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It is not worth $2,600 US. In Canada it will be around $3,600 CDN. This is ridiculous pricing. I looks like Huawei couldn't copy Apple because they're not selling a folding phone and most likely asked the AI on its Mate Pro how much to sell it for.

Get yourself an iPad mini for $500 and you pretty-much have the same thing.
 
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This is the real Android world, competition straight up! Even before customers get new tech in hands two competitors out with their solutions. The price war will start and I am sure these insane price tags would eventually wade off with scale of production. At $2000-$2600 no big sale push can happen and the tech would die like Google Glass or Mac Pro without major adoptions.
 
I’m using “defect” in the sense that the screen has a small area of surface with a clearly higher flatness tolerance than the majority of the screen and therefore there are some very noticeable out of plane areas.

While this may not be the truest definition of the word (which I know you’re poking at here), the context should be clear to any reasonable person.

Keep playing your little semantics game though...
You continue to say I'm playing semantic games when I clearly said:


Since this was clearly pointed out to you in post 314 I can only assume you nothing left but this pathetic attempt at grasping for straws.
 
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I wonder why it’s designed for left-handed use. I mean, it’s cool that left-handers are getting some love ... but isn’t about 90% of the world right-handed (whether nature or learned)?

It can probably be flipped so that the grip could be held with the left hand, and people can use their right hand to navigate ... but that would put the USB-C connector at the top of the device. The position of the connector reflects it was solidly designed to be held in the right hand, using the left hand to interact with the OS.

Ultimately it’s a nice design, just wondering why left-handed.
 
So basically they are building more modern versions of 1990's folding phones only bigger. Ugly AF.
 
The old "I read an interview long ago (I have no idea where)" defense. An ambiguous statement from an unnamed source a long time ago (the iPhone X is what...18 months old, how long ago could it have been?) which no one can conclusively dispute because there's nothing concrete to address. In addition that has to be one naïve designer if he thought that this signature element couldn't be replicated on other devices. It's not like Apple holds a patent on notches...do they?

You can believe me or not. Don’t really care. No I don’t remember the details of everything from 18 months ago. Have better things to retain.

For all I know they do have a patent.

I can tell you’re someone who likes to take a contrary point on anything and everything and try to make an argument. Have fun. ;)
 
There are better ways to identify device sides than cutting off a part of a screen.
They didn’t cut off part of the screen. They added two tabs of screen up in a piece of the device where there would otherwise be bezel. It’s bonus screen.
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At this point, where my iPhones are always shattered and scratched (with exception to the iPhone 4) I'm ready to try a softer display. Maybe it won't shatter as easily as iPhones.

Regardless, I'm excited to see these companies push mobile devices forward. This is healthy for consumers!

In my family we’ve owned at least one of each generation iPhone back to the original. Sometimes two (my wife doesnt upgrade every year). Never shattered a screen other than once, when my wife literally ran over hers in a car.

But every year for the last several years I’ve gotten scratches.

So I prefer harder screens.
 
I saw that in the video too.... It however doesn't seem to affect when you're looking at it only when the light from above highlights it.

To me it looks like you see it unless you are lighting it from straight on. I guess we’ll find out when these things circulate.
 
I predict foldable phones will have a shorter lifespan than curved tv

Not me. Curved TVs are a gimmick. This has real, practical considerations for day to day usage. We're still a long way from the futuristic concept of screens projected onto air, and so in the meantime, anything clever that increases space without increasing size and mass has serious potential.
 
They didn’t cut off part of the screen. They added two tabs of screen up in a piece of the device where there would otherwise be bezel. It’s bonus screen.

If you don't work in sales and marketing, you should. You really, really should.
 
Not me. Curved TVs are a gimmick. This has real, practical considerations for day to day usage. We're still a long way from the futuristic concept of screens projected onto air, and so in the meantime, anything clever that increases space without increasing size and mass has serious potential.

I was with you until the end there. Foldable phones definitely increase size and mass.
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If you don't work in sales and marketing, you should. You really, really should.
I’m a glass half full kind of guy. Makes my time here on this rock go by a little happier.
 
It is not worth $2,600 US. In Canada it will be around $3,600 CDN. This is ridiculous pricing. I looks like Huawei couldn't copy Apple because they're not selling a folding phone and most likely asked the AI on its Mate Pro how much to sell it for.

Get yourself an iPad mini for $500 and you pretty-much have the same thing.
I would happily pay $2600 if it were not made by Huawei.
 
I was with you until the end there. Foldable phones definitely increase size and mass.

I should have said "significantly" to make the point more clearly. My bad there. I didn't mean it in an absolute sense.
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I’m a glass half full kind of guy. Makes my time here on this rock go by a little happier.
Amen to that!
 
These smartphone vendors have gone off the deep end.
There is no chance in hell that I would pay $2600 for a "cell phone".
Do they realize that most people don't pay that much for a desktop or laptop computer which has significantly more usefulness than a pocket device? I think they are doing drugs in their marketing and development groups.[/QUOTE]
 
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Well, they are using their advantages in OLED research. Interesting. I am very interested in knowing how the behave after 400 folds and unfolds. Like less than a year. Also, what those screens look like, particularly at the fold. I don't mind the high prices on the first round, and in principle it makes sense: there's twice the real estate, or more, than in an OLED phone.
 
At this point, where my iPhones are always shattered and scratched (with exception to the iPhone 4) I'm ready to try a softer display. Maybe it won't shatter as easily as iPhones.

Regardless, I'm excited to see these companies push mobile devices forward. This is healthy for consumers!

Even with improvements in coatings technologies, a plastic screen cover is going to suffer the same fate that plastic screened devices from the past had. I remember my Compaq iPaq from back in the day and it’s screen lasted about a year before it was scratched to the point of not being usable.

And beyond the scratches, the hinge area where th plastic flexes at its maximum, it will begin to loose opacity as it ages.
 
Even with improvements in coatings technologies, a plastic screen cover is going to suffer the same fate that plastic screened devices from the past had. I remember my Compaq iPaq from back in the day and it’s screen lasted about a year before it was scratched to the point of not being usable.

And beyond the scratches, the hinge area where th plastic flexes at its maximum, it will begin to loose opacity as it ages.

I loved my iPaq. Remember the sleds? But, yeah, my Treo’s And Qualcomm palm phones and iPaqs were scratch magnets. And less pleasant to touch than glass.
 
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I already told you that those aren't examples of defending the device. You then responded with "Yes they are". To which I responded with “Nuh uh”. Do you know why I responded with nuh uh and nanny, nanny, boo boo? Because I would restate they're not examples and you would (and did) respond with yes they are. And here were are with no they aren't, yes they are, no they aren't, yes they are. The nuh uh and nanny, nanny, boo boo were just foreshadowing of the childish argument that was to come. Yet here we are.
Merely contradicting me—whether saying “nuh uh” or “those aren’t examples”—is not a cogent counter argument. But I understand how difficult it would be for you to try to mount an effective rebuttal. And btw you didn’t foreshadow your childish argument so much as hit us over the head with it.

Feel free to address one or all of my four examples of you defending various features of this phone that posters took issue with, which for some reason you jump to defend. Or, you can take a shot at a fifth:

@mattster16: You can literally see the defect in the device with your own eyes in the video.

You: “Seeing a "crease" is not the same thing as being defective.”

Me: I disagree completely. Defective: flawed, imperfect, shoddy... seems like a dead-on characterization to me.

Why are you trying so hard to defend this phone, while simultaneously trying to convince me you’re not?
 
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