'd say the Google Nexus now the Pixel does have a catch for repeat customers. Fast OS updates for a few years to the latest Android and regular security patches. I think the Android OS they use is also a vanilla install. None of which you don't get with other Android phones.
If I bought Android. Those are likely the only ones I'd consider. As they cost as much as an iPhone. I can't see that happening. As the iPhone gives me nearly double the lifespan from an OS update standpoint.
I'd say the Google Nexus now the Pixel does have a catch for repeat customers. Fast OS updates for a few years to the latest Android and regular security patches. I think the Android OS they use is also a vanilla install. None of which you don't get with other Android phones.
If I bought Android. Those are likely the only ones I'd consider. As they cost as much as an iPhone. I can't see that happening. As the iPhone gives me nearly double the lifespan from an OS update standpoint.
India is too poor, *99% of the population can't afford one.(*Just a guesstimate based on what I saw)
Plenty of cheap 'non branded crap for poor people.
But can you facetime a windows pc, android phone? only saying
I suspect, the way things are going, that there is more and more 'nationalism' to peoples purchases. And as China ramps up domestic manufacturing with their own technologies and products I'd also bet more and more American companies will sell less and less there. And any signs of a trade war - well who knows. Add to this the Chinese crackdown on free speech or at least non-govt sanctioned communication and Apple isn't set to be a huge player over there. I'm not sure what 'American' business will see growth over there. And as for stability for Samsung, what effects will a military event in Korea have on them?
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"Shipped" means sold.
[doublepost=1501681619][/doublepost]I don't have any respect for Huawei. They just copied everyone else's products and accepted lower margins to gain marketshare. They even copied the MacBook. No, thanks. I'll buy the real thing.
That would say more about the preferences of you and your contacts, as the vast majority of Australians are using iMessage, Facebook messenger, Skype and sometimes FaceTime.
The Play Store is not available in China so that's not exactly relative to an article that's talking mostly about China
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...tore-for-china-is-coming-at-some-point-maybe/
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I've never used Facetime on my Macbook (don't have an iPhone or an iPad). Why? Because it's useless unless someone has an Apple device. Skype is cross platform, so is Google Duo (though I have never used Duo because I don't know anyone who uses it).
Huawei does provide a custom chip called Kirin. They also provide the EMUI skin, which does completely change the way Android functions in a number of areas. I know it is a skin, but a lot of work goes into it. We both know that introducing a new OS is not possible at this current moment. Developers are pretty entrenched in the App and Play Store. That being said, the design is forgettable by most standards and the UI is still a bit clunky.
Is that from the Department of Redundancy Department? I mean, the reports are titled "Global Smartphone Vendor Shipments" and "Global Smartphone Vendor Marketshare". With titles like that what were you expecting, profit numbers?
Holy Schnikes! This comment has enough condescension for the condescension to become sentient.
Apple is in India because it's middle class is huge and growing. Some estimates place India's middle class population higher than the entire individual population of every European country.
Plenty of branded, not so cheap "crap" included in there for people of all income levels. Samsung, LG, Sony, and others have phones included in that 150 million. Maybe ease up a bit on looking down on people and the products they choose. Just sayin'.
Similarly, when it is reported that Samsung "sold" 7.2 million S7s (Galaxy and Edge) in the first quarter, it does not mean they were all sold to end users. Most were sold to and received by retailers. And some quarters, large numbers of those go unsold to end-users until the next quarter.
Holy Schnikes! This comment has enough condescension for the condescension to become sentient.
Apple is in India because it's middle class is huge and growing. Some estimates place India's middle class population higher than the entire individual population of every European country.
Plenty of branded, not so cheap "crap" included in there for people of all income levels. Samsung, LG, Sony, and others have phones included in that 150 million. Maybe ease up a bit on looking down on people and the products they choose. Just sayin'.
I don't think I am way off with my guesstimate, but 99% was a bit much , I know there's a growing middle and high class but I also know the majority of Indian people are poor, that's a fact.
Yeah, cheap crap was too general, by non branded I meant cheap knock off phones, I have seen plenty in Asia, weird brand names.
Apple was never cheap enough to be competitive in developing economies. Rich people in China will continue to buy Apple, everyone else will go with cheaper alternatives, since they're almost as good at a fraction of the price.
Well, yes. Duh
"Shipped vs sold" is a misleading internet meme mostly found on Apple forums. People mistakenly think that "sold" means "sold to end users", for one thing.
It all got started with a really poorly thought out (or intentionally misleading) article about the first Apple-Samsung trial in California. In the trial, Samsung had to report the number of possibly infringing tablets. The number they gave was far lower than their reported sales, and some ignorant blogger saw that and made up the whole "shipped vs sold" meme.
What that writer ignored, was that 1) the trial number was only about possibly infringing tablets, which meant US only sales of certain tablets during a certain period, 2) he was comparing that to Samsung's reported worldwide sales, of which at that time US sales were only around 5%, IIRC.
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And let's not forget that every Siri search is performed by Microsoft (Bing) not Apple...I read that years ago, don't know that was a true story or not, but lets assume it was........Microsoft is an American company and it had backdoors built in.
The design part of it isn't really comparable, as Huawei uses stock designs from ARM like the Cortex A73, A53 within Kirin. Apple has designed their own unique ARMv8 based CPUs within the SoC.
Sold to whom? Apple reports channel inventory so it’s easier to figure out sell-through to end consumers. Do any of these companies do that?shipped = sold