MP is kind of irrelevant after you hit about 8 if your only going to view your images on an iPhone or iPad screen.
Dynamic range is what you want and higher (usable) ISO.
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Huawei's Dual-Camera P9 Hints at What Apple Might Have in Store for iPhone 7 Plus
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Dynamic range is what you want and higher (usable) ISO.
The upcoming iPhone 7 Plus is rumored to feature a dual-lens rear camera. While we've gotten some hints of what Apple might look to do with the technology given its acquisition of LinX Imaging last year, we're still not entirely clear on Apple's plans and so we can look to other vendors to get a taste of what we might expect.
The Huawei P9 is the latest flagship from the Chinese company, and on the rear of the device Huawei in partnership with Leica implemented two 12-megapixel cameras. These function by taking a photo from both cameras simultaneously and combining them in software. One camera captures a normal color image, while the second takes a monochrome image that allows for more focus on the lighting of a scene. The advantage, Huawei claims, is a better overall image with higher clarity and professional camera-like quality.
In this video featured on the MacRumors YouTube channel, we go hands-on to test how Huawei's dual-camera works, and to see whether this setup is worth the complexity and expense of implementing it. If you'd like to check out the full-resolution photos from the P9 compared to similar ones shot on an iPhone 6s, we've also shared galleries from both devices.Subscribe to the MacRumors YouTube channel for more videos.
Huawei is not the first to use a dual-camera setup, and other vendors have used somewhat different combinations of cameras to achieve varying goals. The LG G5 uses two cameras to achieve different focal lengths, while the 2014 HTC One M8 used two cameras to allow for better depth perception.
We still have roughly two months before the expected announcement of the rumored iPhone 7, and we have yet to hear how Apple plans to use this system, but other rumored features include a slightly thinner build, faster Apple A10 processor, repositioned antenna bands, and the removal of the headphone jack.
Article Link: Huawei's Dual-Camera P9 Hints at What Apple Might Have in Store for iPhone 7 Plus
I'd much rather have two different focal lengths. Wide angle doesn't always cut it.
I see that you must've think very highly of yourself to use your own opinion as fact.
Though seeing your past comments, you seems to be a super negative person. FACT!
Except laying flat on a table.
Funny how even Huawei seem to be able to make the lenses flush and a classy looking design. At least the Chinese guys are trying even if the Americans (and a particular Brit) have given up.
They most certainly were!
http://www.techrez.com/huawei-used-fake-image-promote-p9-apologize/
I bet someone got the sack for that!
Why do you try to turn nearly every thread you reply on the first page into a political discussion about corporate excess or labor compensation / management? It's really annoying and seems like an attempt to take conversation off-topic into a controversial/political discussion, especially when you make the font GIANT.
Forget the camera, I was more interested in Matt's shirt. It looks like it would be a perfect outfit for motion capture.
If they use a dual camera for better light and noise reduction, that alone would be good. Add in some zoom capability and that would be great. I am not going to get the super size iPhone so it looks like I will not get the dual camera based on current rumors, so I hope the other camera gets some love too.
The Engadget review showed some interesting camera tricks involving depth-of-field. While concluding you probably don't want to buy the P9.
Macrumors staff have this weird fetish with calling any camera improvement on the iPhone "DSLR" quality. I know they didn't here, but it's a traditional thing they like doing in most articles like this
which leads me to believe that they haven't a ****ing clue what they're talking about and are purely trying to play a "spin" game.
I have a 10 year old DSLR thats lower resolution than the iPhone and still produces better quality photos than basically any camera on the phone.
its not a failing of Apple, or any smartphone camera. it's a limitation of physics.
But whatever helps sell Apple phones for APple right macrumors?
I'm not trying to turn any thread into a political discussion, I didn't even refer to labor compensation and management in this one. I do however see Apple products as a whole, from corporate idea and production to final product in packaging and delivery and in use by the customer. iPhones are more than just an object with no backstory. iPhone comes to be because of many processes along the way.
It's my own personal view that I express here about how I see the device and it's current iteration in terms of design, price, experience and everything else that comes to mind. There's no attempt to move the discussion in any direction, others have their own view and put it forward. Sometimes we see eye to eye, sometimes we don't across all forums and posts. It's luck that I make it to the first page because other times my comments are buried in the middle set of pages, other times I don't even comment. Sometimes my comments praise Apple, sometimes they are typed in great disappointment. Some forum users can not handle criticisms of Apple, but I believe honest appraisals are important and I'll state it how I see it in language that I hope is thoughtful and constructive.
Regarding the font size, I truely find the default font size too small to read, that's why I use the larger font. I also use the text to speech feature (⌘ + Esc) to read back my posts when spell and grammar checking them if you care to know. Now that's a neat technology in iOS/MacOS.
Bring on this tech. Knowing Apple, if this turns out to be an accurate rumor, they will have perfected the dual-lens camera implementation and will be a tremendous upgrade in the iP7+.
I think "tricks" is a great way to describe it.
Seriously... does this really look good? Fake depth of field?
I'd rather the dual-cameras take the same exact photos and then use the CPU to blend both photos to reduce noise for better low-light photos.
Here's the general idea behind it: Median Stacking:
http://petapixel.com/2013/05/29/a-look-at-reducing-noise-in-photographs-using-median-blending/
So is this an actual Leica sensor/lens, or is it like that other recent phone that had Leica stamped on it but neither the sensor or lenses from Leica?
Oh wait, my bad. This IS the same phone that reviewers already tested and found the camera to be only above average. And there's no Leica in this phone except for the rubber-stamped approval by Leica (in exchange for $$$ no doubt).
As a longtime serious photographer who loves Leica and Zeiss I feel ashamed they are lending their names to companies for money.
As for Apple, they'll have a huge advantage over everyone else. The A9 processor, which has the highest data transfer rate from a sensor to CPU (and the only one in the world that can capture 1080P at 120 FPS), already puts them above competitors. The A10 will likely improve on this further. Dual sensors aren't any good if they share the same limited bandwidth to the processor, slowing down the picture/video taking experience.
The other advantage (which is also an Apple exclusive) is NVMe (PCI Express) storage. If you're generating twice the data then you're going to need to quickly get that data stored.
I think this will give Apple far more options when it comes to different ways to utilize those dual sensors (that is, IF they're coming out).
Oh wait, my bad. This IS the same phone that reviewers already tested and found the camera to be only above average. And there's no Leica in this phone except for the rubber-stamped approval by Leica (in exchange for $$$ no doubt).
As a longtime serious photographer who loves Leica and Zeiss I feel ashamed they are lending their names to companies for money.
As for Apple, they'll have a huge advantage over everyone else. The A9 processor, which has the highest data transfer rate from a sensor to CPU (and the only one in the world that can capture 1080P at 120 FPS), already puts them above competitors. The A10 will likely improve on this further. Dual sensors aren't any good if they share the same limited bandwidth to the processor, slowing down the picture/video taking experience.
The other advantage (which is also an Apple exclusive) is NVMe (PCI Express) storage. If you're generating twice the data then you're going to need to quickly get that data stored.
I think this will give Apple far more options when it comes to different ways to utilize those dual sensors (that is, IF they're coming out).
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I think "tricks" is a great way to describe it.
Seriously... does this really look good? Fake depth of field?
I'd rather the dual-cameras take the same exact photos and then use the CPU to blend both photos to reduce noise for better low-light photos.
Here's the general idea behind it: Median Stacking:
http://petapixel.com/2013/05/29/a-look-at-reducing-noise-in-photographs-using-median-blending/
Yeah, decided not to cover that in this post because it has little to do with the cameras. This is done on many Android phones these days. It just looks straight up fake.
The lens assemblies of the P9 cameras are by Leica. The sensor modules are Sony's IMX286.
If you live in the US, or any predominantly English speaking country, I would not buy this phone. It is made for the Chinese market and is riddled with options that are in Chinese making a lot of the phone hard to use if you don't know the language. Great hardware though!
That is one nice optic!
This reminds me of a picture I saw in one of the astronomy magazines some years ago. They built a automated system to look for meteors ( I believe) that had four SLR lenses arranged in a square. I think they where Cannon but what ever it was impressive at the time.