Huawei 'Open' to Selling 5G Chips to Apple

[cmaier]

I think the Apple will be involved in the entire design to delivery process of the huawai 5g chip making process to ensure no shenanigans from this company.. otherwise no deal!

They’ll be involved in that process in the sense that the process will be “we are not buying those chips. Go away.”

 

[Williesleg]

Thanks Tim Apple.
Always thinking security.

 

[macfacts]

Right, we want your 5G chips with secret back-doors built-in.

Paranoid much?

 

[PKoz]

Certainly the Communist Police take them seriously: “Together with the Public Security Bureau, Huawei will unlock a new era of smart policing and help build a safer, smarter society"

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/wor...th-china-on-surveillance-raises-concerns-for/

But on the other hand seeing as Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou is an iPhone user maybe I'm wrong...

Do you know what the five eyes are? The United States gathers zero days and learns how to crack pretty much any US made device. They use these techniques to peer into the global network. It's more likely that they don't like Huawei because perhaps they can't easily crack it or Huawei refuses to give them access to networks running on their infrastructure.

Do you trust intel? Watch this and learn.

Why do you suppose that exists at all?

 

[tongxinshe]

Very good news for Apple if it’s really true. Finally Apple has a fallback option to not being pinned to a dead end. Lagging behind too much on the 5G racing would do BIG BIG harm to Apple.

 

[Brandhouse]

LOL at everyone railing against Huawei in the comments. You've all fallen for our government's misinformation campaign against them. Our allies are not so gullible, and have pushed back against our threats to cut off support and intelligence sharing if they buy from the company. Those allies asked a simple question: "Where's your proof?" They were met with crickets.

Exactly. Oooh, it's China it must be bad. Get over the politics and West vs Communism. It's foreseeable that Huawei might open up with more transparency and build in better security so that they might be able to play in a global market.

 

[SeaFox]

The Feds won't allow it, and even Apple will say no, because privacy.

Yes, the Feds hate competition in the spying space.

 

[mi7chy]

Apple having bent backwards to move user data to PLA servers will no doubt get a sweet deal on PLA owned Huawei 5G components

 

[PKoz]

Umm you don't think that the US politicians can be bribed? The Communist China lobbyists simply has to line their pockets with a few million $$$ and suddenly pro-China magic happens! LOL

US politicians get bribed all the time. They sell out all the time.

US politicians aren't that expensive. They can be bought for just tens of thousands of dollars.

 

[ChineseBots]

Cathy Meng's obsession toward Apple has reached a new level it seems.

 

[Solomani]

US politicians aren't that expensive. They can be bought for just tens of thousands of dollars.

So very true. Or sometimes, even a $600 hooker will suffice to buy the votes of US politicians.

The Chinese Communist Empire is going to win because they already know that American democracy can be bribed. 😛

The reason Huawei was never trusted by the US Government is from the fact that Huawei's founding members had ties to (and were retired officers of) the People's Liberation Army. Of course the Huawei corporate leadership is going to deny that they are loyal to the Chinese military-industrial complex, and will do everything to cover up such ties. I certainly would do the same thing if I were them.

 

[UltimaKilo]

How could it be "stolen tech" if most experts agree Huawei has a 1 year lead over Ericsson in 5G equipment? Who are they stealing it from, aliens?

Even back in 2015, Apple licensed nearly 800 patents from Huawei. This is not a new business relationship for Apple.

I think you misread. I did not specify it was their 5G tech.

 

[PKoz]

So very true. Or sometimes, even a $600 hooker will suffice to buy the votes of US politicians.

The Chinese Communist Empire is going to win because they already know that American democracy can be bribed. 😛

Look how Israel basically controls congress now. Almost everyone in Congress pledged allegiance to Israel.

See:

And no one is screaming about foreign meddling at all. Double standard.

 

[Strokee]

This will be great news for both company working together to kick Samsung and Qualcomm ass!

Oh, god not another one of these. Apple is a company, not your friend. These are all companies trying to make money off of you. Samsung and Qualcomm are not in competition with you...you don’t win anything if Apple sells more products

 

[Shirasaki]

Instead of selling chips to Apple directly, why not just selling chips to Chinese iPhone iPad only? Oh well. China is boycotting the entire world after all.
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I'm not a fan of Huawei but... why everybody is so hateful about Huawei just because US government doesn't like it? Is there any evidence of Huawei spying on their customers?

No public records at least. Not like Chinese would say something logical and meaningful anyway.

 

[wayoutwest5505]

My little Verizon box for connections to the internet has the chip. It's several years old.

 

[ReanimationLP]

What’s the difference between 5g and 5g LTE. If I remember LTE was not 4g and 4g was supposed to be faster than LTE (originally). LTE was just a stop gap? Or am I remembering wrong?

Edit: after some research, LTE and 4G LTE are both slower than 4G and are marketing terms to say it’s almost 4G but doesn’t meet the 4G standard minimum speed. So it’s weird they are marketing 5G-LTE so early, as if they are already giving up on making it to 5G speeds.

5G is called 5G sub6 NR for the below 6 GHz version and 5G mmWave for the 20+GHz versions.

Me thinks Macrumors bot had one too many drinks last night.

 

[tps3443]

So is Apple kinda like the ford of phones and tablets? American company?

 

[MadDawg2020]

Dear Apple,

I think I speak for every intelligent Apple user and insist you say NO!! To Huawei!
Giving China a free pipeline to data-mine our phones is NOT worth jumping on to a new network that is still YEARS away from functioning across the country!

 

[dazz87]

I don't see the US government allowing this.

Yup the government going to allow someone else to spy on us......

 

[MadDawg2020]

I’d sooner go back to my old rotary phone before I ever purchase a device containing a sliver of silicone that has passed through Huawei!
[doublepost=1554781849][/doublepost]I would sooner trust Facebook, Google, and Experian with all my credit cards, CVN codes, social Security and bank pins before I ever touch a device using a Huawei

 

[sarge]

Why does this feel like a Sponsored Post meant to test sentiment?

 

[falainber]

Dear Apple,

I think I speak for every intelligent Apple user and insist you say NO!! To Huawei!
Giving China a free pipeline to data-mine our phones is NOT worth jumping on to a new network that is still YEARS away from functioning across the country!

So, do Americans like you really think that Chinese government wants to spy on you? That would be really funny if it was not sad.

 

[Jimmy James]

Hoo-ah-way can keep them.

 

[lixuelai]

This is actually a really good offer for both Apple and Huawei when looking at it rationally, assuming if it is true of course.

Apple currently has patent disputes with both Samsung and Qualcomm (none with Huawei). If Intel fails to deliver, the only option left would be MediaTek and Huawei, Huawei being the much stronger and mature product. Furthermore, modem is not something that is really visible to the end user and will have no impact on Apple trying to develop modems in house, so the supplier really does not matter if the functionality is there. The only downside is security concerns, Apple may well sell multiple versions of their phone with different modems for different markets.

Huawei gains some quick cash, and it also improves their reputation. If their modems are used by Apple, Apple would surely have conducted a through security analysis.

While Apple and Huawei are certainly competitors, their overlap is relatively small. Both Apple and Huawei's biggest competitor in Europe and India is Samsung. In the U.S. there is zero overlap. In China both Apple and Huawei compete against a slew of other Chinese manufacturers.