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I still remember when the first Philips Flst screen TV came out at 32” and was priced at $16k. Give this stuff time and it will become way more affordable. Glad Samsung and H have the courage to do this. It’s sad that I think Apple is just going to watch and then copy and make some tweaks once they feel they can mass market it themselves. But who knows if Apple will even go this direction. I’m wondering one day if we will see something called the “Apple Scroll” that just pulls down the screen like blinds in your house
 
Samsung had it right -- fold the display in, not out. That way, it doesn't get scuffed and scratched.

You couldn't pay me enough to use Huawei products. They're backed by and have close ties to the Chinese Communist Party and government, and its shady business practices have been widely reported.
 
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At first I thought this was a prototype for iOS on a foldable device... then I realized it was actually Android... Why Apple became okay with this over the years is mind boggling.
 
Samsung had it right -- fold the display in, not out. That way, it doesn't get scuffed and scratched.

You couldn't pay me enough to use Huawei products. They're backed by and have close ties to the Chinese Communist Party and government, and its shady business practices have been widely reported.

That only works for samsung because they have yet another screen on the outside. Otherwise you’d have to flip the phone open constantly to do anything. Not an ideal solution. The best solution is fold so the screen is outward, but somehow make it not easily scratchable (either by some miracle of materials science or some other technique I can’t conceive of).
 
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That only works for samsung because they have yet another screen on the outside. Otherwise you’d have to flip the phone open constantly to do anything. Not an ideal solution. The best solution is fold so the screen is outward, but somehow make it not easily scratchable (either by some miracle of materials science or some other technique I can’t conceive of).

Folding outward is impractical for phones. You can't even put a case on it, and people buy cases for other reasons than protecting the screen. Outward folding like this sounds and looks cool, but it's flawed in practice.
 
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But the tablet HAS replaced tv and computer for many people. Even I watch a lot of tv on my iPad instead of firing up the projector or flat screen. We are considering cancelling dish and just going with our Apple TV because we so rarely use the TV nowadays. And my computer is now used only for work or for coding for my iPhone or iPad.

There’s no reason why a good foldable can’t similarly succeed by doing the job of an iPhone plus an iPad.
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Apple Watch was after iPad. AirPods were after iPad. Both have been hugely successful.

but have you completely thrown away your flat screen/projector and computer?
 
Folding outward is impractical for phones. You can't even put a case on it, and people buy cases for other reasons than protecting the screen. Outward folding like this sounds and looks cool, but it's flawed in practice.

Ive never used a case for any of my phones, including any of the zillion iPhones i’ve Owned, so i guess we have different understandings of what is “practical.”
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Tim Cook is stamping angrily on his desk: "Our next phone will be THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS!"
Ha ha I get it. Because Apple is expensive. Good one.
 
Nor did Apple fans see the need for a screen larger than 3.5", then 4.0", and now...

The point is to introduce new technology and get it out in the real world so manufacturers can gain experience with it. See what works, what doesn't, what to tweak, what to leave alone.

Very true. I’ll be interested to see where it goes but I feel like the practicality of this won’t be great no matter how far it progresses. But I’ll happily be proven wrong.
 
Value? For that kind of money you could have two separate units that do a better job.
Not in my pocket. I have Macs, iPads, iPhones Apple watches, different use cases. You could buy a high quality camera, then you don’t need your iPhone camera. But I bet your iPhone camera is easier to carry and takes good enough pictures.
 
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I think that Huewei's definitely showcasing some impressive devices and innovation these days, but cannot get past the current behaviour of the company.

I'm not going to jump on the "SPYING ON US!!" rhetoric as we haven't actually seen the evidence of such. However, Huewei's corporate behaviour, violation of international law, and then how it's behaved Towards Canada and it's officials? Yeah, they can bugger out of my country.


Canada has been taking bids for building the 5g network. After Canada arrested the CEO on behalf of the USA, Huewei and china threatened Canada directly.
https://www.theguardian.com/technol...th-grave-consequences-if-huawei-cfo-not-freed

I fully support and endorse a full boycott of Huwei while they are going to use China's political might to try and threaten smaller countries to let them in.
Absolutely. I would absolutely not mind using a Samsung S10, LGV50, Pixel 3 XL, or OnePlus7 as Android alternatives to an iPhone if that time came where I no longer found value in using my iPhone, but I absolutely will not support Huawei. Impressive as their hacked hardware is. It's hard for me to believe that Huawei is honestly innovative. I can't help but think a company with their corporate behavior has an engineering team that isn't using ripped off R&D from someone else.
 
At first I thought this was a prototype for iOS on a foldable device... then I realized it was actually Android... Why Apple became okay with this over the years is mind boggling.

I have their Huawei Mate 20 Pro, gorgeous mobile except for the fact it's Software overlay sucks, it mimics exactly like iOS....no app drawer, custom launchers etc..that icons filled characterless home screen everyone dislikes
 
Oh noooo, ugly ugly crease

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I noticed this in the Samsung as well. This is likely unavoidable since we are now dealing with a flexible thins sheet here and no longer hard glass. Plus, I would think it will get looser and more lumpy over time. (that sounds bad, sorry) Might be the undoing of this technology before it even gets started. Imagine spending that much money on a premium device that screen looks cheap and lumpy.. Maybe Apple can do this justice but I am skeptical.
 
I noticed this in the Samsung as well. This is likely unavoidable since we are now dealing with a flexible thins sheet here and no longer hard glass. Plus, I would think it will get looser and more lumpy over time. (that sounds bad, sorry) Might be the undoing of this technology before it even gets started. Imagine spending that much money on a premium device that screen looks cheap and lumpy.. Maybe Apple can do this justice but I am skeptical.
Seems like it could be avoided with springs that provide tension and stretch the cover out when the screen is open, though the cover “glass” would have to float over the screen.
 
It's interesting to see that many feel that this is the direction we are headed in the future, larger screened phones. Obviously it's just my opinion, but I see Apple pivoting to smaller phones and focusing more on wearables. The combination of an iPhone in your pocket, an Apple Watch on your wrist, AirPods in your ears, and potential AR glasses on your head could be where they see value/computers in the future (at least from a mobile scenario). Minimal, but meaningful interaction, could be where we need to go as a society. I am not sure staring at larger screens is really the proper direction. It's good that Apple has been experimenting with AR and starting to connect the dots to a potential solution. A ton has to work for the hardware and software to be ready for consumers, but I think that is more so where we are headed.
 
I noticed this in the Samsung as well. This is likely unavoidable since we are now dealing with a flexible thins sheet here and no longer hard glass. Plus, I would think it will get looser and more lumpy over time. (that sounds bad, sorry) Might be the undoing of this technology before it even gets started. Imagine spending that much money on a premium device that screen looks cheap and lumpy.. Maybe Apple can do this justice but I am skeptical.

If you ask the journalists who actually held and used the Mate X for a bit, this shouldn't be a problem.

"As to the all-important question of whether I can see or feel the spine in the middle of the screen where the fold happens, the answer is “no.” My time with the Mate X hasn’t yet been long enough to make that a categorical statement, but this is definitely the flattest foldable I’ve yet come across."

https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/25/18239565/huawei-mate-x-foldable-phone-hands-on-design-mwc-2019
 
Someone has to push the industry forward. I'm glad Samsung and Huawei are releasing these phones, even at those prices. Eventually, this tech will be more affordable and that's when we'll start seeing innovative uses for it. Plus, it gives Apple the push it needs to release their spin on it.


True, but let’s be real, Apple’s spin on this (whatever it will be) began years ago I’m sure. Not post Samsung/Huawei press conferences.
 
From a head-on viewing angle it is probably noticeable maybe to a negligent amount. It’s only the camera viewing it from an angle and with direct overhead light do we see emphasis on “The Crease”
It was pretty negligent to put a gigantic fold in the center of a plastic screen, but I think you mean negligible.

No, the refraction issue is not negligible. It's very clear on screen and will be worse in person.
 
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At first I thought this was a prototype for iOS on a foldable device... then I realized it was actually Android... Why Apple became okay with this over the years is mind boggling.
It’s because the Chinese OEMs stayed in China but now they are venturing out.
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True, but let’s be real, Apple’s spin on this (whatever it will be) began years ago I’m sure. Not post Samsung/Huawei press conferences.
I’m sure they’ve thought about it and have plans to do their own foldable display but it’s probably not as advanced as these devices yet. When the technology has matured Apple will reveal it to the world.
 
The idea is good. Imagine DeX, Windows Continum or something like that with it. You could have a decent size software keyboard with touchpad for a full desktop experience. Then when you on the go use phone or tablet mode. I think there is an appeal to this but the one thing right now is experiences.

The software for this will come in the near future as they become a standard-ish form factor. It’s expensive right now, but if it comes down in price to around $1499 and could potential combine adequalty phone, tablet and portable pc, I think it could be a good device to consider.

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The one problem is Huawei tho...
 
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