Oh, I get the point, I just don't Know if people, android people will pay 2k or more a pop..we'lll seeYou're missing the point! A lot of people don't want "two separate units"! Many people would prefer a jack of all trades, even if it's master of none, for the convenience.
Apple will laugh last.Can you please detail your experience using this technology? TIA
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Don't forget a fresh round of emoticons.
And theres producing 1 million units and SELLING 1 million units. At 2k a pop?
Interesting horse race here!
Mind boggling. This is as basic as business math gets, and yet you refuse to accept it. Amazing.
Just for everyone else out here, this is pretty straightforward:
1) Global smartphone sales approach 1.5 billion units annually.
2) We are talking about 2 of the top 3 global smartphone manufacturers which together comprise just over a third of all smartphone sales.
3) Via simple multiplication, that's 500 million units, give or take. (We don't need exact precision here.)
4) These are new flagship devices that are hyped and will get crazy amounts of marketing dollars.
5) Product decisions are based on projected demand, which emerges as a result of a lot of very expensive market research. Big companies don't make such decisions lightly, given the R&D and marketing costs.
6) DNichter finds the "million" threshold absurd, and yet for them not to sell 1MM units, you'd have to believe that these foldables would be less than one fifth of one percent of unit sales.
You don't need an MBA or a consulting background for this one. Not that I mind having both.
I have no idea..so you're saying Samsung, will sell at least a million? I heard it here first!1MM is just what Samsung is producing for initial inventory. But unlike the I, Robot Will Smith movie, manufacturers don't make stuff to have it sit in a warehouse permanently or to tear it down. And they'll build more with design changes next year too, and those will almost certainly still have some sort of crease or wrinkle (because of the physics and materials constraint).
So yeah, I feel really, really comfortable saying that there will be a 7-figure (or more) unit sales numbers for those "flawed compromise" foldables from Samsung and Huawei. Big manufacturers don't go to all this trouble and expense to ship 500K units.
Smart move by Apple not to release anything like this. Too many compromises, terrible materials, no real value to consumers, and a bad experience overall.
Yes, smart move not previewing foldable phone prototype, of which I'm sure Apple has plenty. I'd argue the technology isn't there just yet, but once it fits into Ive's skinny-category and has some (yet to be discovered) advantages you bet Apple will be ready.
I have no idea..so you're saying Samsung, will sell at least a million? I heard it here first!
What's amazing is that you equate low/mid market sales numbers, that Samsung/Huawei dominate, to $2,000+ phones, which is uncharted territory. It's just math right, put out some junk products and millions will buy regardless of the price. Good thing you aren't a CEO.
In creased foldables? Yeah. Definitely not first here though.
Actually, I am. Gee, you're wrong again. Color me shocked.
For what company?
Trying to get this damn crease out of my new foldable! ANDROID-4-LYFE!John, the board meeting started 10 mins ago... What in the world are you doing in there?
You have got to be kidding me.
That would be about as insane as posting my picture and location on my profile.
Here comes the "you can say anything on the internet!" response.![]()
Winning the internetsJohn, the board meeting started 10 mins ago... What in the world are you doing in there?
Nope, I figured as much. I am sure your company is thriving though with the mentality that you can equate sales of $300-$500 phones with that of $2,000+ phones. It's just that simple.
He did indeed. Although in fairness, I didn't bring up the run-my-own-company thing. DN did as some sort of lame attempted insult. It just happened to backfire spectacularly.Winning the internets
It is indeed.
Tell you what, son. Put a reminder on your calendar for 1 year from today to come back to this thread. I've been doing forecasting a long time, and I'm really good at it. So let's go ahead and look at the data then. Sound like a plan?
Have at it, kiddo.
Your example doesn't really correlate. The XS Max doesn't have any obvious compromises like a crease down the middle of the screen. If this device wasn't full of compromises, I wouldn't necessarily balk at the price. Sure though, for examples sake - anyone would be better off buying a low end Android phone and tablet than spending money on one of these foldables.
Ehhhh...wrong
Horrendous notch...hideous camera bump