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Huawei 'Open' to Selling 5G Chips to Apple
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Why would iPhones be banned in countries that sell Huawei phones? Huawei are very popular in Europe.
Uh, the largest mobile network operator in the UK has the Huawei P30 on its front page.
https://ee.co.uk/
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It's painfully obvious a lot of Americans lack a global perspective. They've convinced themselves a political ban resulting in less choice in their smartphone market is somehow an advantage for U.S. consumers. Without the opportunity to buy Huawei phones, they think the rest of the world is the same. North Korean citizens use the same mental techniques when they can't buy certain imported goods.
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You're stretching it a bit aren't you? In the 1960s he signed up to work for the PLA as a technologist. What were the other opportunities in the 1960s? Not much. He held no rank. He retired and then took his skills and did what with them? Oh I know, he worked in the same field and founded Huawei.
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The U.S. really has not built out a 5G infrastructure. I'm totally happy with LTE as long as it gets the speeds I am currently getting. The problem is that I run into a lot of slow areas. I thought we'd have seen femtocells take hold like wifi, but that didn't happen.
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Dude, you need to cool your jets or get out.
It appears that you are unaware that the markets in which iPhones are significantly dominant over alternatives in terms of market share include the higher-income tiers of American society, and that my satirical comment was obviously making specific reference to that fact.
Last time I looked there was NO religious freedom in China. Not for Muslims, not for Christians, not for any group that defies the power of the state. Fortunately we are smarter (well maybe not here on Macrumors...I guess only Chinese and Americans and the rest of the world with half a brain knows what I mean).
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/25/world/asia/china-christmas-church-crackdown.html
Yes:
https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/the-african-union-headquarters-hack-and-australias-5g-network/
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Soviet Tupolev TU-144 was based on stolen design from Concorde, and it flew BEFORE the Concorde.
All the nonsense about Huawei leading in the 5G is exposed by the news of the first commercial 5G system having been launched in South Korea WITHOUT Huawei infrastructure.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/kt-5g-being-launched-by-ericsson/
Last time I looked China has been intolerant to religions in general for many many decades, it's their law their tradition, it's a really well known fact. It's not like Christianity is tolerated too much in many Islamic countries although Christians in general don't use or agree with terminologies like: We have to conquer our own country and purify it of all infidels. Then, we should conquer the infidels' countries and spread Islam.
I've read an article about China letting the Xinjiang more free years ago and the first thing that happened: the Muslim inhabitants starter to radicalize.
Soviet Tupolev TU-144 was based on stolen design from Concorde, and it flew BEFORE the Concorde.
All the nonsense about Huawei leading in the 5G is exposed by the news of the first commercial 5G system having been launched in South Korea WITHOUT Huawei infrastructure.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/kt-5g-being-launched-by-ericsson/
Huawei 5G base stations weigh 40% less than comparable equipment from Ericsson and consume 30% less power. This means lower installation and deployment costs for operators. Your aircraft example is ridiculous as it was neither faster, better, nor a year ahead of the competition.
5G in South Korea is a PR stunt. According to Nikkei, 5G doesn't work outside telecom stores. Inside carrier stores, 5G was 193 Mbps. True 5G is supposed to be 2.7 Gbps. It may fool uninformed consumers, but won't fool industry watchers.
Nikkei: Fast but patchy: Trying South Korea's new 5G service
And Apple will end up with many Chinese customers who will be happy to buy an iPhone with a Huawei modem to replace you.
The knives are out for Huwawei. There was even a documentary on a few days ago one of our most popular TV channels in the UK titled ‘can we trust Huwawei?’ This brings all the controversy to the forefront of even the non tech orientated majority.
Yet ironically most FTTC users here in the UK are probably connected to Huawei FTTC cabs which have G.inp, vectoring and can operate a 3dB noise margin profile, unlike the ECI cabs (made in Israel) which still have yet to even get G.inp because of continuing software issues. So Huawei cabs are much better hardware wise, firmware wise and are even built better (ECI had to have warming pads put in as they were corroding connections due to damp getting in the overly large cooling vents). I'd rather have a Huawei cab any day and no its not spying on my weekly shopping.
The comments about "commies" and spying related to the anti Huawei propaganda makes me wonder what year I'm living in after all this is actually 2019 not the 1950's. Alas people believe their governments far to easily easily which is ironic considering they are the ones predominantly watching internet traffic (NSA, GCHQ etc.) and also the ones Apple is trying to keep your data safe from, it seems the case of the FBI breaking into iPhones is to easily forgotten.
Also many US members seem to have no idea that the Huawei Pro 20 opened up the UK market massively and is a widely popular phone in Europe. They have recently released the Pro 30, and both Huawei phones have a camera to put my iPhone XS to shame.
Ironically the Kirin 970 Arm LTE SoC found in the Huawei Pro 20 and Kirin 980 LTE SoC found in the new Huawei pro 30 are both manufactured by TSMC too. Damn, maybe TSMC are putting that commie spyware in Apples Arm chips too
https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/huawei-cracks-uk-market-thanks-to-p20
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/hisilicon/kirin/970
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/hisilicon/kirin/980
More to the point, I wonder what Apple's been smoking, if they accept it. Australia has chosen not to accept Huawei, so i wonder how that would work here. Would we just get 'killed off' because it's easier, or Apple sell a modified version just for us Aussies.
Either way, perhaps this "hot water" will start to ease up, and Apple will realize the only way to survive lawsuits is to make their own chips..
I’m not saying I agree with spying conspiracy. All I’m saying is that making such a mainstream documentary will put doubt into the minds of the average consumer.Yet ironically most FTTC users here in the UK are probably connected to Huawei FTTC cabs which have G.inp, vectoring and can operate a 3dB noise margin profile, unlike the ECI cabs (made in Israel) which still have yet to even get G.inp because of continuing software issues. So Huawei cabs are much better hardware wise, firmware wise and are even built better (ECI had to have warming pads put in as they were corroding connections due to damp getting in the overly large cooling vents). I'd rather have a Huawei cab any day and no its not spying on my weekly shopping.
The comments about "commies" and spying related to the anti Huawei propaganda makes me wonder what year I'm living in after all this is actually 2019 not the 1950's. Alas people believe their governments far to easily easily which is ironic considering they are the ones predominantly watching internet traffic (NSA, GCHQ etc.) and also the ones Apple is trying to keep your data safe from, it seems the case of the FBI breaking into iPhones is to easily forgotten.
Also many US members seem to have no idea that the Huawei Pro 20 opened up the UK market massively and is a widely popular phone in Europe. They have recently released the Pro 30, and both Huawei phones have a camera to put my iPhone XS to shame.
Ironically the Kirin 970 Arm LTE SoC found in the Huawei Pro 20 and Kirin 980 LTE SoC found in the new Huawei pro 30 are both manufactured by TSMC too. Damn, maybe TSMC are putting that commie spyware in Apples Arm chips too
https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/huawei-cracks-uk-market-thanks-to-p20
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/hisilicon/kirin/970
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/hisilicon/kirin/980
A lot of it is politics and trade wars and a fight for supremacy on the part of the US. I also don’t believe that Huwawei’s intentions are bad. Regardless of whether the Chinese government could force them to spy or not, it’s not their fault. They are just trying to run a business and they happen to be a Chinese company.
Have you ever been to Xinjiang? Do you have classmates or friends from there?
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So for cyber security reason, Some country use Qualcomm chip, China use Huawei. People who travel to different place buy another phone and do not worry about any thing.
They have plenty of options for customers. The Balong 5000 is also probably the most complete 5G modem on the market. The difference is they don't sell their modems to third parties.
We used to say the same things about Mac with Intel chip.. well it turned out going Intel was the best thing after all
.Or they could pay Qualcomm you know
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Designed by Apple in California. Listening in from China.
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Because their phones, which use this chip, are used to spy on Americans (and others) by the Chinese government.
Designed by Apple in California. Listening in from China.
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Because their phones, which use this chip, are used to spy on Americans (and others) by the Chinese government.
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That's actually not how it works. Samsung is allowed to sell their chips to any willing buyers, so long as they take license with Qualcomm first (ie, no license, no chip). Under their contract, Samsung is liable for any rogue customers walking away with Samsung's modems, but not without licenses.
Meizu is known to have used Samsung's Exynos AP for years -- but they eventually signed licensing agreement with Qualcomm.